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hi michelle once again i turn to you ,if possible could you give me some help or advice please. i am looking for a death certificate for mary morton she died about 1961 give or take two years.she was buried in liverpool but died in rainhill regards angela .

Thanks once again Michelle, you've moved my tree on leaps and bounds today.

I've got George Bowler on the 1881 as born at London, Essex, England and on the 1891 as born at London Bow.

Like you say i'll probably need to get his marriage cert to confirm which one it is.

Hope to be in touch soon
best regards
dave

Angie

Tricky one!!I have been looking for them on the 1841 and i hate to say this but i think this maybe Lucy and her children in another house.She could be living there?visiting?and the bad news is i can't say for certain it's her because most of the census image gives initials for householders!!i hate these 1's!!!!Dates and initials look good though and i am uncertain as yet whether the Alston's are mistranscribed...need to look at this further

1841 England Census
about W Alston
Name: W Alston
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

1841 England Census
about E Alston
Name: E Alston
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

1841 England Census
about E Alston
Name: E Alston
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

1841 England Census
about L Alston
Name: L Alston
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

1841 England Census
about L France
Name: L France
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

1841 England Census
about E France
Name: E France
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

1841 England Census
about S France
Name: S France
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

W Alston...i guess is William?an Engineer
E Alston i guess is wife?
E Alston Could be Emily,Elizabeth Edward?
L Alston Lucy??
L France a Weaver and Lucy France i believe
E France..Edward France?
S France Susannah France?

I will see what else i can find and i agree with you re marriage of 1845.Looks a good poss.

Angela

Hi there!Haven't i looked for this 1 before?Could you give me her birthyear please.I will look tomorrow when next on...i am tired now.

Michelle

Hi Michelle

This family are driving me bonkers!! Have looked for them with no success on the 1901 census so i wondered if you could help me please!.

Richard Currah b 1846 Cornwall
Mary Ann b 1854 Cornwall
John Richard 1877 cornwall
Jane 1882 perranzabuloe, Cornwall
William Paul 1888 Handsworth Staffs
Lydia 1892 Handsworth staffs
Bertha 1894 Handsworth Staffs

There are other children but had left home/ married by 1901
I have them on 1891 census and 1911 and are in Handsworth, Staffs. They were still in this area in the 1930's.

Many thanks in advance

Kaz :o))

If you find them I will buy drinks all round lol

Hi Michelle

I've got a relation Bridget McSorley who on the 1841 was living at Jacksons Row, Wigan Lane, Wigan with her husband Hugh, 4 kids and 2 lodgers.

I have a record of her death between [AMJ] 1951, but cannot find her on the 1851 census. I know thw census was taken 31st March 1851 so she should be recorded somewhere. Her husband Hugh died in 1850 for the record and her son Thomas was my GG grandfather.

I'm trying to establish if she was born in England or Ireland, could you check your 1851 for me as you always seem to get better results.

thanks
dave

hi michelle please can you help me i have a annes kemp born 1859 yorkshire.
on one census she is living with her husband john smith b 1859 wirksworth derbyshire they were married march 1874 at wath upon dearne rotherham s yorks.she is know on census has annie when married.
i would like to know if you could possibly find annes parents please .
and thank you

Kaz

Been looking nothing so far....on the 1911 were both parents still alive?I will keep looking for you and come back to yours after i have done a couple of others.

Their is also the poss that they were on holiday,or they were 1901 strays...left off the census records?-although i have looked at a couple of sites on this option.

Michelle

David

Bridget's death was registered in June and like you say the census was taken March 30th.I am a little unsure re death records but i know re birth records quite often these were registered a few weeks after birth sometimes a few months!I noticed 1 daughter in a workhouse and a son as a servant and that was the youngest son so i would say she was dead late March or dying and in a hospital for the poor and not all of these can be found on the census records.Remember this is still early days of registration which began in 1837 and although these days deaths are registered within 5 days things were very different then.Have you thought about sending for the death cert?

Also something to bear in mind some of the 1851 census records for some areas of Lancashire were water damaged.Wigan is not 1 but Bridget may have been visting that night in an area where records were damaged.

