General Chat

National Service was designed and implemented as a way of keeping a reserve force trained and ready to defend our country, and not as some sort of tag on to the prison service.

Todays Military is a highly trained, highly skilled and very well thought of (generally) organization of young men and women prepared to lay their own lives down so that we can enjoy the freedoms and values that we have currently got.

There may well be a need for a National Service programme... but this should only be in the event of a national emergency, and should not be used as an offload and penal system for the flotsam and jetsom of society... and nor should it be used for all those millions of youngsters out there who have worked hard, learned well, and kept themselves out of trouble.

Boot camp is an entirely different thing though.... but it should be attached to the penal system and not the defence. By all means recruit ex military to run it... and offer opportunities for those youngsters whose lives are turned around by their experience.

But until or unless there is a national emergency... entry into our Military should and must remain purely voluntary and not forced upon anyone.

Otherwise something will be lost.

Regards

Daff xxx

Let's just think - I had an apprentice like millions of other young lads, I could either 'break' my apprenticeship for two years and rejoin my civvy job at the end. Or, I could complete my five years apprencticeship, then do my two years NS.. No problem .
As I have already stated - these youngsters would not have to do any combatant work, and no Eldrick, they would not be delivery boys, they would be training to do a job. If then, as I already mentioned, they would like to make a profession with the military, then so be it.. no one is forcing these youngsters to go to war, if that is what is upsetting many.
But when they had completed their two years they would stand a much better chance of obtaining a worthwhile job in Civvy Street. And not some stupid YTS scheme.. And with that - I Rest my case..

Daff ~~~~~~~~

Well said

{{{{{HUGS}}}}}

I agree with Daff well said .

Yes, but John.....who are you talking about?

Everyone?

Bravo Daff!

very well put, I agree entirely.


Susan
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why should the military do it what your saying can be done in civvy street

So the young who are employed (and yes there are a lot out there) will be pulled out of work to do NS ?

If my child wants to join the military it should be his choice not forced upon him ...war or no war.

National service never dun me no harm..LOL,
I was a deferred electrical apprentice and went in at around 23 yoa,
apart from other things, learnt radio communications,touch typing and morse code. got upto over 40 wpm..

silly bugger that I was after about a year in civvy street had an accident at work, chopped me fingers up a bit, so fast typing went out of the window.

but I Do agree that SOME portions of our younger generation need reining in and a bit of discipline wouldnt go astray.


Bob

Yes it should be a choice Devon Dweller .

Hi Eldrick - why not everyone, as I say, under the circumstances I have mentioned, no one gets hurt.
They get to learn responsiblity, discipline, respect, a trade. And they don't have to fire one bullet...
And many young kids from good homes, apart from the poor homes, could do with some of the above.

Tory - If that is the case, then why are they not getting the 'treatement' from the government then maybe, and only maybe, we can forget NS..
But what the h'..ll chance have the kids got today to do anything.
So for me, at the moment NS is the only CORRECT thing to do..

Sorry to hear that Bob and yes they need reining in but not useing National service .

*faints* at having hugs from Eldrick, lol!!

*blushes*

Devon Dweller.... the term National Emergency does not mean just war... there are many other events that could be declared as such... you only have to think of some of the disasters going on at this minute, and that could mean a massive *call up* or mobilisation if they ever happened on these shores.

Even so... I think that people do change their views when they are in the situation of having to defend our own shores from hostile attack, as happened in WWll. It was sad, but necessary.

In those circumstances, I would join up!!

Daff xxx

OK Tory - So what else can be done? No one seems able to come up with any sollution, apart from Edlricks, (and I must admit I could go along with his remedies)...

I can tell you an instant solution - locally elected Chief Constables.


Ponder on that one......

As with everything John it comes down to funding in the most part ,and no I agree a lot don't stand a chance as things stand but I still don't think the military is the way to go

Yes John with some of them I would agree with Eldrick to lol

Well whatever the answer is.....wouldn't Brussels have something to say?.....human rights and all that!

Just a thought


Ah but, Eldrick...... wouldn't they then be using up all their time on elections and all that may involve?.....not disagreeing.....just looking further than the question.

Susan
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MGHS as has already been said our service personal that are out there don't even have the equipment they need and the last thing they have time for is nose wipeing

National Service may have been good in it's day - don't know cos I wasn't around but it wouldn't solve much now - the world has moved on.