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Gosh I had to laugh at the 1861 census with Elizabeth and the children. It has her born Mexico London!!!!!!


:-D

:-D brilliant!

Hannah in 1901, still with the Clarks and now with their surname:

1901 England Census
about Annie M Clark
Name: Annie M Clark
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Adopted Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: North Devon, Shebbear

Civil parish: Bristol
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St Philip and St Jacob
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Piece: 2383
Folio: 14
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
George Clark 59
Sarah Clark 55
Rose Clark 28
William G Clark 16
Annie M Clark 48

Cherilyn, I really do think it might be worth contacting the college. They may have records for that period or know where they are.

Oh, Mel - I didn't notice that! I did look through most of the images for Shebbear in the 1861 and there were quite a few cow boys and one woman's occupation, given by her son-in-law, was "a poor woman".

Interesting - just found out that both St George the Martyr, Southwark (where I have that both Chas & Wm married) and St Luke Old Street Finsbury (where I have that Wm and his sister were christened) were Anglican churches....

hmmmmmm

That is really interesting about Hannah and the Clarks. I wonder if she had some mild form of disability that made her somewhat dependent? (Just remembered - there was a section for 'disability' in the censuses wasn't there? so maybe not)

Lol about the 'poor woman'!

We have got a funny lot around here Cheilyn ;-)

Some of them still talk the old Devon language me maid!

haha! :-) yes I might try contacting the college

Just curious - what did George Clark do for a living???

Given where the rest of the family are, a possible for William C in 1871:

1861 England Census
Name: William C Kelly
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth
Civil parish: Leicester St Margaret
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Occupation: Grocer (App)

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 2286
Folio: 41
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Wagstaff 28
Ann Wagstaff 24
Alfred O Wagstaff 3 MO
William C Kelly 18
Charles C Lewis 16
Elizabeth B Bettony 61
Ann M Hodgkin 24
Fanny Allen 13

Cherilyn, before 1837 marriages could only take place in an Anglican church, so that might explain the marriages.

Hmm but says born Plymouth???

I just had a look and it seems the Methodist/Wesleyan movement emerged out of Anglicism, so makes sense after all!

Now another qu - having trouble finding a birth or death for Matilda's hubby Wm Hy Hanson - here's a birth of a son Chris posted earlier:

Name: William Charles Hanson
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1837
Baptism Date: 14 Jun 1837
Father's name: William Henry Hanson
Mother's name: Hannah Matilda Hanson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney St John
Borough: Hackney

(address, Hackney Road, fathers occ. Master Mariner)

She couldn't find them in 1841. Maybe they went overseas given his occupation???

This is what I have worked out for this family:-

William Kelly b1807 Middx
Elizabeth Wife b1810/11
Matilda b1834 Middx?
Mary b1841 Devon
William Charles b1843 Shaldon Devon
Thomas b1845 Shaldon Devon
John Eb. b1848 Shebbear Devon
Hannah Matilda b1853 Shebbear Devon
Samuel b1854 Shebbear Devon

This is Elizabeth's birth and bap.

London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
about Elizabeth Kraushaar
Name: Elizabeth Kraushaar
Birth 19 Feb 1810***********
Baptism Date: 18 Mar 1810
Parish: St Botolph Bishopsgate
County: London
Borough: City of London
Parent(s): Jacob Andrew,
Mary Barbara
Record Type: Christening

George Clark was a wheelwright.

I wondered too if perhaps Hannah was disabled but she has an occupation on all the censuses, always something to do with needlework. Possible she was has what is know called "learning disabilities" and was not capable of living on her own?

George Clarke was a Wheelwright.

With her being an adopted daughter as she was a single lady I think both parents were dead by then. I think William died in 1888 and Elizabeth 1890.

