General Chat

Liz, that is sooo funny.I love the description of your oh looking like an elephant's bum on a pea!!!

McAnne, I am really glad that you noticed and said something about that 'other thread' , which seemed to make us all out as moaners.If only we were....

Yes, Ann (in glos), I did enjoy the holiday to a certain degree, but the thought of my daughter Andrea in such pain and discomfort, but still wishing us a "wonderful holiday", and asking us to eat some of the wonderful pasta and fish dishes they make in Italy, really choked me.She and her hubby were there yonks ago, long, long before her horrific disease reared it's ugly head, and before everything became so expensive, of course.The scenery was abolutely mind-blowing, the insects too, i.e great big black bees, hummingbird moths, cicadas, not to even mention all the enormous bouganvillea, oleander,cypreses,olive trees,fig trees etc. were a balm to the eye.You just needed VERY deep pockets to take part in all the water sports, if you are so inclined, because you couldn't get near the lakes,all around the edges were big,private houses and or hotels. Still, the weather was gorgeous, very hot and sunny.

Have been going on and on about the holiday, just to show that I DO notice lovely things, but with a very heavy heart.

Love to all.

Eileen xx

Eileen, your daughter wanted you to enjoy it because she had enjoyed it when she went. she was living it again through you and that gave her pleasure. I am so pleased that you managed to take in the scenery and of course you couldn't forget your daughter's pain. We always want to take on the pain for our children because we are their Mums. Where in italy did you go?

Ann
Glos

Thank you for your kind words Ann.We rented an appartment up on a hill,looking out over Lake Como.
It wasn't as expensive as it sounds, we divided the costs between us.
Yes, you are right,my daughter certainly wanted me to see Italy through her eyes, when she could walk and move, and also pain-free, God love her!

Am waiting for my old (English) school friend to lay her word,(internet Scrabble) then I will start walloping some innocent hay.

Eileen xx

Dad is still on oxygen all the time. Not any change in him.

Gail we are here whenever you are ready to talk. xxx

Marcia thank you for your encouragement. No one can see anyone's tears on here so I think it makes it a little easier to open up xx

Mc Ann in Kent, You are welcome anytime. Others too may find one day they need to have a little understanding, I hope they find it.

Liz I'd love to see your oh on his bike! Has he sent his license in now?

Eileen your hoilday sounds lovely. I agree with Ann about your daughter wanting you to see what she saw and enjoy it. Don't feel guilty feel happy that you could share it.

Rach (((hugs))) back to you

Deanna ~~~~~x

Elaine how are you and your husband?

Angela thinking of you x

Carolina how you all doing?

Paula x

Caz how are you? Hope this cloud of yours soon lifts
xx

Snow white what is happening with your mum ? x

Betty xx

Ben great that you got the job. Well done. Hope you enjoy it. How is it going? Concentrate on the job and not the routines in your head you'll do okay xx

Jules hope your camping weekend was good fun xx

Joyce thinking of you xx

Anyone had any sound of Dave ?

Sue hope you are okay if you still look in.xx

Caz C how's it going at your house? x

Gill thinking of you xx

Irene how are you ? x

Mary my goodness, how are you coping without a computer at home? I would be banging my head up the wall by now lol xxxx Love to you and all the family

Bed time, work tomorrow ;- ((

Didn't get to see my friend, I realised I was too wooly headed to drive safely so had to ring and explain and I will visit her at her Dad's later in the week if she definitely goes back there after today's radiotherapy. When the cfs slows me up more than usual, I won't risk driving in case I lose concentration and have an accident. Last thing I need is to hurt myself or anyone else and be unable to get around. I think I have been overdoing things lately.
Betty, I have to go and have scan, urologist will arrange it for me, just to check out bladder and kidneys, he said he thought I might have had a crystal of calcium, a stone starting that I managed to flush though but he wants to check and be sure.

O.h. said it took longer to get home than to get to work but wasn't too bad, he had a soak in the bath and dinner and went to bed before 10pm so will be up soon, 4.40am and ready for the off lol
He hasn't sent the licence back yet but doesn't really matter as it is cancelled now anyway so he can't use it.
Have put a thread up for MaxiMary, her granddaughter MiniMary has shingles, poor child so is feeling very poorly.
love and hugs
Lizxxx

Egyptian Goddess is entitled to an opinion.

BUT, she has put me off posting for a while.

We are all aware what does happen in this world and the unfairness of it all.

We are also fighting our own demons, and her attitude does not help anyone.

Was going to try let loose, now feel unable to do so. I came on this thread for understanding, which most of us have. But, to be judged in this way, I did not join this thread for.

Gail

Gail I will be joining you, it took a lot of courage to post my message. I feel so fragile at the moment so to be told in other words, to stop complaining and get on with it was like a slap in the face.
I have no blessings to count at moment, I have nothing but pain and don't know how much longer I can put up with it.

Caz

Do you know I was thinking the same as you two.
I replied to part of Egyptian Goddess message, but ignored the bit I felt most upset about. This morning I thought I would reply to it, to find Gail and Caz had said how that sort of statement hurts. As if we do not know the problems in the world. We also see what is going on and cry at the nature of this world.
But depression is an imbalance in the chemicals in our brains, so no amount of counting our blessings will change that. Rich as well as poor get it! Famous and infamous, and ordinary people like us. So with respect EG read a little about depression try it yourself for a year or two then come back and tell us how you felt when people told you to count your blessings. My psychologist said I have to be more assertive so I should have said how I felt last night when I read that post

Gail and Caz I'm so sorry to have you hurt, that was just one post in nearly 3000, so don't let it put you off. As you can see most people stay away or join in in good spirits with us. xxx

Dad is still not very good. Mum and neice went yesterday he is not eating, drinking or happy.

