Genealogy Chat

Hi Uzzi........don't think i am going t9o be able to help you.Beighton is officially in South Yorkshire and may have its own parish records. There are loads of Staniforths close by..like Eckington only two miles away....but the only close match I can find is John Staniforth b 1783 Eckington.....I do't think he is the one you want..I'll ferret around fro a while.

Derek

Hi Derek
Thanks for looking, Beighton is in Yorkshire now but it was in Derbyshire in the 1800's although I wouldn't like to guess where the records are. Trouble is there are so many Staniforths in that area and John is a common name for them.

Once again thanks for looking

Hi Derek

So despite all the good work on "my" William Needham, there is bugger all on my friend's Thomas. But he does appear on the censuses in 1841, 51, 61 and 71 in Tidewell as being born around 1801 in Tideswell. Derek, my pal, any ideas how to find out who he is? Will the fact that he lived at Town End on all four censuses lead us to anything? Is there a local archive that will tell us who lived at Town End, Tideswell in the 1800s? Do we know where Town End was? One is tempted to thing at the end of the Town, but that might be daft.

Any guesses from anyone in Derbyshire much appreciated, I think Derek and I need to ask around!

Best wishes

Margaret

Margaret.I have found your Census entries....and his wife and children........His wife Eliza was born in London......is this the right one?
If it is,it seems you have a pretty complete record of him..except that he was NOT baptised in Tideswell!! at least not in 1801......
1785 or 1815...take your pick!

Derek

Hi Derek

Yes that is the right fella and wife born London. She may well have been one of the poor kids that Ellis Needham shipped up to work in his factory. Whoever the Thomases were born 1785 and 1815 would not seem to be "mine". There is a Thomas to fit the 1815 one living at Market Place in 1841 with wife Ann and daughter Mary, in 1851 at Pot Market, same wife, Mary and 3 more children, and in 1861 at Back Lane. The one born 1785 was possibly dead by 1841 but it might be worth trying to check him out.

That only leaves the 2 chaps christened Monyash and Beeley. My Tideswell CD came today, I notice there are similar ones for Monyash and Beeley, but not sure of the value of paying £10 each when the man says he was born in Tideswell - but I couldn't trace either of them in 1841 in Monyash or Beeley.

Off to play with the CD, but I may be back in touch.

It has been invaluable to have you confirm my research (and find a couple of extra generations) - my friend was getting into a terrible tizz till I came along so he will be pleased too.

Best wishes

Margaret

Hi Margaret

I have pretty well all the Cd's....including MOnyash and beeley...I think you should accept that he Thomas died 1877 aged 75 is your man......all the other stuff we have found between us..the children, three wives etc all fit.......There is not a Needham in derbyshire baptised 1801/2.
Unfortunately..if he wasn't baptised..which happened a lot..then you'll never know his parents..unless you find a Needham born Tideswell around 1780.........and then you would be guessing..which is no good......Sorry love xxxx

Greeting’s Derek…..From the Leicestershire Thread…..


We’re on the trail of a William STRETTON……. b.c. 1786.

He appears to have lived at Coleorton in Leicestershire
But he marries Eleanor Warren from Melbourne
23rd. June. 1808.at Melbourne by Licence.

Then I spotted a possibility for his Father’s Marriage :~

William Stretton. ~ Eliza MEASURES.
8th. May. 1785.
Melbourne.
By Banns.

Could you have a look at Melbourne Baptisms for the said
William Stretton c.1786.
Which is one year after the Marriage

Thanking you in Anticipation.

MIKE.

Hi mike4..sorry..for some reason the earliest registers seem to be 1820 onwards.....I'll have a look around though

Derek

Derek, do your discs contain Little Eaton/Holbrook area ?

Mike..I have William Stretton born Coleorton 1786...and Eleanore Warren also came from Coleorton

Derek

Hi LD..not specifically..they are both I believe in the parish of Duffield..I have bits and bobs........let me know what you need.I usually find something!!

Derek

Greeting's again. ...... Derek

Did those Parish Baptism Registers for William & Eleanor name ANY of the Parents ?

MIKE.

Thanks Derek, I do not need anything at the moment as I am working on other trees, but will bear it in mind when I return to that one.

Mike...source is LDS not Parish registers......but I have also found
William Stretton b Melbourne 1761.married Elizabeth Measures 1785...Elizabeth herself b
melbourne 1763....not conclusive..but perhaps a bit of help!

Derek

Greeting's again. ...... Derek.

I see that record was a submitted record
plus it could be a Baseborn event as well ?

Looks like I'll have to check out Baptism Registers for Coleorton next time I'm at the Records Office then. .....

Thank you for your help
If i can help you re Leicester / Leicestershire then pop over to the Thread

MIKE.

Hi mike..I habve a Derbyshire Parish records thread on Record Office..if you have anything else you need in derbyshire....its just I'm a bit sparse on South Derbyshire

All the best
Derek

Hi everybody.have several more parishes in derbyshire for your perusal..including Spondon radbourne South Wingfield and Ault Hucknall.

Derek

Hi Derek,
have you got Heath and sutton cum duckmanton? you found some baptism records for me children of Thomas and Ann Hudson
Thanks Mary

Hi Mary.. will have those two Registers by about Wednesday....remind me then!!!

Derek

I know you have been told this before but you are a star cant thank you enough
Mary