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Hi again Jeanie,

Just to add to the data i had given before for the children of Alfred William White & Sophia Elizabeth Olley.

Births
18748/1894 WHITE EDWARD W ALFRED W SOPHIA E LISMORE
23638/1895 WHITE ALMA M ALFRED W SOPHIA E LISMORE
22944/1897 WHITE UNNAMED MALE ALFRED W SOPHIA E LISMORE
4137/1902 WHITE ERIC H ALFRED W SOPHIA E LISMORE
22173/1903 WHITE WILDAN A ALFRED W SOPHIA E LISMORE
36538/1907 WHITE KEITH O ALFRED W SOPHIA E LISMORE
22163/1899 WHITE HECTOR C ALFRED W SOPHIA E LISMORE
37948/1909 WHITE MELVA S ALFRED W SOPHIA E LISMORE

Deaths
1840/1902 WHITE ERIC H ALFRED W SOPHIA E LISMORE
8615/1897 WHITE MALE INFANT ALFRED W SOPHIA E LISMORE
2549/1914 WHITE BABY ALFRED W SOPHIA E LISMORE

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Of the original child data you gave me from Alfred J & Mary A

13038/1864 WHITE ALFRED W ALFRED J MARY A PATRICKS PLAIN

We know Alfred W married Sophia Elizabeth White, and the children from this marriage.

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11956/1862 WHITE MARY A S ALFRED J MARY A PATRICKS PLAIN

I can't find nothing on Mary A S White, nothing on Ancestry or the NSW site.

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13619/1865 WHITE EDWARD ALFRED J MARY A PATRICKS PLAIN

Possible marriage for Edward?
3304/1895 WHITE EDWARD BRITT MARY H LISMORE

Possible children of this marriage?
22243/1903 WHITE FLORENCE V EDWARD MARY H LISMORE
4707/1905 WHITE ALFRED G M EDWARD MARY H LISMORE
4202/1899 WHITE EDWARD R EDWARD MARY H LISMORE

There is a tree on Ancestry, however the tree has no details on Edward except parents listed as Alexander White & Maria, again no details for the parents (hmmm).

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14410/1867 WHITE HENRY ALFRED J MARY A PATRICKS PLAIN

Possible marriage?
7998/1898 WHITE HENRY HARLEY ALICE M LISMORE

Possible children of the marriage?
4130/1904 WHITE LILLIAN P HENRY ALICE M LISMORE
31618/1899 WHITE RAYMOND H HENRY ALICE M LISMORE

There is a tree on Ancestry with Lillian Pearl White on it, parents listed as above. However this tree does not have any details for Henry ! (Grrrr)

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16380/1869 WHITE ISABELLA ALFRED J MARY A PATRICKS PLAIN

Possible marriage for Isabella?
7053/1885 DAVIS WILLIAM WHITE ISABELLA LISMORE

Possible children of the marriage?
33098/1886 DAVIS ALICE WILLIAM ISABELLA LISMORE Buy
33564/1889 DAVIS ANDREW WILLIAM ISABELLA LISMORE
19515/1891 DAVIS ERNEST WILLIAM ISABELLA LISMORE
18764/1894 DAVIS HERBERT WILLIAM ISABELLA LISMORE
25487/1907 DAVIS HENRY WILLIAM ISABELLA LISMORE
4977/1909 DAVIS CECIL WILLIAM ISABELLA LISMORE

I cannot find anything tree wise on Ancestry for this couple.



T x

Hi Tracey,

Thanks for your time re my Moore brothers, goodness knows where they went , hopefully they will pop up somewhere,

Best wishes
jean

Jean as a thought, do you have all the death certs to se if they pop up somewhere?

Or marriage certs?

My money would be on the military?

Tracey x

Hi Tracey

A right little miracle worker. Thanks again for all your efforts. I'm away to study it all. Knowing how easily confused I am may take some time:-))).

Jeanie W.

Hello again Tracey,

No I have never been able to find a marriage or death for either in Scotland .
You are probably right about the military but how would I find out please,

Cheers
jean

Hi Jean

I meant on all the other family members.... maybe they pop up somewhere on one?

Or a witness on a marriage of a sibling?



Tracey x

Sorry for being so thick, got a really bad back and can't think straight today, Oh well !!!!!!

