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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 18 Apr 2009 20:35

Angie

Here looks like Lucy's death showing more like her proper birthyear

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Lucy Ainsworth
Name: Lucy Ainsworth
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 61
District: Blackburn
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 261 (click to see others on page)

Henry son of Lucy went onto Lodge on the 1881 as now both his parents were dead

1881 England Census
about Henry Richardson
Name: Henry Richardson
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Gender: Male
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 10 Alma St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Cotton Spinner

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
ED, institution, or vessel: 72
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Beardwood 62
Sarah Beardwood 60
James J. Beardwood 24
Mary E. Beardwood 22
Henry Richardson 26

Then 1891 looks like Henry has married

1891 England Census
about Henry Richardson
Name: Henry Richardson
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sophia J
Gender: Male
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Blackburn
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Richardson 36
Sophia J Richardson 41
Sophia E Richardson 5

1891 England Census
about Sophia J Richardson
Name: Sophia J Richardson
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Langton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Blackburn
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Richardson 36
Sophia J Richardson 41
Sophia E Richardson 5

1891 England Census
about Sophia E Richardson
Name: Sophia E Richardson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Sophia J
Gender: Female
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Blackburn
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Richardson 36
Sophia J Richardson 41
Sophia E Richardson 5

Henry a Cotton Spinner
Sophia a Cotton Winder

Address 58,Cedar Street











***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 18 Apr 2009 20:52

Janice

Here is the 1871 you requested

1871 England Census
about Robert Elliot
Name: Robert Elliot
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Mousen
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliot 36
Elizabeth Elliot 41
Grace Darling Elliot 14
John Elliot 12
Elizabeth Elliot 9
Robert Elliot 7
James Elliot 5
William Elliot 2
Elliot 1 month

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Elliot
Name: Elizabeth Elliot
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Kirknewton, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Mousen
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliot 36
Elizabeth Elliot 41
Grace Darling Elliot 14
John Elliot 12
Elizabeth Elliot 9
Robert Elliot 7
James Elliot 5
William Elliot 2
Elliot 1 month

1871 England Census
about Grace Darling Elliot
Name: Grace Darling Elliot
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Mousen
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliot 36
Elizabeth Elliot 41
Grace Darling Elliot 14
John Elliot 12
Elizabeth Elliot 9
Robert Elliot 7
James Elliot 5
William Elliot 2
Elliot 1 month

1871 England Census
about John Elliot
Name: John Elliot
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Mousen
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliot 36
Elizabeth Elliot 41
Grace Darling Elliot 14
John Elliot 12
Elizabeth Elliot 9
Robert Elliot 7
James Elliot 5
William Elliot 2
Elliot 1

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Elliot
Name: Elizabeth Elliot
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Mousen
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliot 36
Elizabeth Elliot 41
Grace Darling Elliot 14
John Elliot 12
Elizabeth Elliot 9
Robert Elliot 7
James Elliot 5
William Elliot 2
Elliot 1 month

Continue....
















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 18 Apr 2009 20:58

Janice

1871 Continued...

1871 England Census
about Robert Elliot
Name: Robert Elliot
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Mousen
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliot 36
Elizabeth Elliot 41
Grace Darling Elliot 14
John Elliot 12
Elizabeth Elliot 9
Robert Elliot 7
James Elliot 5
William Elliot 2
Elliot 1 month

1871 England Census
about James Elliot
Name: James Elliot
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Mousen
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliot 36
Elizabeth Elliot 41
Grace Darling Elliot 14
John Elliot 12
Elizabeth Elliot 9
Robert Elliot 7
James Elliot 5
William Elliot 2
Elliot 1 month

1871 England Census
about William Elliot
Name: William Elliot
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Mousen
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliot 36
Elizabeth Elliot 41
Grace Darling Elliot 14
John Elliot 12
Elizabeth Elliot 9
Robert Elliot 7
James Elliot 5
William Elliot 2
Elliot 1 month

1871 England Census
about Elliot Infant
Name: Elliot Infant
Age: 1 month
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bamburgh, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Mousen
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliot 36
Elizabeth Elliot 41
Grace Darling Elliot 14
John Elliot 12
Elizabeth Elliot 9
Robert Elliot 7
James Elliot 5
William Elliot 2
Elliot 1 month

