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Goodnight Cherilyn! For tomorrow:

Could this be Harriet in 1871, with another sibling:

1871 England Census
about Samuel Kelly
Name: Samuel Kelly
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Kelly
Mother's name: Elizabeth Kelly
Gender: Male
Where born: Shebbear, Devon, England
Civil parish: St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 25
Piece: 2555
Folio: 82
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
William Kelly 63
Elizabeth Kelly 61
Samuel Kelly 17
Hannah Kelly 18

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about John Ebenezer Kelly
Name: John Ebenezer Kelly
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1868
Registration district: Clifton
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 283



*******Clara Bragg Apr-May-Jun 1868 Clifton Gloucestershire

Mary Ann Hurley Apr-May-Jun 1868 Clifton Gloucestershire

******* John Ebenezer Kelly Apr-May-Jun 1868 Clifton Gloucestershire

James Godwin Rowe Apr-May-Jun 1868 Clifton Gloucestershire

Potty sounds like it could be William and Elizabeth as he is now a Merchants Clerk on that census and Samuel is an Elementry Teacher. Also it is Hannah Kelly and not Harriet but it was abrieviated on the other census so could have been Hannah! :-(

Just had another look and it is Han'h not Harr't.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Samuel Kelly
Name: Samuel Kelly
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1854
Registration district: Torrington
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 470

1851 England Census
about Clara Bragg
Name: Clara Bragg
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Bragg
Mother's name: Ann Bragg
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Taunton St Mary Magdalen
Town: Taunton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Pitminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 4d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Piece: 1922
Folio: 547
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
James Bragg 44 TAILOR
Ann Bragg 43
Mary Ann Bragg 20
Emma Bragg 16
Thomas James Bragg 9
Clara Bragg 5
Jane Bragg 1


1861 England Census
about Clara Bragg
Name: Clara Bragg
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Bragg
Mother's name: Ann Bragg
Gender: Female
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England

Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen
Town: Taunton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:


Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Taunton St Mary Magdalen
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Piece: 1616
Folio: 20
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
James Bragg 54 TAILOR JOURNEYMAN
Ann Bragg 55
Clara Bragg 15
Jane Bragg 12

Poss death of William.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about William Kelly
Name: William Kelly
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1888
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 19

Can't find anything on John Ebenezer Kelly after the 1881 census or any of his family. Perhaps they came over to Cherilyn's part of the world???

No luck finding the family in 1861.

Cherilyn,

Shebbear College has a website - it might be worth contacting them to see if they have any baptism records. I am sure all the children would have been baptised and in the 1851 the family is living next door to Jacob H Prior, Bible Christian Minister.

Shebbear College, Shebbear, Devon, EX21 5HJ 01409 282 000 info@shebbearcollege.
co.uk · Shebbear College. Educating the Individual Since 1841 ...
http://www.shebbearcollege.co.uk/



Potty I live just up the road to the college. The births are registered in Torrington which would be right. There are loads of bible christian chapels round here and Black Torrington is only 2 miles away from Shebbear. I live in Buckland Filleigh and can see the college from the front of our property. I have also rung the bells in Shebbear and Black Torrington and Torrington.

Hi Potty & Mel, thanks again for your work on this one.

So now there's Samuel! And Harriet is Hannah...but I can't find her birth in Devon...not Torrington anyway, and the only one is middle initial H, not M. Could it read Han'h H?

No sign of Samuel in 1881.

What are the chances the college will have christening records? Really???

Yes Mel, John Ebenezer & Clara went to NZ sometime after 1881 and then to South Australia in 1888. John died there a few years later and Clara and her children moved to Western Australia (where I am!)

Also still looking for...

William Charles KELLY b. 1843 Shaldon, Devon
and
Thomas KELLY b. 1845 Shaldon, Devon

in Censuses 1861+

and also William b. 1807 with wife Elizabeth b. 1810 in 1861 Census :-)

Been looking all morning for William and Elizabeth on the 1861 with no luck.

I did put up a 1861 census for a possible Thomas born 1845 Devon and came up with a lodger in Middlesex lodging with a shoemaker and he was down as a shoemaker too. This Mr. Walker's wife was born in Devonshire and after Thomas's name it only has Devonshire.

I am wondering if this 1861 census is one of the missing ones or maybe they were traveling to Glous then??? It just seems very strange that we can't find any of them on this census :-(

So I think we need to put down this family and their children that we have found over the years and where they were born so us looker can remember the years of birth for them! I am getting old and can't always remember :-S

I have just found this!!!!!!

