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18 Apr 2009 20:35 |
Angie
Here looks like Lucy's death showing more like her proper birthyear
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Lucy Ainsworth Name: Lucy Ainsworth Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Year of Registration: 1875 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 61 District: Blackburn County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 261 (click to see others on page) Henry son of Lucy went onto Lodge on the 1881 as now both his parents were dead
1881 England Census about Henry Richardson Name: Henry Richardson Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Gender: Male Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Blackburn County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 10 Alma St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Cotton Spinner Registration district: Blackburn Sub registration district: Blackburn ED, institution, or vessel: 72 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Beardwood 62 Sarah Beardwood 60 James J. Beardwood 24 Mary E. Beardwood 22 Henry Richardson 26
Then 1891 looks like Henry has married
1891 England Census about Henry Richardson Name: Henry Richardson Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sophia J Gender: Male Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Blackburn Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Blackburn County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Blackburn Sub registration district: Blackburn Northern ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Richardson 36 Sophia J Richardson 41 Sophia E Richardson 5
1891 England Census about Sophia J Richardson Name: Sophia J Richardson Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Henry Gender: Female Where born: Langton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Blackburn Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Blackburn County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Blackburn Sub registration district: Blackburn Northern ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Richardson 36 Sophia J Richardson 41 Sophia E Richardson 5
1891 England Census about Sophia E Richardson Name: Sophia E Richardson Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Sophia J Gender: Female Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Blackburn Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Blackburn County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Blackburn Sub registration district: Blackburn Northern ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Richardson 36 Sophia J Richardson 41 Sophia E Richardson 5
Henry a Cotton Spinner Sophia a Cotton Winder
Address 58,Cedar Street
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18 Apr 2009 20:52 |
Janice
Here is the 1871 you requested
1871 England Census about Robert Elliot Name: Robert Elliot Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Mousen County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliot 36 Elizabeth Elliot 41 Grace Darling Elliot 14 John Elliot 12 Elizabeth Elliot 9 Robert Elliot 7 James Elliot 5 William Elliot 2 Elliot 1 month
1871 England Census about Elizabeth Elliot Name: Elizabeth Elliot Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Gender: Female Where born: Kirknewton, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Mousen County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliot 36 Elizabeth Elliot 41 Grace Darling Elliot 14 John Elliot 12 Elizabeth Elliot 9 Robert Elliot 7 James Elliot 5 William Elliot 2 Elliot 1 month
1871 England Census about Grace Darling Elliot Name: Grace Darling Elliot Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Mousen County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliot 36 Elizabeth Elliot 41 Grace Darling Elliot 14 John Elliot 12 Elizabeth Elliot 9 Robert Elliot 7 James Elliot 5 William Elliot 2 Elliot 1 month
1871 England Census about John Elliot Name: John Elliot Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Mousen County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliot 36 Elizabeth Elliot 41 Grace Darling Elliot 14 John Elliot 12 Elizabeth Elliot 9 Robert Elliot 7 James Elliot 5 William Elliot 2 Elliot 1
1871 England Census about Elizabeth Elliot Name: Elizabeth Elliot Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Mousen County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliot 36 Elizabeth Elliot 41 Grace Darling Elliot 14 John Elliot 12 Elizabeth Elliot 9 Robert Elliot 7 James Elliot 5 William Elliot 2 Elliot 1 month