My friend with FM is still in hospital also not very well
with pain in her abdomen

Liz thinking of your friend bless her.xx

Work calls so see you all later xxx

Just a quick message to Caz, Gail and anyone who feels put off by EG post.
We all put our feelings and opinions on here, EG has done the same. It doesn't mean we have to agree or even bother with her opinion. She has just said it is her way of trying to shake herself out of feeling bad, we all have different coping methods so come on girls, keep visiting the thread and posting so we know how you are, otherwise you will get us all worrying, we like to see people check in so we know you are ok. Marcia is more of an expert than EG so re read her post and realise how useful this thread is to us all, and also to the professionals who can learn more about depression and anxiety from here than any text book!!!
Caz, so sorry you are feeling so poorly, do come on here and talk to us.
Gail, hope today is better for you, love.
Carole, you take care, thanks for thoughts for Lizzie, she will be having her radio therapy today - bet she had to go during the downpour knowing her luck, but hope she can get back to her Dad's later today, she will feel happier being there altho it isn't so easy to visit as miles out of the city in the opposite direction to anywhere I need to go.
Think of the elephant's bum on a pea cycling home if it chucks it down again at 2 ish!
Blue skies now with the clouds blowing away so hope it stays bright the rest of the day, drain was flooded a while ago -will be clear again when I go to look.
Back to bed, rain woke me, see you all later maybe.
Take care, and keep reading and posting.
love
Lizxxx

I I am sending a BIG (((HUG ))))to everyone who needs one.. and thank you to everyone who has helped me.... now looking forward to my brothers visit in September... take care everyone...

You know as soon as I saw Egyptian goddesses post I just knew it was going to have an effect on our regular posters. Not the sort of support we want for people on here and not the sort we usually get. But that is just one person, she is entitled to her opinions as we all are, just that hers are not very productive or supportive and is actually ver unfeeling, so you don't have to take any notice.

Please, Gail and YCaz, please don't let it stop you posting, you need this thread, you need us. All of your friends on here are here to support you. Please feel that you can come on here and moan, complain, tell us how you hurt. Everyone faces their problems differently and both of you have more problems than most people. We don't think that counting your blessings is the answer, we think you need your friends support. And, if I were either of you, I would have great trouble finding any blessings to count. and, yes I know about people suffering with famine, displaced homes etc. Doesn't mean that because we support you we think any less of the world's suffering people.

so COME BACK Gail and YCaz and talk to us please!!!

Ann
Glos

Kathy, glad that you have your kitchen sorted at last, I am sure you will get used to the new lino, did you choose it?

Poor cat, hope he is OK after you fell over him.

Oh sorry, hope you are OK too Lol!!!

Let's hope that your son goes through with his resits this time then. has he studied for them?

Good to see you on here anyway.

Ann
Glos

Thanks for that Jeannie, good to see you posting. Hope you are OK.

Ann
Glos

Very windy here today, jusy right for blowing some cobwebs away.
I am amazed that you can remember everyone's names Carole! Many of you can too, sooo kind and caring.This thread is really a great help.After an initial bout of 'cold feet', I plucked up courage to come on here again, and am really pleased I did.The probelems are still there, health still the same, but, I can feel a lightening of the big burden.Hope it continues.
Having overcome cancer (lung removed in '83) , open-heart surgery in '93, then several other bad scares since then, all pale when you get these terrible depressions, anxieties, panic attacks etc.etc.because you can't put your finger on what is causing them most of the time,can you?Being told to "snap out of it", or coming accross those that have no idea how you feel inside, get impatient with you, or even unfriendly, doesn't help your self-confidence, the little you may have left, that is.Liz, how are your OH's 'nether regions'?
Have some happier news to tell later.

Eileen, none of your regular friends on here would dream of telling you to snap out of it so please continue to post, we are here from you. Look forward to your happier news.

Ann
glos

Hello Ann. Sorry for maybe being too vague, I KNOW that no-one on here would ever say "snap out of it", I was refering to other people who have never been through a depression, or whatever you would call it, and there are enough 'waiting in the wings' to tell us this.

My good news: My badly handicapped daughter has been planning something for some time.She phoned today to say they are going to north Wales (I knew this) on the 21st of this month, staying for their eldest daughter's 25th birthday, then coming back via Boulogne to pick me up & take me back to their place.This means she has to pump herself full of painkillers and prednison etc.to withstand the journey, but she doesn't mind at all, is extremely cheerful about it, and looking forward to this immensely.
My other daughter who lives two doors down, wants me to go with them for a weekend to Dublin in november.If they book a.s.a.p, we can get a cheap flight with Ryan Air, and sleep in a youth hostel, as we have done a lot of times before.If I don't go, it is at least nice to know that they want me to be with them.So, I feel blessed, even though my body is a wreck, and mind not a happy bunny lately.

Eileen xx

hi all,ignore what a certain person put on here.this is a great thread,if it were humanly poss to save the world ,im 100% we,d all happily do it.but keep going .your a tonic to each other.well done.xxxmwah

thank you for that Joy.

Eileen, Great for your daughter to be so positive, she is determined to enjoy life come what may. i admire her fortitude tremendously

and, you go to Ireland, go on, it will be great for your other daughter to have your company and you will enjoy it.

Ann
Glos

How kind you all are. The negative thread certainly didn't achieve what it should have, i.e. made us all feel we should pull up our socks, get on with it, and stop moaning/grumbling. We can't change how the world is, how people are treated, all the horrors, torment others go through, even though we would all love to. This thread is far, far better than the (extremley good) theraphy I had last year. Thank you all for your unfailing kindness and sympathy.

Eileen xxx

Eileen, you give as well as receive support and that is why this thread works so well.

Ann
Glos