No they are not on any of their siblings marriage certs or parents death certs, they surely don 't make it easy .

cheers
jean

Indeed, i have a whole half of my tree all Scottish, and i have a few strays.... and alot of headaches!

Your options are Emmigration, Military or Death.

Emmigration might be a case of waiting til the lists are more complete.

Military would be a case of going through the lists and seeing if you can find them (parent details would be on the next of kin page on the docs)

Death.... well thats a harder one, you might have to wait until someone else has some of the same family members and they know something more than you do.


Tracey x

Tracey,
Thanks for the info on passenger lists etc,
I will keep waiting and searching,

jean

No problem.

Tracey x

......anyone else with anything they need looking at?


T x

Hi Tracey

Have studied your findings and just to see if I could turn anything else up I tried familysearch site. Seems Hector C died 1959 in Lismore and Melva S died 1944 Sydney. Assume that as she came up when I searched against White she remained unmarried.

Productive lot that family I must say.

Regards
Jeanie

Edit: Earlier you said:- There is a tree on Ancestry, however the tree has no details on Edward except parents listed as Alexander White & Maria, again no details for the parents (hmmm). Presume the hmmm means you think they are mistaken about the parenthood?

Nope the Hmmmm, was frustration is people just copying what they find from someone else, times 4 and then not bother to do anything else for themselves....

Time after time you look at tree's and see people have just copied and pasted the things other people have posted..... including things like (unknown location) maybe Norfolk..... and then every tree has the exact same thing on it.....

At some point wouldn't at least 1 person think, hmmmm, something isn't right here, i'm not going to be lazy, i'm gonna get off my ass and actually look at what i'm pasting...

Rant over!


T x

Very apt rant Tracey.
As you know, I traced the Fishies back to 1660, using a relatives data.
Wasn't until I started to fill in the wives names I realised they couldn't possibly have been born then.
Had I not said something, true birthdates wouldn't have been known, and false information passed on.
As it turned out..and here's a little warning to everyone..the gedcom she used moved dates around.

I'm not getting very far with this email of yours!

Did you get reply?

T x

Not sure if your last post was meant for me Tracey. If it was the answer is I'm afraid "No". No e-mail received after you sent him my address.

You just cannot help some people can you??

I understand your "rant". Very frustrating. I try to double check things - have been advised to do so by more than one person.

I'm ignorant about gedcoms and from what Wendy says sounds like a good thing too.

Jeanie

It wasn't.... but still it applies i suppose.

I agree, altho sometimes people add these trees together, then when it comes to the finer details (see my other rant) they are uncaring...

I'm almost at the point of shouting, you cared enought to add them, and possibly bask in your family's glory at the wonderment of how far back you go..... obviously completely missing the point that your very existance means you 'go back' some time.... just where?

Alot of people are more bothered about how many people they can get in their tree rather than the actual people within it.

I had a fellow the other day who wouldn't accept a base child and was hell bend on finding any possible father and wanting to DNA test any current descendants !!!

I mean how in the world would you start that convo??..... I think your wonderful Gfather boinked my Gmother and i want a blood test from you to prove it. I know what my second word would be, and thats OFF !!!

I have many base born (or at least unfathered by name) children, just accept the reasoning your ancestor wanted the name balnk and move on!

You cannot possible go a witch hunt for possible victims!

Sigh

T x

Certainly makes it all pointless doesn't it. I have one such sticking point on a great grandfather by the name of Rowles. Census say he was born in Witney (varying dates but around 1843). On his marriage Certe says his father's name is Wiggins. Loads of searches, incorrect Certificate bought after doing checks on possible parents names on GRO. Came up blank on every one. Know he was living with a Margaret Rowles in 1851 who had married a Thos. Wiggins the previous year but no John Rowles with a Wiggins father nor with a Margaret mother so I've given up. Just have to accept the fact that I'll never know.

I'm off to drop back in on the Fancy Dress Birthday Party on the "Tips Board". Great fun.

Jeanie

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looking for parents of george ewings 1822 st sidwell exeter, baptism 25 march source of data igi batch c050512. parents william & phoebe ewings. found phoebe ewings & elizabeth ewings in 1851 census in st sidwell exeter is this his mother? can't find on any census parents together.did find a william ewings 1796 on 1841 census age 45 farmer bradley credition. already have a thread for a while no replies.

thanks

anthony