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parents: John Hamilton,? Margaret Turnbull


name: Agnes Hamilton
gender: Female
birth date: 07 Oct 1859
birthplace: BRIDGETON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
father's name: John Hamilton
mother's name: Margaret Turnbull
indexing project (batch) number: C11920-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

Can't be the right one

parents: John Hamilton,? Margaret Turnbull


name: Agnes Hamilton
gender: Female
birth date: 07 Oct 1859
birthplace: BRIDGETON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
father's name: John Hamilton
mother's name: Margaret Turnbull
indexing project (batch) number: C11920-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

Can't be the right one

Is your line from Ellen ,and were did Ann Nora Frazer Marry?

ellieathome

Sorry folks I seem to be giving you all the wrong information Let me start again Iam trying to find a marriage cert for Margaret tully or tilly to John
Hamilton who had a daughterr Helen born 1861 Idont know if they had any
other children I found margaret's name from my granmother's birth cert
as she was married to John Fraser my GGrandad this was her maiden
name my grandmother was their daughter Ann Norra hopethis helps
Regards Ann N F

You still haven't told us how you know about the Hamilton girl - and we can't find her on any census

I can't see where you're coming from - sorry..............probably my fault!

Can we clarify - your grandmother was the daughter of Margaret Tully and John Fraser.........is that correct?

When did John Fraser die? - he'd have had to for Margaret to marry a Hamilton

I'm not finding a "Ellen" Hamilton c 1864 Glasgow to this couple ,either in Familysearch or Scotlandspeople

ellieathome

Where did ,and who did Ann Nora marry? I never found that either

ellieathome


Edit- what name did she marry under ,Frazer or Hamilton ?
Edit - your grandmother was Ann Norra Frazer 1859

Regge I did not mention Fraser in case I confused everone
ellieathome I dont know anything about John H amilton I have tried scotlands people but no matches regards ann

I'm having trouble with the ages here .Which one of Ann Norra Frazer's children was your Father .Are we still in Scotland?

Ellieathome

Am i correct in thinking Margaret Tully never died in Scotland ,as her parents would have been on the death cert.

ellieathome

This has been my problem for a long time Ihave hit a brick wall that is why I
asked for help Idont know what happened to John Fraser I only have my granmothers birth cert which says aNN Norra Fraser which ellieathome
has found on my mothers marriage lines is ellen boyd ms hamilton
my grandmother married Charles Boyd born 1857 they are in the 1901
Regards census Sorry now you have another namecan you see how Iam confused Regards Ann

Sorry dont know margaret tullys parents Icant find where she was born my
mother was Ann Norras daughter
Helen was born 1861
John Hamilton was a Boot Manufacturer the info I have says he was
decesed when Helen married age 19years old Ann

Made a mistake my grandmother was the daughter of John &margaret
Fraser they were married on 10 dec 1854 again I think in glasgow i did
find somthing with this date i just cant find it at the moment Ann

Yes thought you had made a mistake,so
John Frazer +Margaret Tully ( Marr 1854 Glasgow)
John Hamilton + Margaret Tully
Ellen Hamilton c 1864+ Charles Boyd c1857
Your Mother

Is that right

ellieathome
Edit- Ann Norra Frazer 1859 could not be the Mother of Ellen Hamilton c1864

Ann

You aren't helping us to help you

Why do you think that John Hamilton's daughter had a mother who was originally Margaret Tully?

You're jumping from Hamilton to Fraser with no obvious connection.


Please don't refer to people by their relationship to you - use only their given names, so as not to confuse things even further

Mentioning Fraser would not have confused us - we need facts on which to base our attempts to help you

"my grandmother married Charles Boyd born 1857 they are in the 1901 census"

For which country, Ann?

Charles Boyd in 1901 was married to someone called Helen.......I thought you said your grandmother married him, and that your grandmother was Ann Norra Fraser

Name: Charles Boyd
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen Boyd
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 4 Silverfir St
Occupation: Boot Trade Rough Stuff Cutter
ED: 67
Household schedule number: 150
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1901_311
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Boyd 42
Helen Boyd 40
Charles Boyd 21
William Boyd 18
Susan Boyd 16
John Boyd 15
James Boyd 11
Mary Boyd 9
Helen Boyd 5


He had the same wife in 1881 and 1891

No this is where the problem starts to try and help my mother was Frances
Boyd her parents where Helen Hamilton & charles Boyd as our familly
thought these were the names on her married lines but iwas surprised to
read this as i knew my granmother as ann norra fraser i cant work it out as
she died ann norra this is why i am trying to find if there is a helen hamilton
as both names have margaret tully as there mother Ann

Sorry Ann, you've lost me.............