Robert a Ag Lab
Grace and John Ag Lab

Address Village of Mousen











***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 18 Apr 2009 21:06

Janice

1861 you requested

1861 England Census
about Robert Elliott
Name: Robert Elliott
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Lucker, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Lucker
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliott 26
Elizabeth Elliott 31
Grace D Elliott 4
John Elliott 2
Infant Elliott under 1 Mo

1861 England Census
about Elizabeth Elliott
Name: Elizabeth Elliott
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Killham, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Lucker
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliott 26
Elizabeth Elliott 31
Grace D Elliott 4
John Elliott 2
Infant Elliott under 1 Mo

1861 England Census
about Grace D Elliott
Name: Grace D Elliott
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Lucker, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Lucker
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliott 26
Elizabeth Elliott 31
Grace D Elliott 4
John Elliott 2
Infant Elliott under 1 Mo

1861 England Census
about John Elliott
Name: John Elliott
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Lucker, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Lucker
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliott 26
Elizabeth Elliott 31
Grace D Elliott 4
John Elliott 2
Infant Elliott under 1 Mo

1861 England Census
about Infant Elliott
Name: Infant Elliott
Age: under 1 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Lucker, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Lucker
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Belford
Sub registration district: Belford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Elliott 26
Elizabeth Elliott 31
Grace D Elliott 4
John Elliott 2
Infant Elliott under 1 Mo

Robert a Flour Mill Carter

Address Lucker Village
















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 18 Apr 2009 21:20

Alan

Hi Alan....here is James Irving on the 1901 under Sallie

1901 England Census
about James J Sallie
Name: James J Sallie
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Janet S
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Athanasius
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 246
Household Members: Name Age
James J Sallie 40
Janet S Sallie 34
Jeannie S Sallie 10
Charles Sallie 6
Hermes Sallie 3
Jessie E Buttars 23

1901 England Census
about Janet S Sallie
Name: Janet S Sallie
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James J
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Athanasius
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 246
Household Members: Name Age
James J Sallie 40
Janet S Sallie 34
Jeannie S Sallie 10
Charles Sallie 6
Hermes Sallie 3
Jessie E Buttars 23

1901 England Census
about Jeannie S Sallie
Name: Jeannie S Sallie
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James J
Mother's Name: Janet S
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Athanasius
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 246
Household Members: Name Age
James J Sallie 40
Janet S Sallie 34
Jeannie S Sallie 10
Charles Sallie 6
Hermes Sallie 3
Jessie E Buttars 23

1901 England Census
about Charles Sallie
Name: Charles Sallie
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James J
Mother's Name: Janet S
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Athanasius
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 246
Household Members: Name Age
James J Sallie 40
Janet S Sallie 34
Jeannie S Sallie 10
Charles Sallie 6
Hermes Sallie 3
Jessie E Buttars 23

1901 England Census
about Hermes Sallie
Name: Hermes Sallie
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James J
Mother's Name: Janet S
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Athanasius
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 246
Household Members: Name Age
James J Sallie 40
Janet S Sallie 34
Jeannie S Sallie 10
Charles Sallie 6
Hermes Sallie 3
Jessie E Buttars 23

Continue....














***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 18 Apr 2009 21:24

Alan

1901 Continued....

1901 England Census
about Jessie E Buttars
Name: Jessie E Buttars
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Athanasius
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 246
Household Members: Name Age
James J Sallie 40
Janet S Sallie 34
Jeannie S Sallie 10
Charles Sallie 6
Hermes Sallie 3
Jessie E Buttars 23

James a Dock Labourer

Address 74 Orwell Road


Alan

Alan Report 18 Apr 2009 22:04

Hi Michelle

There is no word to describe you apart from BRILLIANT!

Thank you so much.

Alan

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 18 Apr 2009 22:07

Alan

Here is the 1861 for the family Gallie...which has again been mistranscribed this time as Galler!Has the 2 sons you requested

1861 England Census
about Charles Galler
Name: Charles Galler
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Agnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Jersey, Channel Islands

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Galler 25
Agnes Galler 23
William C Galler 2
James J Galler 6 Mo

1861 England Census
about Agnes Galler
Name: Agnes Galler
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Galler 25
Agnes Galler 23
William C Galler 2
James J Galler 6 Mo

1861 England Census
about William C Galler
Name: William C Galler
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Agnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Galler 25
Agnes Galler 23
William C Galler 2
James J Galler 6 Mo

1861 England Census
about James J Galler
Name: James J Galler
Age: 6 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Agnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Galler 25
Agnes Galler 23
William C Galler 2
James J Galler 6 Mo

Charles...writing not brill maybe Seaman?merchant seaman?

