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Alan

Alan Report 24 Jan 2011 08:33

Wayne,
Been looking for years to trace my ggGrandmother (Agnes Stewart b. Edinburgh 1821, Christened Athelstaneford 1822) during her life, I have her birth, baptism, death and her child births but not her census return for 1841 and 51.
She never married as far as I know and was from a good family, her father was the schoolmaster at Drem in East Lothian, Scotland. She did have three children, all born at her parents house in Drem the first John in 1849 registers him as a Stewart but gives his father as William Whitton. The next two James 1852 and Janet 29/07/1855 give no father. Did not find any reference to the births in the local church minutes which were very good at letting the public know about children born out of wedlock.
The son of Agnes, John though registered as a Stewart at birth married as a Whitton 28/06/1872 to Margaret Hendry in Edinburgh and their first son was register as James Whitton in Edinburgh in 1873 though never used the Whitton name only Stewart. Then for some reason John decided to have his name changed legally back to Stewart and the application for name change was made in Edinburgh on Oct 19th, 1874 and on 27th Aug, 1875 the Whitton name was dropped.
A lot of info I know but to have any chance of tracing this William Whitton I need to know where Anges was on either the 1841 or 1851 census. A mystery I have not been able to solve in twenty years of trying.
Suspect England or Ireland for the census but not even sure on that and why come home every time for births. Her death certificate also makes no mention of a partner when she died young on 16/04/1859 at Ormiston, East Lothian. The name change by John Stewart/Whitton was in effect before his siblings married and had children so no clues there either.
If you fancy banging your head against a brick wall for a while and see what comes out your help would be most welcome.
regards,
Alan.

jimarg45

jimarg45 Report 3 Jan 2011 21:47

Hi WayneTracey,
Am trying to find a marriage for George Bailey b 1816 manchester and Eliza ??? also b 1816 manchester.
Any ofers welcome
Thanks

zenawarrior

zenawarrior Report 3 Jan 2011 16:36

hello wayne tracey
you have helped me before and wonder if you would try again i have a thread about samuel crowther c 1876 if i push it to the top of the board will you have a look for me please
thanks zena

Gee

Gee Report 3 Jan 2011 15:19

Lucy

Start your own thread as this one doesnt get much attention

Heres the marriage you mention but no birth found


England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Cherry E Brown
Name: Cherry E Brown
Spouse Surname: Brelsford
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1948
Registration district: Basford
Registration county (inferred): Nottinghamshire
Volume Number: 3c
Page Number: 235
Find Spouse: Find Spouse


The cert might give you more info

lucy

lucy Report 3 Jan 2011 14:30

I am looking for the parents of Cherry E Brown.. Born in 1922 but cannot find a record of this. The information I was given her parents surname was kinsvil (sp) but cannot find this surname registered on here.

She lived in Stapleford Married a Mr Willfred Brelsford in 1948 or around that time

Any clues? lol

ewings44

ewings44 Report 8 Jun 2010 20:14

thanks for looking

anthony

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 3 Jun 2010 12:36

Oh superb!

What a nice reply!.... I only stopped looking in case of Information overload !

T x

Dozey

Dozey Report 2 Jun 2010 13:19

Tracey

I passed on the information on Alfred & Mary's children etc. to my contact in Australia.

Heard back today and thought you might like to see what she said:-

"Excellent information from both you and your helper, it is really great.
Yes there is the Olley family and most of the White family in Lismore will more or less be related one way or another

I can see I have some work to do this end now and I can tell you that I appreciate all your help."

Jeanie:-))))

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 May 2010 21:50

Hi Colin,


There is this Joseph..

1911 RG14PN12362 RD263 SD2 ED25 SN9999
Reg. District: Weymouth Sub District: Weymouth
Address: Nicholas Street Melcombe Reges Weymouth County: Dorsetshire
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SMITH, Joseph Visitor Single M 33 1878 Royal Marine Artillery London Shepherds Bush


Tracey x

Robert

Robert Report 31 May 2010 21:39

Thanks Tracy. Your help is much appreciated. I have exhausted everything I can access but i feel they must be out there somewhere.
Bob

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 May 2010 21:35

Hey Robert,

Just been googling the Hardy's to see if i could weedle anything out....

Still hunting!


Tracey x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 May 2010 21:34

Hi Colin,

How old was Joseph when he married Mary May?


Tracey x

Robert

Robert Report 31 May 2010 21:28

Yes they do share common Grandparents (Mary Head and Thomas Hardy Snr). There are extensive trees for Thomas Hardy's family but Mary Ann's father, John, moved from Puddleton to Fordingham and fell on hard times. He is described as the Black Sheep in books. His family is less well documented than the Hardy's of Puddleton.

See this Google book page page 10 for John Hardy family tree link to Thomas Hardy:- (Thomas Hardy - a Biography revisited)

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_HAwcifOzLIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Thomas+hardy+a+biography+revisited&source=bl&ots=1o9W7Kptoa&sig=HW6Th1YePV1_mEw--lyWX6k7r_A&hl=en&ei=yxoETK2YMKT80wT22q33Ag&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false

Colin

Colin Report 31 May 2010 21:28

Hi Wayne, I am certainly stuck trying to find a Joseph Smith, whon I beleive to have come from the suffolk area.During the first world war, he served as a motorcycle outrider in the military,stationed in Abbotsbury Dorset, he bigamously married Mary May Bridle in 1919 at St Nicholas Church in Abbotsbury,they had a daughter together,Gwendoline Harriet May Smith/Bridle in 1920,born in Abbotsbury.he was found out to have been married before ,with a wife and I believe four children living in the Sufolk area,when he was arrested for stealing petrol from the military and selling it to a Mr Brodby from Abbbotsbury.he was put on trial in Dorchester and served a sentence in Dorchester Prison for theft and bigamony. unfortunately a lot of prison records including his were destroyed in a fire.We have serched most avenues we can think of to no avail,so any help would be appreciated.Joseph Smith was my Grandad.woo I never knew .Regards Colin.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 May 2010 21:16

Hi Robert,

Nothing on the Military marriages.

If you relative is related to him, how come they are not already in his tree?

Isn't there a substantial tree of his on the internet somewhere? I'd be suprised if there wasn't?

For Mary Ann to be Thomas's cousin they must have shared common Grandparents?


T x

Robert

Robert Report 31 May 2010 21:11

Yes it was quite a surprise. This is why I so keen to identify the marriage. I can then pass on the connection to the Thomas Hardy Society as a new family line from Mary Ann down to us. That would be a coup.
Hope you can find something.
Bob
Any luck with the military marriages?

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 May 2010 21:06

Pat,

I have replied on your original thread.

Tracey x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 May 2010 18:48

Anthony,

I've had a good look about (between working) and i haven't as yet found anything that is relevant to the people your searching for.

It may mean a trip to the local RO (records office) and seeing what info is there.

Sorry i couldn;t help you any further.

T x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 May 2010 18:45

Hi Robert,

I did wonder as i was looking at the names about Thomas Hardy !

Loved his books....


T x

ewings44

ewings44 Report 30 May 2010 20:19

hi, tracey

did come across this in my search. did wonder?