Michelle

Shemp

Hi Shemp do you have the district Annie was born in please?i should imagine the s on the Annes on the wedding record will be a transcript error and she is was either Annie or Anne on earlier records.As there are choices and not just 1 Annie-Anne Kemp i could really do with district of birth as well as County.
Do you have any of her children's names and places of birth?So i can look for her under Smith...quite a few John and Ann-Annie-Anne Smith couples on the records.

Thanks
Michelle

Kath

Hi Kath,nice to hear from you.Here is the 1891 you requested

1891 England Census
about Henry Alfin
Name: Henry Alfin
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Empingham, Rutland, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Walton On The Hill
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 36
Martha Alfin 34
Sarah M Alfin 5/12

1891 England Census
about Martha Alfin
Name: Martha Alfin
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Perichbeck, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Walton On The Hill
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 36
Martha Alfin 34
Sarah M Alfin 5/12

1891 England Census
about Sarah M Alfin
Name: Sarah M Alfin
Age: 5/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Walton On The Hill
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 36
Martha Alfin 34
Sarah M Alfin 5/12

Henry a Railway Guard and Assistant Inspector

Address 28 Muriel Street

Hi Michelle, I have given up waiting for a reply from my contact re the last family I was following and which you so kindly helped me with, and have decided to move on.

Today I received a marriage certificate for OH's great grandparents. I have checked the 1881 to no effect so I am turning to you for census help once again.

If possible could you check the 1861/71 census for:

ELLEN LAVELL born c1857 in Liverpool as far as I know. Her father's name on the cert is Thomas Lavell a labourer. On the cert the address is 28 Rutter Street, Liverpool.

I have what I think is her birth Mar Q 1858 on freebmd in Liverpool.

Many thanks. ps. I am having some probs with my ISP and getting on the net is very hit and miss. Please forgive me if there is a delay in thanking you!!

Kath

Here is the 1901 you requested

1901 England Census
about Henry Alfin
Name: Henry Alfin
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Uppingham, Rutland, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 231
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 46
Martha Alfin 44
Sarah A Alfin 10
Florence R Alfin 7

1901 England Census
about Martha Alfin
Name: Martha Alfin
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 231
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 46
Martha Alfin 44
Sarah A Alfin 10
Florence R Alfin 7

1901 England Census
about Sarah A Alfin
Name: Sarah A Alfin
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 231
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 46
Martha Alfin 44
Sarah A Alfin 10
Florence R Alfin 7

1901 England Census
about Florence R Alfin
Name: Florence R Alfin
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 231
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 46
Martha Alfin 44
Sarah A Alfin 10
Florence R Alfin 7

Henry a Railway Passenger Guard

Address 28 Muriel Street

Hope that has helped and thanks for the clear info.

Michelle

Hi Michelle

Thank you so much for looking! yes, both parents were still alive in 1911 they died in the 1930's. I have looked in Cornwall for them but to no avail. I am wondering whether they emigrated and came back or are so badly mistranscribed it will be a small miracle if we find them.

Thanks again

Kaz :o)))

hi michelle john smith and annie/annes are living at 49 townend wath upon dearn in 1881 census it says
john was born whitwell derbys
annie born 1852 wath upon dearne rotherham
children martha 1874 wath upon dearne
george 1876 wath upon dearne
john 1880 wath upon dearne
fred wath upon dearn
annie e wath
gertrude christened wath upon dearne 13th -10-1889
alice 1890 wath upon dearne .
i just need more information on annie born 1852wath her maiden name is kemp .i do have a book on 1851 census for wath upon dearne but they is no annie kemp.what ever you find i will be grateful and thank you

Hi Michelle

Thanks for trying with Bridget McSorley.

Linking to that i'm having trouble finding her stepson my GG grandfather Thomas McSorley [1827-1871] on the 1851 census.

I've been told that his younger stepbrother Henry McSorley c:1838 was registered working as a servant on a 17 acre farm in Wrightington, Lancashire for a Joseph Oliverson [age 45] and his wife Elizabeth [age 49], but again I can't seem to find the record.

In 1861 he was living in Bolton at 9 Bens Court with his wife and kids, but for some reason all the family were listed as Marsh.