Clearly Galli on the census image and last letter could be seen as r but is an e.

Address Northumberland Street











***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 18 Apr 2009 22:30

Alan

Thought you might be interested that the son Charles from the 1901 i found had the Irving middle name also.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Charles Irving Gallie
Name: Charles Irving Gallie
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 328 (click to see others on page)



***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 18 Apr 2009 22:38

Maureen

Glad you now have his year of birth and death cert has helped a little.Would you refresh me on the details of him...when he died etc and i will take a look again for you now we have an approx birthyear.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 18 Apr 2009 22:50

Lily

Here is Benjamin's birth record

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Benjamin Troke
Name: Benjamin Troke
Year of Registration: 1840
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Christchurch (1837-1925)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 8
Page: 160 (click to see others on page)

Here is the 1841

1841 England Census
about Henry Troke
Name: Henry Troke
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Christchurch
Hundred: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub registration district: Christchurch
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Troke 35
Martha Troke 35
Mary Troke 9
Sarah Troke 6
John Troke 4
Benjiman Troke 7 Mo

1841 England Census
about Martha Troke
Name: Martha Troke
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Christchurch
Hundred: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub registration district: Christchurch
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Troke 35
Martha Troke 35
Mary Troke 9
Sarah Troke 6
John Troke 4
Benjiman Troke 7 Mo

1841 England Census
about Mary Troke
Name: Mary Troke
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Christchurch
Hundred: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub registration district: Christchurch
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Troke 35
Martha Troke 35
Mary Troke 9
Sarah Troke 6
John Troke 4
Benjiman Troke 7 Mo

1841 England Census
about Sarah Troke
Name: Sarah Troke
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Christchurch
Hundred: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub registration district: Christchurch
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Troke 35
Martha Troke 35
Mary Troke 9
Sarah Troke 6
John Troke 4
Benjiman Troke 7 Mo

1841 England Census
about John Troke
Name: John Troke
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Christchurch
Hundred: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub registration district: Christchurch
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Troke 35
Martha Troke 35
Mary Troke 9
Sarah Troke 6
John Troke 4
Benjiman Troke 7 Mo

1841 England Census
about Benjiman Troke
Name: Benjiman Troke
Age: 7 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Christchurch
Hundred: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub registration district: Christchurch
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Troke 35
Martha Troke 35
Mary Troke 9
Sarah Troke 6
John Troke 4
Benjiman Troke 7 Mo

Henry a Ag Lab

Address Blackwater

















Sophfox

Sophfox Report 18 Apr 2009 23:09

Hi Michelle,

Thanks for getting back to me so promptly after your holiday, hope you had a great time.

In answers to your questions I hope the following will help;

Elizabeth listed her maiden name as both Golston and McCannah. The Golston was on my grandmothers birth cert and McCannah on her marriage cert with her father called William McCannah, she also stated she was a spinster. So for some reason she used both names. Many years ago my mum's cousin did some family history and Elizabeth also registered her mother's birth with a maiden name of Golston. Sadly both my mum and cousin are now deceased.

On her marriage cert it is not shown as William McCannah as being deceased he was a shoemaker. I believe Elizabeth was illiterate an X was used instead of her signature.

The address on the marriage cert must have been hers as James Buckner gave his as Parish of St Thomas Winchester - I think he may have been in the army at the time of his marriage.

The witnesses who I think were also illiterate were Sarah Pope and William Failons (I think writing quite hard to decipher).

On Elizabeth's death cert in 1919 her age was 56 which would have made her 15 on marriage and not 19 as stated on the cert.

The 1911 census gives her age as 50 married for 30years and born in Southampton.

Hope the above helps to unravel my mystery.

Many thanks

Kind regards

Jill

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 18 Apr 2009 23:21

Lily

The 1861 sees Benjamins age a bit out.It could well be it was written as 21 on the image and looks like 27...census writing is always tricky to make out!Mother is Martha on the image and not Marsha and both Sarah and Benjamin listed as single.

