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marie

just to confirm family

1861 England Census
about Hastoch Goldsmith
Name: Hastoch Goldsmith
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Holland

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 101
Household Members: Name Age
Hastoch Goldsmith 52
Morris Goldsmith 29
Rachel Goldsmith 29
Nehemiah Goldsmith 26
Jonas Goldsmith 23
Isaac Goldsmith 17
Maria Goldsmith 13
Sarah Goldsmith 4
Henry Goldsmith 2
George Gast 32
Morris Myers 19
Mary Harding 25


hastochs occupation is traveller in tobacco trade
son morris is cigar maker
rachel is his wife
sarah and henry are grandchildren born liverpool



cant find anything else as yet of hastoch/hostoch

morris did go to usa

the family have been indexed incorretly as morris living alone but they are all together

1870 United States Federal Census
about Morris Goldsmith
Name: Morris Goldsmith
Birth Year: abt 1832
Age in 1870: 38
Birthplace: Holland
Home in 1870: New York Ward 20 District 14 (2nd Enum), New York, New York
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View image
Post Office: New York City
Household Members: Name Age
Morris Goldsmith 38


occuption cigar maker born holland
with him are
rachel aged 37
sarah born england aged 14
hannah born england aged 12
maria born usa aged 9
meyer born usa aged 4
john born usa aged 4
isaac born usa aged 2

cant find them on the 1880

1900 United States Federal Census
about Morris Goldsmith
Name: Morris Goldsmith
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 68
Birth Date: Jul 1831
Birthplace: Holland
[Hungary]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1865
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Holland
Mother's Birthplace: Holland
Spouse's name: Racheal
Marriage Year: 1855
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 45
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Morris Goldsmith 68
Racheal Goldsmith 68
Meyer Goldsmith 83
Isack Goldsmith 31
Katie Goldsmith 29
Bella Goldsmith 10


all children born new york
bella is granddaughter also born new york
morris occupation is cigar maker
son meyers occupation is cutter tailor
isaacs occupation salesman of dry goods

i cant find rachel or morris on the 1910


son meyer
1910 United States Federal Census
about Meyer Goldsmith
Name: Meyer Goldsmith
Age in 1910: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Birthplace: New York
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Holland
Mother's Birth Place: Holland
Spouse's name: Ella
Home in 1910: Queens Ward 5, Queens, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Meyer Goldsmith 43
Ella Goldsmith 43
Bessie Goldsmith 8
Ethel Goldsmith 7
Harry Goldsmith 4


meyers occupation is salesman
ella born new york
children born new york


age out on this but right family

1920 United States Federal Census
about Meyer Goldsmith
Name: Meyer Goldsmith
Home in 1920: Bronx Assembly District 7, Bronx, New York
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Birthplace: New York
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Ella
Father's Birth Place: Holland
Mother's Birth Place: Holland
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Meyer Goldsmith 45
Ella Goldsmith 44
Bessie Goldsmith 17
Ethel Goldsmith 16
Harry Goldsmith 14
Fannie Hamburg? 74


fanny is mother in law born new york

will look for other children and list them as i find

Hi Lorraine

Would you be able to find Maria May Jones b. Scranton, Pennsylvania on May 5, 1887? Her father was Robert Jones b. Dec.7, 1864 Rumney (Rhymney) Monmouthshire, Wales. He was a miner. Mother unknown. Maria and Robert returned to UK and I think they appear in the 1901 UK census.

Thank you
Ted

marie

nehemiah

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Nehemiah Hartog Goldsmith
Name: Nehemiah Hartog Goldsmith
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 521

he also went to usa but having trouble finding him on census

have him with son in 1920

1920 United States Federal Census
about Nehemiah Goldsmith
Name: Nehemiah Goldsmith
Home in 1920: Bronx Assembly District 1, Bronx, New York
Age: 86
[36]
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
[abt 1884]
Birthplace: Holland
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Father's Birth Place: Holland
Mother's Birth Place: Holland
Marital Status: Widowed
[Married]
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1862
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nehemiah Goldsmith 86
[36]
Henry Goldsmith 54


nehemiahs has no occupation his age is 86 and he is widowed
looks like harry not henry on the census he was born new york and his occupation is working in a cigar factory his mother was born in holland

pretty sure this is him it doesnt list family just occupation and his is cigars

U.S. IRS Tax Assessment Lists, 1862-1918
about Nehemiah Goldsmith
Name: Nehemiah Goldsmith
State: New York
Tax Year: 1866
Roll Title: District 5; Monthly Lists; 1866
NARA Series: M603
NARA Roll: 64

pretty sure this is him in 1879 new york directory listed as cigar maker

neh* goldsmith New York City, New York 1879 Trow's New York City Directory. 1879

think i have found him in 1880

1880 United States Federal Census
about Niemayer Goldsmith
Name: Niemayer Goldsmith
Home in 1880: New York City, New York, New York
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Birthplace: Holland
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Catharina
Father's birthplace: Holland
Mother's birthplace: Holland
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Cigar Maker In Shop
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View image
Household Members: Name Age
Niemayer Goldsmith 46
Catharina Goldsmith 36
Sarah Goldsmith 18
Henry Goldsmith 14
Janette Goldsmith 12
Eleonora Goldsmith 9
David Goldsmith 6


wife catherine born holland
sarah born england
all other children born new york

1900 United States Federal Census
about Nehemia Goldsmith
Name: Nehemia Goldsmith
[William Goldsmith]
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 66
Birth Date: Dec 1833
Birthplace: Holland
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1853
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Holland
Mother's Birthplace: Holland
Spouse's name: Catharina
Marriage Year: 1861
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 39
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nehemia Goldsmith 66
Catharina Goldsmith 56
Henry Goldsmith 34
John Goldsmith 18
Maurice Goldsmith 14

marie

cant find anything for jonas

isaac


1870 United States Federal Census
about Isaac Goldsmith
Name: Isaac Goldsmith
Birth Year: abt 1843
Age in 1870: 27
Birthplace: Holland
Home in 1870: Boston Ward 10, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View image
Post Office: Boston
Household Members: Name Age
Mark Street 36
Mary Street 37
Soloman Street 8
Isaac Goldsmith 27