1891 England Census
about Hannah M Kelley
Name: Hannah M Kelley
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Adopted Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Shebbear, Devon, England

Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:Thrissell St

Occupation: Fancy Wool Worker**********

Condition as to marriage: Single**********

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1982
Folio: 57
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
George Clark 50
Sarah Clark 46
Rose Clark 18
Lily Clark 16
Alfred Clark 14
William Clark 6
Hannah M Kelley 38 *************
John Clark 43

RG12; Piece: 1982; Folio 57; Page 23

Good idea Mel!

OK here is what I have so far -

Chas KELLY b. c1765 (stockbroker); possible christening to Chas & Elizabeth on 23 DEC 1764 Saint Olave, Southwark, Surrey, England; m. Hannah TONGUE in 1803 at St George the Martyr, Southwark, Surrey UK; possible death 1847

Chas & Hannah had 2 known chn:
i. Wm b. 1806 St Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London (see below)
ii. Hannah Matilda b. 1810 St Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, m. William Henry Hanson 1830 Hackney, Middlesex UK, d. ?

i. Wm b. 1806 (schoolmaster & Methodist Minister) married Elizabeth HURST 1833 St George the Martyr, Southwark, Surrey UK, d. ?1888

Children of Wm & Elizabeth (nee HURST):
1. Matilda Elizabeth KELLY (schoolmistress; Bible woman) b. 1834 Old Gravel Lane, St George in the East, Stepney, London UK, m. Martin Wm LEMON 1860 Market Harborough, Leicestershire UK; d. 1888 Leicester, Leicestershire UK
2. Wm Hy KELLY b. 1835 Old Gravel Lane, St George in the East, Stepney, London UK, d. 1838 St George in the East, Stepney, London UK

Elizabeth KELLY nee HURST died sometime between Nov 1835 and Jan 1840.

Wm b. 1807 then married Elizabeth KRAUSHAAR (1810-1890, teacher) in 1840 Cambridgeshire.

Chn of Wm & Elizabeth (nee KRAUSHAAR):
1. Mary b. 1841 [not in Devon], m. ?, d. before 1851
2. Wm Chas KELLY b. 1843 Shaldon, Devon UK, m. ?, d. ?
3. Thos KELLY b. 1845 Shaldon, Devon UK, m. ?, d. ?
4. John Ebenezer KELLY (Methodist Minister) b. 1847 Shebbear, Devon UK, m. Clara BRAGG 1868 Clifton, Gloucestershire UK, d. 1890 Angaston, South Australia
5. Hannah M[ary?] KELLY (dressmaker) b. c1853 Shebbear, Devon UK, m. ?, d. ?
6. Samuel KELLY (teacher) b. c1854 Shebbear, Devon UK, m. ?, d. ?

Adopted daughter??? at 38? She is not much younger than the head of household!

What the...?!

At last, the family in 1861 (but without William):

1861 England Census
about John E Kelley
Name: John E Kelley
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Elztt Kelley
Gender: Male
Where born: Shebba, Devon, England

Civil parish: Leicester St Margaret
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Piece: 2289
Folio: 28
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Elztt Kelley 51
John E Kelley 13
Hannah Kelley 8
Samuel Kelley 6

Matilda married in Market Harborogh, Leics.

Wonder where William was?

Well done! Very clever of you to find this.

How bizarre! Perhaps he was on a Sabbatical somewhere?!

They certainly did get around...does it state an occupation for mother 'Elztt'?

I notice this one makes Samuel 2 yrs younger than Hannah, whereas in 1871 he is shown as 17 and she as 18...did they vary the month Census was taken?

I still can't find a birth for Hannah in Devon....does this census still say that's where she was born?

Found William - he must have moved to Gloucestershire before the rest of the family. Occupation - Insurance Agent. Wife was given as Elizabeth's occupation.

1861 England Census
about William Kelly
Name: William Kelly
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: St Jukes, London, England

Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: St Philip and Jacob
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 1733
Folio: 105
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
John Green 58
Ann Green 59
Catharine Green 23
William Kelly 54

Great work!!!

I am curious as to why Wm left the church...seems to have been between 1851 and 1861.

In any case I have gone from thinking John Ebenezer had only 2 brothers, to finding a further 3 sisters and 2 brothers! :-D

The 1861 census was on 7th April and the 1871 on the 2nd April - so if the ages on both censuses are correct, one of them must have been born between those two dates.