Thanks again - Mel I had this (on page 3) will repost-

Chas KELLY b. c1765 (stockbroker); possible christening to Chas & Elizabeth on 23 DEC 1764 Saint Olave, Southwark, Surrey, England; m. Hannah TONGUE in 1803 at St George the Martyr, Southwark, Surrey UK; possible death 1847

Chas & Hannah had 2 known chn:
i. Wm b. 1806 St Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London (see below)
ii. Hannah Matilda b. 1810 St Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, m. William Henry Hanson 1830 Hackney, Middlesex UK, d. ?

i. Wm b. 1806 (schoolmaster & Methodist Minister) married Elizabeth HURST 1833 St George the Martyr, Southwark, Surrey UK, d. ?1888

Children of Wm & Elizabeth (nee HURST):
1. Matilda Elizabeth KELLY (schoolmistress; Bible woman) b. 1834 Old Gravel Lane, St George in the East, Stepney, London UK, m. Martin Wm LEMON 1860 Market Harborough, Leicestershire UK; d. 1888 Leicester, Leicestershire UK
2. Wm Hy KELLY b. 1835 Old Gravel Lane, St George in the East, Stepney, London UK, d. 1838 St George in the East, Stepney, London UK

Elizabeth KELLY nee HURST died sometime between Nov 1835 and Jan 1840.

Wm b. 1806 then married Elizabeth KRAUSHAAR (1810-1890, teacher) in 1840 Cambridgeshire.

Chn of Wm & Elizabeth (nee KRAUSHAAR):
1. Mary b. 1841 [not in Devon], d. before 1851
2. Wm Chas KELLY b. 1843 Shaldon, Devon UK, m. ?, d. ?
3. Thos KELLY (shoemaker?) b. 1845 Shaldon, Devon UK, m. ?, d. ?
4. John Ebenezer KELLY (Methodist Minister) b. 1847 Shebbear, Devon UK, m. Clara BRAGG 1868 Clifton, Gloucestershire UK, d. 1890 Angaston, South Australia
5. Hannah M[ary?] KELLY (dressmaker) b. c1853 Shebbear, Devon UK, m. ?, d. ? - adopted name CLARK by 1901
6. Samuel KELLY (teacher) b. c1854 Shebbear, Devon UK, m. ?, d. ?

Thanks Mel I had the dates for Elizabeth K but not the place of christening

I have the marriage cert for Wm & Elizabeth K, John E's birth cert and Clara Bragg's as well.

Tree on Ancestry has this info about Matilda Elizabeth.


1834 14 AprBirth Cannon Street, Commercial Road, London, Middlesex, England 5 source citations Hide source citations

22 JunBaptism Old Gravel Lane Saint George In The East Independent, Stepney, London, England

Marriage 16 Jun 1860 Age: 26 Marriage to Martin William Lemon Market Harborough, Leicestershire, England

1861
Age: 27 Residence Taunton St James, Somerset, England 1 source citation Hide source citations

Martin William Lemon dies in 1869 and she is a widow on the 1871 census and a Lay Agent (Preacher??) With her three children
Elizabeth M 9yrs born Taunton Somerset.
INTERESTING as they are in Taunton Somerset on the 1861 and staying with someone who is also a schoolmistress and Matilda was one too.

Emma J 6 born Leicester

Edward M 4 born Leicester.

Now 1881which someone put up before on here.

1881 England Census
about Matilda E. Lemon
Name: Matilda E. Lemon
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Leicester St Mary
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address: 39 Napier Street
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)

Occupation: Bible Woman For St Andrew Parish

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3173
Folio: 152
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Matilda E. Lemon 45
Elizabeth M. Lemon 19
Emma J. Lemon 16
Edward M. Lemon 14


DEATH aged 53 Leicester 10 Apr 1888

The tree belongs to a Julie Lemon but she dos'nt have the family on the 1861 census's like we now have.

Under comments is this.

Non-conformist ministry of William Kelly

I wonder if William was posted to Glous. and he was up there on the 1861 census sussing out a place for the family to live????

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Elizabeth Kelly
Name: Elizabeth Kelly
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1890
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Barton Regis
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 108

I find this Taunton connection very interesting, because that is where Clara Bragg's family were from (John E's wife).

I don't know distances - are these places far apart? ie Cambridge, Gloucester, Somerset, Devon?

Anyways, now 11.15pm here and getting weary - plus getting evil eye from hubby! ;-)

Goodnight!