1861 England Census
about Henry Troke
Name: Henry Troke
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Marsha
Gender: Male
Where born: Christchurch, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Christchurch
Town: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Troke 58
Marsha Troke 58
Sarah Troke 26
Benjamin Troke 27
Troke 4 Mo

1861 England Census
about Marsha Troke
Name: Marsha Troke
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Christchurch, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Christchurch
Town: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Troke 58
Marsha Troke 58
Sarah Troke 26
Benjamin Troke 27
Troke 4 Mo

1861 England Census
about Sarah Troke
Name: Sarah Troke
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Marsha
Gender: Female
Where born: Christchurch, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Christchurch
Town: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Troke 58
Marsha Troke 58
Sarah Troke 26
Benjamin Troke 27
Troke 4 Mo

1861 England Census
about Benjamin Troke
Name: Benjamin Troke
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Marsha
Gender: Male
Where born: Christchurch, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Christchurch
Town: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Troke 58
Marsha Troke 58
Sarah Troke 26
Benjamin Troke 27
Troke 4 Mo

1861 England Census
about Troke
Name: Troke
Age: 4 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: Benjamin
Gender: Female
Where born: Christchurch, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Christchurch
Town: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Troke 58
Marsha Troke 58
Sarah Troke 26
Benjamin Troke 27
Troke 4 Mo

Henry a Ag Lab
Benjamin an Ag Lab

Address Bargates

Here is Benjamins birth and Christening record for you

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BENJAMIN TROKE Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 27 OCT 1840

Christening: 06 DEC 1840 Christchurch, Hampshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: HENRY TROKE Family
Mother: MARTHA


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 18 Apr 2009 23:48

Lily

Here is sister Sarah's Christening and birth record

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SARAH ANN TROKE Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth: 21 MAR 1835

Christening: 06 DEC 1840 Christchurch, Hampshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: HENRY TROKE Family
Mother: MARTHA


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


I did find a poss marriage for Henry and Martha and her maiden name was Scott and this was for 1836...so i looked for Mary c1832 and i believe she may have been born out of wedlock?

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HENRY TROKE Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: MARTHA SCOTT Family
Marriage: 29 DEC 1836 Christchurch, Hampshire, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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MARY ANN SCOTT Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 02 OCT 1831 Christchurch, Hampshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Mother: MARTHA SCOTT Family


This is only a poss but looks good?

Hope that has helped a little






CasCas

CasCas Report 19 Apr 2009 00:17

Hi Michelle
Im looking for a 1901 lookup for Elizabeth THORNLEY b abt 1899 in Manchester please. Im interested in who she lived with and address if that is possible
Thank you very much
Cas

HelenBrissie

HelenBrissie Report 19 Apr 2009 07:26

Hi Michelle

How have you been keeping, well I hope. I am hoping that you could do a 1901 Lanarkshire Scotland Lookup for me please.

Elizabeth McGown born abt 1888 Glasgow.

In 1891 she was living with her parents Daniel and Isabella McGown
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 100 Florence St

I cannot find either Daniel or Isabella on 1901 index but there is an Elizabeth born 1888 glasgow living in glasgow lanarkshire. This Elizabeth is not living with her parents. Hoping that this is her perhaps with relatives.

Will appreciate anything you can find for me.

bye Helen

Alan

Alan Report 19 Apr 2009 09:33

Hi Michelle

Thanks again for the info.

I will be on holiday for the next week so please excuse me if I do not reply to your messages.

Regards

Alan

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 19 Apr 2009 12:48

Cas

There are 2 showing around 1899 birthyear...they are both c1900 Manchester and 1 is Elizabeth Ann Thornley the other Elizabeth Thornley.As you did not mention the Ann i will post the 1 which is just Elizabeth Thornley

1901 England Census
about James Thornley
Name: James Thornley
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

1901 England Census
about Alice Thornley
Name: Alice Thornley
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

1901 England Census
about Lily Thornley
Name: Lily Thornley
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

1901 England Census
about William Thornley
Name: William Thornley
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

1901 England Census
about Ivy Thornley
Name: Ivy Thornley
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 19 Apr 2009 12:54

Cas

1901 poss Continued....

1901 England Census
about Alfred Thornley
Name: Alfred Thornley
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

1901 England Census
about Martha Thornley
Name: Martha Thornley
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Thornley
Name: Elizabeth Thornley
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

James a Labourer at Cotton Mill
Lily Cotton Mill Worker

Address 204 Cobden Street

I would advise you to get her birth or marriage cert to ensure this is the correct family.As i mentioned there were a couple showing around same birthyear and place.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Elizabeth Thornley
Name: Elizabeth Thornley
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 224 (click to see others on page)










Janice

Janice Report 19 Apr 2009 13:11

Hi Michelle - thanks for your help - Jan