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18 Apr 2009 20:58 |
Janice
1871 Continued...
1871 England Census about Robert Elliot Name: Robert Elliot Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Mousen County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliot 36 Elizabeth Elliot 41 Grace Darling Elliot 14 John Elliot 12 Elizabeth Elliot 9 Robert Elliot 7 James Elliot 5 William Elliot 2 Elliot 1 month
1871 England Census about James Elliot Name: James Elliot Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Mousen County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliot 36 Elizabeth Elliot 41 Grace Darling Elliot 14 John Elliot 12 Elizabeth Elliot 9 Robert Elliot 7 James Elliot 5 William Elliot 2 Elliot 1 month
1871 England Census about William Elliot Name: William Elliot Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Mousen County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliot 36 Elizabeth Elliot 41 Grace Darling Elliot 14 John Elliot 12 Elizabeth Elliot 9 Robert Elliot 7 James Elliot 5 William Elliot 2 Elliot 1 month
1871 England Census about Elliot Infant Name: Elliot Infant Age: 1 month Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Mousen County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliot 36 Elizabeth Elliot 41 Grace Darling Elliot 14 John Elliot 12 Elizabeth Elliot 9 Robert Elliot 7 James Elliot 5 William Elliot 2 Elliot 1 month
Robert a Ag Lab Grace and John Ag Lab
Address Village of Mousen
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18 Apr 2009 21:06 |
Janice
1861 you requested
1861 England Census about Robert Elliott Name: Robert Elliott Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Lucker, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Lucker County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliott 26 Elizabeth Elliott 31 Grace D Elliott 4 John Elliott 2 Infant Elliott under 1 Mo
1861 England Census about Elizabeth Elliott Name: Elizabeth Elliott Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Gender: Female Where born: Killham, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Lucker County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliott 26 Elizabeth Elliott 31 Grace D Elliott 4 John Elliott 2 Infant Elliott under 1 Mo
1861 England Census about Grace D Elliott Name: Grace D Elliott Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Lucker, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Lucker County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliott 26 Elizabeth Elliott 31 Grace D Elliott 4 John Elliott 2 Infant Elliott under 1 Mo
1861 England Census about John Elliott Name: John Elliott Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Lucker, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Lucker County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliott 26 Elizabeth Elliott 31 Grace D Elliott 4 John Elliott 2 Infant Elliott under 1 Mo
1861 England Census about Infant Elliott Name: Infant Elliott Age: under 1 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Lucker, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Lucker County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Belford Sub registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Robert Elliott 26 Elizabeth Elliott 31 Grace D Elliott 4 John Elliott 2 Infant Elliott under 1 Mo
Robert a Flour Mill Carter
Address Lucker Village
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18 Apr 2009 21:20 |
Alan
Hi Alan....here is James Irving on the 1901 under Sallie
1901 England Census about James J Sallie Name: James J Sallie Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Janet S Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Kirkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Athanasius County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Kirkdale ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 246 Household Members: Name Age James J Sallie 40 Janet S Sallie 34 Jeannie S Sallie 10 Charles Sallie 6 Hermes Sallie 3 Jessie E Buttars 23
1901 England Census about Janet S Sallie Name: Janet S Sallie Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: James J Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Kirkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Athanasius County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Kirkdale ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 246 Household Members: Name Age James J Sallie 40 Janet S Sallie 34 Jeannie S Sallie 10 Charles Sallie 6 Hermes Sallie 3 Jessie E Buttars 23
1901 England Census about Jeannie S Sallie Name: Jeannie S Sallie Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James J Mother's Name: Janet S Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool Civil Parish: Kirkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Athanasius County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Kirkdale ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 246 Household Members: Name Age James J Sallie 40 Janet S Sallie 34 Jeannie S Sallie 10 Charles Sallie 6 Hermes Sallie 3 Jessie E Buttars 23
1901 England Census about Charles Sallie Name: Charles Sallie Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Relation: Son Father's Name: James J Mother's Name: Janet S Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool Civil Parish: Kirkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Athanasius County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Kirkdale ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 246 Household Members: Name Age James J Sallie 40 Janet S Sallie 34 Jeannie S Sallie 10 Charles Sallie 6 Hermes Sallie 3 Jessie E Buttars 23
1901 England Census about Hermes Sallie Name: Hermes Sallie Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Relation: Son Father's Name: James J Mother's Name: Janet S Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool Civil Parish: Kirkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Athanasius County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Kirkdale ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 246 Household Members: Name Age James J Sallie 40 Janet S Sallie 34 Jeannie S Sallie 10 Charles Sallie 6 Hermes Sallie 3 Jessie E Buttars 23
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18 Apr 2009 21:24 |
Alan
1901 Continued....
1901 England Census about Jessie E Buttars Name: Jessie E Buttars Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool Civil Parish: Kirkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Athanasius County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Kirkdale ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 246 Household Members: Name Age James J Sallie 40 Janet S Sallie 34 Jeannie S Sallie 10 Charles Sallie 6 Hermes Sallie 3 Jessie E Buttars 23
James a Dock Labourer
Address 74 Orwell Road
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18 Apr 2009 22:04 |
Hi Michelle
There is no word to describe you apart from BRILLIANT!
