Genealogy Chat

Margaret..do you know..I completely forgot what you said about your friend..all this time i have been trying yo tie Thomas into your Needhams!!!
Last night i was looking for a connection for Geroge needham who married Rebecca.....Beeley.Tideswell...what was he doing at Hope?????and then marrying at eyam......
Anyway I went to matlock today cos it was bugging me..and ofcourse you're right......and the Hope connection is george needham born there in 1819..son of William and Sarah.....and sister of Mary.......
As for Thomas.i really think i have done as much as i can do..unless you know better!!
I see you're also into the oldfields..another nightmare!! and i wish your sarah gregory was part of MY gregory family cos they are a bleeding brain explosion!!
Derek x

Margaret..just a thought.....William.father of George 1819..was from great/Little Hucklow.......there is a thomas nedham from great hucklow.......could they be related??????..cery close to Hope..etc..

Derek

Fudge 1........Can now confirm the marriage of William Gaunt to Elizabeth Bate(s) Duffield 05.01.1759

derek

The following i have been unable to find in the records at Matlock

HANNAH SALE......In 1793 there are no records for Horsley Woodhouse...Horsley (no Woodhouse)went back further but no hannah

JOSEPH BADDER/BADDAR..no mention of him or Emma and Mary..but there are two Chuech records in Ashbourne..couldn't get to the other cos it was being used.

Melbourne 1841..No CAROLINE/CAROLINA BOSWELL

No JOHN TOMLINSON 1842-44 at belper...but did find MARY 1842 and Hannah 1843 daughters of James and Mary Tomlinson

No ELIZA MARRIOTT 1869 Alfreton

ELIZA TAGG etc Wessington..the records only start at 1854

Sorry folks..tried hard for you..I have to say that the Alfreton belper Duffield loscoe etc records could probably be found elsewhere in xlose proximity.

Derek

La Gooner.......Cesc Fabregas fan as i remember!!

As returning office I can report that the results of the Poll at Matlcock Records office are as Follows....Matlock Town 2 Arsenal 0

or.......Family Measham.......

Gilbert and Mary Measham had the following children:

James bapt. 10.09.1820
Thomas Horatio frederick!!!! 05.01.1833
George 01.02.1824

James married a Jane something or other in 1850 and moved away to manchester

O)ther MEASHAM entries that rock your boat or fit i9nto your tree somewhere are as follows:

Geroge and Ann Rebecca Measham had Richard in 1827

Thomas and Anne Measham had:

Mary 04.01.1823
George 07.04.1828

Thomas and Catherine Measham had:

John 02.03.1821
Robert 14.04.1823

Richard and Jane Measham had:
James 04.06.1833 (married a catherine and moved to Yorkshire)
Charles 1838
William 1840

John and Anne Measham had..Eliza 29.11.1833

Gilbert and Sarah Measham had:

Frances 23.07.1820
Ann 13.10.1822
Emma 13.11.1824

at which point I packed up for the day and had a dream that Arsenal beat cardiff 5-0 in the cup replay

lots of luck

Derek

You got it right in one my hero is Csec. 5 - 0 would be a cracking result,almost as good as the information you have found for me. I will now get it fitted into tree. It was James that caused me problems as he and his family seemed to disappear into thin air.

Many thanks for you time I really do appreciate it.

I can't claim any credit for knowing your hero..co you told me! glad ot have been of help....come back to me after the replay!!

lol will do Derek just off to climb my tree and see what fits in where.

Many thanks for taking the time Derek.

Regards

Linda

HI again Derek. just a little query for you to ponder over. You gave me Thomas Horatio frederick born 1833 to Gilbert and Mary Ann. Mary Meakin gilberts wife was born in 1780 so therefore would have been 53 when she had thomas. A bit unlikely ????? What do you make of this ?

Hi Gooner.......any woman in the early 19th century who has her first child at age 40......could have had her last at 53!!.........It was certainly 1833 becasue i came upon it looking for every Measham i could find..maybe a different Gilbert and mary?

I am going to search and see if I can find another Gilbert . I thought I was old having my last one at 35 lol. Blow her luck.

Hi again Derek, Just had a look on freebmd. I have 2 deaths for Gilbert Measham one is 1858 and one is 1860. Have you any way of looking up details for these please .

EDIT>>>> Thomas Horatio was I believe born to Gilbert(born 1814) and Mary Ann Parker. I cannot find them on 1841 census to confirm this though.

Hello Derek
Could you please help me on this one, I need your advice or help.
thanks.
I'm trying to find the parents of
Richard Holme born 1826, Wigan, a provision dealer,& labourer.
He married Ellen Moss born 1828, Wigan.

On his christening details it mentioned parents being a
Richard & Ann, no other details. Date of christening 5th nov,1826.
I have rest of details of his later life,but nothing else of siblings or parents

if you could help. it would be lovely.or maybe advise me, as the best place to start looking.
Many thanks
Wendy

Sox1..Hi Wendy....I think i did a bit of work for you on this.........and to be honest i don't have the resources to research Lancashire, beyond the BMD's and the Census..both of course after 1837.
Your only chance is Parish records, and the only advice i can give you is..There is a very good Online Parish Clerks website that often comes up with gems......
yours would be: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Try it out

Derek

La Gooner.....I have a Gilbert and Mary Measham on the 1841 Census at Repton........no children..but that would be` expected ...21 and 17 year olds would have left home by that time........Not having a lot of lucj otherwise....#

Derek

Thank you for you're advice, I shall have a look. at the site.
I was not sure whether, the area would correspond with west Derby.
Many thanks
wendy

Me neither Derek. The only thing I might have found out that he was married to Mary Ann Parker in 1831 and she was born 1822 in Stanton under Bardwell (I have not been able to check out her birth nor find a death for her so far.)Then married second wife Ann Willars in 1845 in Market Bosworth,Leics that is confirmed by one of the Willars family.

Thanks for looking for Hannah Sale, couldnt get on computer till now (rotten kids!)

Hi Derek

I am not giving up - yet! Another friend has just discovered that her Irish ancestor who came over to Leeds, and for whom we could find no marriage, was married in - Philadelphia! Never give up.

Just realised that a Margaret Hill of Tideswell had a son George Needham Hill in 1819, she a single woman. That is a new one. My Needham friend has never mentioned that (Margaret Hill was his Thomas's first wife). Off to tell him.

According to census records, my William was born in Grindlow, right next to Hucklow, living Windmill on 2 censuses. So who is the Thomas you have found there?

Proper research leaves no stone unturned! It is just proving harder than we thought.

I know nothing more about Sarah Gregory. Yes, I have Oldfields, but they are from Macclesfield area. Not worked out why Mary Needham landed in Macclesfield, but haven't abandoned the idea that her husband Abraham had relatives in Tideswell. Another minefield.

Margaret