Hope you can help me out.

regards
dave

Shemp

Did you know there may have been another child Elizabeth?Here is the 1871 and her death

1871 England Census
about John Smith
Name: John Smith
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Withwell, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Wath Upon Dearne
Ecclesiastical parish: Wath
Town: Wath Upon Dearne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Rotherham
Sub registration district: Wath
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 23
Annie Smith 19
Elizabeth Smith 6 months

1871 England Census
about Annie Smith
Name: Annie Smith
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Wath On Dearne, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wath Upon Dearne
Ecclesiastical parish: Wath
Town: Wath Upon Dearne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Rotherham
Sub registration district: Wath
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 23
Annie Smith 19
Elizabeth Smith 6 months

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Smith
Name: Elizabeth Smith
Age: 6 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Wath On Dearne, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wath Upon Dearne
Ecclesiastical parish: Wath
Town: Wath Upon Dearne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Rotherham
Sub registration district: Wath
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 23
Annie Smith 19
Elizabeth Smith 6 months

John a Colliery Carter

Address Townend

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Elizabeth Smith
Name: Elizabeth Smith
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 10
District: Rotherham
County: Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 404 (click to see others on page)

Leaves me just the 1861 to find her!So cross fingers!

Hi Michelle,
I am looking the Evans family in 1851 in particular the parents Joseph and Ann and their daughter Julia. In 1841 they were living in Bedminster. Joseph (1801) was a farmer, Ann (1806), William (1824), Ann (1826), Louisa (1829) Mary (1831), Sarah (1833), harriet (1835) and Julia (1837). All were born in Bedminster except Ann (mother) who was born in Barrow (Gurney) Somerset.
Louisa married William Lodge in 1846 and in 1851 was in Reading. Julia married Thomas Long in 1859 and her father was deceased then. in 1861 Ann a widow was living in Bristol with William her son?? aged 13. I have Ann and Julia in every census until their deaths.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Susan.

David

Here is Henry

1851 England Census
about Joseph Oliverson
Name: Joseph Oliverson
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Scarisbrick, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Wrightington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Standish
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Oliverson 45
Elizabeth Oliverson 49
Henry McSorley 12

1851 England Census
about Elizabeth Oliverson
Name: Elizabeth Oliverson
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Borseough, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Wrightington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Standish
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Oliverson 45
Elizabeth Oliverson 49
Henry McSorley 12

1851 England Census
about Henry McSorley
Name: Henry McSorley
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Wigan, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Wrightington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Standish
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Oliverson 45
Elizabeth Oliverson 49
Henry McSorley 12

Joseph a Farmer of 17 Acres

David

No sign of Thomas i couldn't see him yesterday.Have posted Henry and have seen Mary.Remember i mentioned water damage to some of the 1851 Lancashire census records?This is the list of them

2219 Lancashire Manchester
Ardwick
Birth in Rusholme
Burnage
Chorlton-dum-Hardy
Didsbury
Gorton
Levenshulme
Openshaw
Rusholme
Withington

2220 Lancashire Manchester
Ardwick
Chorlton-upon-Medlock
2221 Lancashire Manchester
Moss-side
Hulme
2222/1 Lancashire Eccles
Pendleton
2222/2 Lancashire Eccles
Pendlebury
2222/3 Lancashire Manchester
Broughton-with Kersall
2223 Lancashire Manchester
Salford
2224 Lancashire Manchester
Salfrod
2225 Lancashire Manchester
2226 Lancashire Manchester
2227 Lancashire Manchester
2228 Lancashire Manchester
2229 Lancashire Manchester
2230 Lancashire Manchester
2231 Lancashire Manchester
Bradford
Beswick
Newton with Culcheth & Kirkmanshulme
2232 Lancashire Manchester
Alt
Alt-Edge
Alt-Hill
Ashton-under-Lyne
Blackley
Cheetham
Crumpsall
Failsworth Great Heaton
Harpurhey
Knott Lanes with Lees
Knott Lanes & Wood Park
Little Heaton
Moston
Prestwich
Taunton

2233 Lancashire Ashton-under-Lyne
Ashton Town
2240 Lancashire Prestwich
Oldham (St Mary's, St Peter's, Wernet, and Westwood Wards)

It could be poss he was visiting on working in 1 of these areas?Or he maybe heavily mistranscribed?Couldn't see a marriage for Henry?are you certain he is under Marsh on the 1861?How do you know its your Henry?