Thank you so much.
Alan
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18 Apr 2009 22:07 |
Alan
Here is the 1861 for the family Gallie...which has again been mistranscribed this time as Galler!Has the 2 sons you requested
1861 England Census about Charles Galler Name: Charles Galler Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Agnes Gender: Male Where born: Jersey, Channel Islands Civil Parish: Toxteth Park Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 64 Household Members: Name Age Charles Galler 25 Agnes Galler 23 William C Galler 2 James J Galler 6 Mo
1861 England Census about Agnes Galler Name: Agnes Galler Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles Gender: Female Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Toxteth Park Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 64 Household Members: Name Age Charles Galler 25 Agnes Galler 23 William C Galler 2 James J Galler 6 Mo
1861 England Census about William C Galler Name: William C Galler Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's Name: Charles Mother's Name: Agnes Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Toxteth Park Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 64 Household Members: Name Age Charles Galler 25 Agnes Galler 23 William C Galler 2 James J Galler 6 Mo
1861 England Census about James J Galler Name: James J Galler Age: 6 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's Name: Charles Mother's Name: Agnes Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Toxteth Park Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 64 Household Members: Name Age Charles Galler 25 Agnes Galler 23 William C Galler 2 James J Galler 6 Mo
Charles...writing not brill maybe Seaman?merchant seaman?
Clearly Galli on the census image and last letter could be seen as r but is an e.
Address Northumberland Street
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18 Apr 2009 22:30 |
Alan
Thought you might be interested that the son Charles from the 1901 i found had the Irving middle name also.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Charles Irving Gallie Name: Charles Irving Gallie Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: West Derby County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 328 (click to see others on page)
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18 Apr 2009 22:38 |
Maureen
Glad you now have his year of birth and death cert has helped a little.Would you refresh me on the details of him...when he died etc and i will take a look again for you now we have an approx birthyear.
Michelle
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18 Apr 2009 22:50 |
Lily
Here is Benjamin's birth record
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Benjamin Troke Name: Benjamin Troke Year of Registration: 1840 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Christchurch (1837-1925) County: Hampshire Volume: 8 Page: 160 (click to see others on page) Here is the 1841
1841 England Census about Henry Troke Name: Henry Troke Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Gender: Male Where born: Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Hundred: Christchurch County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Christchurch Sub registration district: Christchurch Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Troke 35 Martha Troke 35 Mary Troke 9 Sarah Troke 6 John Troke 4 Benjiman Troke 7 Mo
1841 England Census about Martha Troke Name: Martha Troke Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Gender: Female Where born: Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Hundred: Christchurch County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Christchurch Sub registration district: Christchurch Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Troke 35 Martha Troke 35 Mary Troke 9 Sarah Troke 6 John Troke 4 Benjiman Troke 7 Mo
1841 England Census about Mary Troke Name: Mary Troke Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Gender: Female Where born: Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Hundred: Christchurch County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Christchurch Sub registration district: Christchurch Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Troke 35 Martha Troke 35 Mary Troke 9 Sarah Troke 6 John Troke 4 Benjiman Troke 7 Mo
1841 England Census about Sarah Troke Name: Sarah Troke Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Gender: Female Where born: Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Hundred: Christchurch County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Christchurch Sub registration district: Christchurch Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Troke 35 Martha Troke 35 Mary Troke 9 Sarah Troke 6 John Troke 4 Benjiman Troke 7 Mo
1841 England Census about John Troke Name: John Troke Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Gender: Male Where born: Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Hundred: Christchurch County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Christchurch Sub registration district: Christchurch Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Troke 35 Martha Troke 35 Mary Troke 9 Sarah Troke 6 John Troke 4 Benjiman Troke 7 Mo
1841 England Census about Benjiman Troke Name: Benjiman Troke Age: 7 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Gender: Male Where born: Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Hundred: Christchurch County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Christchurch Sub registration district: Christchurch Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Troke 35 Martha Troke 35 Mary Troke 9 Sarah Troke 6 John Troke 4 Benjiman Troke 7 Mo
Henry a Ag Lab
Address Blackwater
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18 Apr 2009 23:09 |
Hi Michelle,
Thanks for getting back to me so promptly after your holiday, hope you had a great time.
