Genealogy Chat

Hi Jaine......I've had a look around for you.......I don't have the Derby parish records.......there are no John Randalls/Randles born in derbyshire around 1835 on the BMD's..........I've had a look at the Censuses...and i can't find him either.........until 1871..when he is living in Tipton Staffs.having married a local girl and had four children..but he is a Labourer..and strangely enough his 14 yesr old son Samuel is a Boatman..if the family were were boat people they are likely to have not appeared on Census returns.
The onkly way I can really help you is next time i go to matlock Records Office and look at Derby Baptismal records..........

Derek

Hi Derek

A "rival" tells me they have all the Derbyshire Parish Records at Glossop Library, a godsend if it is true. He also tells me that if you have a DCC Library card you can access old newspapers, and he has already found my Saville Platt's report of his two criminal convictions in Manchester in the 1800s.

Love

Margaret

Hi Margaret...........that may well be true....but I doubt they are as comprehensive or accessible as The County records Office....let me know.
And you have always been able to pruse old Newspapers if you have a library card......
.and i have no rivals!!!! lol

Derek

Derek
Thankyou for looking for me, John Randall is on Radford Wharf, Stone, Staffs on the 1861 census as a boatman, still saying he comes from Derby.
Do you think it's possible that if his father was a boatman he was either-the only child born in the family in Derby, or thats he's under the impression that he was born there? ( even worse he might have had no teeth and it came out as Derby instead of Dudley!)
Anyway many thanks for your help.

Oh, Derek, I am just so weary. Your rival, but you have no rivals, tells me that parish records are at Glossop, so even more convenient for me, they could be at Buxton. But nothing on line tells me that. You are probably right, just selected records.

Didn't mean to upset you.

Margaret,

Hi Margaret..you don't upset me...I'll look for Glossop Records..don't worry

Derek

I'm off to Matlock Records Office again tomorrow afternoon....so hopefully can answer some of your outstanding enquiries..and any more you might post before about 11am tomorrow.

Derek

Hi Jaine..trouble is with Census records that Derby could equally well be Derbys..i.e. anywhere in Derbyshire......and don't forget that particularly early census records depend on who the recorders were talking to at the time......"......and where did your father come from.err..derby somewhere...and how old is he? ummmmm about 35 i think..."
And some of the early originals are devilishly difficult to read..whic applies to Parish Records too......

Derek

Hi ginny..not necessarily a long shot.........he's probably buried in Dronfield parish Churchyard......If the burial records go as far as 1935. i'll have a look for you tomorrow

Derek

Hi Derek, if you get a moment can you look at the dreaded Meashams to find parents and siblings of Gilbert born 1777. I am not positive but I think his father was called Joahannes (spelling ? )edit..... sorry forgot my manners. PLEASE !!!!

ooh Derek, if you should trip over a Nightingale or two????

Ann (in Glos) quick reminder please....lol

Derek

I sent you a lot of information by e mail Derek on William and Mary or Elizabeth Nightingale and whether they or rather which was the mother of Ellen Nightingale. I sent you a 2 page attachment I think on the Allens and Nightingales.

If you want to know more i will trawl back and find it.

Ann
glos

Its ok Ann.I did the trawling and found it..

Derek

OK thanks

nudged for Karen

Hi Gooner.........The baptisms for 1785 backwards are virtually unreadable..certainly to me.. except Gibert born 1777, 02.02.1777 born of WILLIAM and ANNE but i couldn't see any others
So I went to the marriages of meashams at repton prior to 1777..back to 1772 in fact..........

Gilbert Measham m Elizabeth Stanley 12.05.1772

nothin more before 1778:

John measham m Hannah hodgkison 16.05.1778
William Measham m Elizabeth Mowbray 05.10.1779
Thomas Measham m Mary Sophia Huthwait 03.02.1788
Richard Measham m Dorothy m Dorothy Marshall 04.09.1799

and......(probably your Gilbert) Measham m Mary meakin 05.10.1801

Sorry i couldn't do better

Derek

Ann (in Glos)..sorry Ann still can't find Ellen for you.

Derek

No worries Derek, thanks for looking

Ann

Hi Derek, thank you so much for those. I had guessed William and anne were Gilberts parents by going on IGI but it is good to have it from you. I really do appreciate you helping me with this elusive lot LOL. I cannot thank you enough for all your input and hard work.