In answers to your questions I hope the following will help;
Elizabeth listed her maiden name as both Golston and McCannah. The Golston was on my grandmothers birth cert and McCannah on her marriage cert with her father called William McCannah, she also stated she was a spinster. So for some reason she used both names. Many years ago my mum's cousin did some family history and Elizabeth also registered her mother's birth with a maiden name of Golston. Sadly both my mum and cousin are now deceased.
On her marriage cert it is not shown as William McCannah as being deceased he was a shoemaker. I believe Elizabeth was illiterate an X was used instead of her signature.
The address on the marriage cert must have been hers as James Buckner gave his as Parish of St Thomas Winchester - I think he may have been in the army at the time of his marriage.
The witnesses who I think were also illiterate were Sarah Pope and William Failons (I think writing quite hard to decipher).
On Elizabeth's death cert in 1919 her age was 56 which would have made her 15 on marriage and not 19 as stated on the cert.
The 1911 census gives her age as 50 married for 30years and born in Southampton.
Hope the above helps to unravel my mystery.
Many thanks
Kind regards
Jill
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18 Apr 2009 23:21 |
Lily
The 1861 sees Benjamins age a bit out.It could well be it was written as 21 on the image and looks like 27...census writing is always tricky to make out!Mother is Martha on the image and not Marsha and both Sarah and Benjamin listed as single.
1861 England Census about Henry Troke Name: Henry Troke Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Marsha Gender: Male Where born: Christchurch, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Town: Christchurch County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Christchurch Sub registration district: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Henry Troke 58 Marsha Troke 58 Sarah Troke 26 Benjamin Troke 27 Troke 4 Mo
1861 England Census about Marsha Troke Name: Marsha Troke Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Henry Gender: Female Where born: Christchurch, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Town: Christchurch County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Christchurch Sub registration district: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Henry Troke 58 Marsha Troke 58 Sarah Troke 26 Benjamin Troke 27 Troke 4 Mo
1861 England Census about Sarah Troke Name: Sarah Troke Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Marsha Gender: Female Where born: Christchurch, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Town: Christchurch County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Christchurch Sub registration district: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Henry Troke 58 Marsha Troke 58 Sarah Troke 26 Benjamin Troke 27 Troke 4 Mo
1861 England Census about Benjamin Troke Name: Benjamin Troke Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Son Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Marsha Gender: Male Where born: Christchurch, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Town: Christchurch County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Christchurch Sub registration district: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Henry Troke 58 Marsha Troke 58 Sarah Troke 26 Benjamin Troke 27 Troke 4 Mo
1861 England Census about Troke Name: Troke Age: 4 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Granddaughter Father's Name: Benjamin Gender: Female Where born: Christchurch, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Town: Christchurch County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Christchurch Sub registration district: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Henry Troke 58 Marsha Troke 58 Sarah Troke 26 Benjamin Troke 27 Troke 4 Mo
Henry a Ag Lab Benjamin an Ag Lab
Address Bargates
Here is Benjamins birth and Christening record for you
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BENJAMIN TROKE Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 27 OCT 1840 Christening: 06 DEC 1840 Christchurch, Hampshire, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: HENRY TROKE Family Mother: MARTHA
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Continued....
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18 Apr 2009 23:48 |
Lily
Here is sister Sarah's Christening and birth record
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SARAH ANN TROKE Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 21 MAR 1835 Christening: 06 DEC 1840 Christchurch, Hampshire, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: HENRY TROKE Family Mother: MARTHA
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
I did find a poss marriage for Henry and Martha and her maiden name was Scott and this was for 1836...so i looked for Mary c1832 and i believe she may have been born out of wedlock?
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HENRY TROKE Pedigree Male Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: MARTHA SCOTT Family Marriage: 29 DEC 1836 Christchurch, Hampshire, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARY ANN SCOTT Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 02 OCT 1831 Christchurch, Hampshire, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Mother: MARTHA SCOTT Family This is only a poss but looks good?
Hope that has helped a little
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19 Apr 2009 00:17 |
Hi Michelle Im looking for a 1901 lookup for Elizabeth THORNLEY b abt 1899 in Manchester please. Im interested in who she lived with and address if that is possible Thank you very much Cas
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19 Apr 2009 07:26 |
Hi Michelle
How have you been keeping, well I hope. I am hoping that you could do a 1901 Lanarkshire Scotland Lookup for me please.
Elizabeth McGown born abt 1888 Glasgow.
In 1891 she was living with her parents Daniel and Isabella McGown Registration Number: 644/11 Registration district: Hutchesontown Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 100 Florence St
I cannot find either Daniel or Isabella on 1901 index but there is an Elizabeth born 1888 glasgow living in glasgow lanarkshire. This Elizabeth is not living with her parents. Hoping that this is her perhaps with relatives.
Will appreciate anything you can find for me.
bye Helen
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19 Apr 2009 09:33 |
Hi Michelle
Thanks again for the info.
I will be on holiday for the next week so please excuse me if I do not reply to your messages.
Regards
Alan
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***Michelle***
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19 Apr 2009 12:48 |
Cas
There are 2 showing around 1899 birthyear...they are both c1900 Manchester and 1 is Elizabeth Ann Thornley the other Elizabeth Thornley.As you did not mention the Ann i will post the 1 which is just Elizabeth Thornley
1901 England Census about James Thornley Name: James Thornley Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: Ancoats ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 156 Household Members: Name Age James Thornley 38 Alice Thornley 34 Lily Thornley 15 William Thornley 12 Ivy Thornley 10 Alfred Thornley 5 Martha Thornley 3 Elizabeth Thornley 1
1901 England Census about Alice Thornley Name: Alice Thornley Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: James Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: Ancoats ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 156 Household Members: Name Age James Thornley 38 Alice Thornley 34 Lily Thornley 15 William Thornley 12 Ivy Thornley 10 Alfred Thornley 5 Martha Thornley 3 Elizabeth Thornley 1
1901 England Census about Lily Thornley Name: Lily Thornley Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Alice Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: Ancoats ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 156 Household Members: Name Age James Thornley 38 Alice Thornley 34 Lily Thornley 15 William Thornley 12 Ivy Thornley 10 Alfred Thornley 5 Martha Thornley 3 Elizabeth Thornley 1
1901 England Census about William Thornley Name: William Thornley Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: Ancoats ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 156 Household Members: Name Age James Thornley 38 Alice Thornley 34 Lily Thornley 15 William Thornley 12 Ivy Thornley 10 Alfred Thornley 5 Martha Thornley 3 Elizabeth Thornley 1
1901 England Census about Ivy Thornley Name: Ivy Thornley Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Alice Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: Ancoats ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 156 Household Members: Name Age James Thornley 38 Alice Thornley 34 Lily Thornley 15 William Thornley 12 Ivy Thornley 10 Alfred Thornley 5 Martha Thornley 3 Elizabeth Thornley 1
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19 Apr 2009 12:54 |
Cas
1901 poss Continued....
1901 England Census about Alfred Thornley Name: Alfred Thornley Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: Ancoats ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 156 Household Members: Name Age James Thornley 38 Alice Thornley 34 Lily Thornley 15 William Thornley 12 Ivy Thornley 10 Alfred Thornley 5 Martha Thornley 3 Elizabeth Thornley 1
1901 England Census about Martha Thornley Name: Martha Thornley Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Alice Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: Ancoats ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 156 Household Members: Name Age James Thornley 38 Alice Thornley 34 Lily Thornley 15 William Thornley 12 Ivy Thornley 10 Alfred Thornley 5 Martha Thornley 3 Elizabeth Thornley 1
1901 England Census about Elizabeth Thornley Name: Elizabeth Thornley Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Alice Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: Ancoats ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 156 Household Members: Name Age James Thornley 38 Alice Thornley 34 Lily Thornley 15 William Thornley 12 Ivy Thornley 10 Alfred Thornley 5 Martha Thornley 3 Elizabeth Thornley 1
James a Labourer at Cotton Mill Lily Cotton Mill Worker
Address 204 Cobden Street
I would advise you to get her birth or marriage cert to ensure this is the correct family.As i mentioned there were a couple showing around same birthyear and place.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Elizabeth Thornley Name: Elizabeth Thornley Year of Registration: 1899 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Manchester (1837-1924) County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 224 (click to see others on page)
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Janice
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19 Apr 2009 13:11 |
Hi Michelle - thanks for your help - Jan
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