1900 United States Federal Census
about Isaac Goldsmith
Name: Isaac Goldsmith
Home in 1900: Boston Ward 9, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Age: 57
Birth Date: May 1843
Birthplace: Holland
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1860
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Holland
Mother's Birthplace: Holland
Spouse's name: Sarah
Marriage Year: 1865
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 35
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac Goldsmith 57
Sarah Goldsmith 50
Catherine Goldsmith 32
Bessie Goldsmith 20
Minnie Goldsmith 21
Morris Goldsmith 17
Mayo Goldsmith 11
Julia Costello 49


julia is a servant
isaacs occupation is cigar dealer
wife born holland
all children born massachusetts




1910 United States Federal Census
about Isaac H Goldsmith
Name: Isaac H Goldsmith
Age in 1910: 66
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Birthplace: Holland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Holland
Mother's Birth Place: Holland
Spouse's name: Sarah
Home in 1910: Boston Ward 20, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1862
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac H Goldsmith 66
Sarah Goldsmith 66
Bessie Goldsmith 40
Minnie Goldsmith 30
Sadie J Goldsmith 40


1920 United States Federal Census
about Isaac H Goldsmith
Name: Isaac H Goldsmith
Home in 1920: Boston Ward 18, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Age: 76
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Birthplace: Holland
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Sarah
Father's Birth Place: Holland
Mother's Birth Place: Holland
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1866
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac H Goldsmith 76
Sarah Goldsmith 75
Katherine Holland 52
Bessie Goldsmith 50
Minnie Goldsmith 40
Sadie Goldsmith 52
James E Mc Callum 55
Mary Lally 65


james is a boarder
mary a servant

ted

sorry i cant find anything for maria

can you tell me where they are living on the 1901 census please

Thanks for looking, Lorraine - really appreciate it. I was once told that not all births had to be recorded in Scranton at that time. Would this be right?

In 1901 family was living in:
Ecclesiastical Parish - Ferndale, Christchurch
Civil Parish - Ystradyfodwg

Maria was said to be born circa 1900 - British Subject born in US

In 1911 Census family was still living in Ferndale. Maria was married then and not mentioned with the family. Robert's spouse is Elizabeth. I believe she is his second wife. They had been married 16 years. Maria usually went by the name "May".

Thanks again
Ted

Thaks very much Lorraine for your help that's the fella. My aunt said that he was married and she died in childbirth so its stranges. would you try something for me would you look for a marriage under the name Garland Massey.
If you look at my threadsa nice person sent me a thread which was a little strange but interesting.
On the info that you sent me it says some about marriage with dependants, i did ask what this meant and i was told that he had been married and the was a child or children so its a bit strange isnt it?


Thanks very much again Mike

Hi Lorraine,

Many, many thanks for all your hard work finding the Goldsmiths for me. It was my last idea of finding them. Because of nothing in the UK I assumed they went to USA because of how the tobacco trade was developing at the time. Hopefully with all this wonderful information you have given me I can find out where they hailed from in Holland.

Thank you so much! :)
Best wishes, Marie.

Hi Lorraine,
thanks for offer of help.
I am looking for marriage of Hugh Johnston to Oleafa Edith Heldt.
Hugh Johnston born Belfast, Ireland 1893,
Oleafa Edith Heldt born Indiana 1890, died 1959 in Huddersfield, England.
He was mechanic/engineer and emigrated to Chicago after death of his first wife Minnie Dougan.
Would like to know where and when he died as well as marriage details if at all possible.
Not having any luck with these 2 so anything at all appreciated. Thank you.

Kind regards,

Cath

Hi Lorraine,

Can I just ask, if an address is written as 30 W. 3d. h 216 Wooster and another as 39 First av. h 119 Seventh, how do I work out what it all means? I was given these details from another GR member from USA directory and wondered if it was possible to find the buildings on google maps as it is very good with street view of New York. I just dont understand all the figures etc! I could if it just said First Avenue but all that stuff after muddles me up!

Thanks again, Marie.

Hi Lorraine,

Any chance in finding a Thomas Hutchings b 1867 Devon, that emigrated to Montreal Canada 1882,.
through out his life he came & went back & forth UK & Canada. I have most his passengers lists.

He was once living in Manitoba. Canada with his family.. also lived in Quebec with his family. This is them in the 1911 Quebec Canada Census
His wife was Ellen s1884.
Rusk b 1896.
Frank b1898
Muriel b 1899
Monica b 1910.

Although he did come home to England many times , he never died in the UK.
So he must have died in Canada.
Ellen he either left or she died because he married later in 1831 in USA just over the border in Illinois and that Marriage ended . and he went back to Canada.
Hope I haven't overloaded you .So sorry if I have ,but its just a DEATH that I am after. Please Lorraine. be grateful for anything !!

ted

sorry I dont a lot about pennsylvania birth registrations, i cant find her birth online though sorry

maria

i know american streets are confusing i would presume it means 30 west and third, house 216 wooster being the town, maybe not sure, if you want to give me the info i will see if i can find the entry in the directory for you and see if it makes anymore sense

mike

the info of hes ww2 records which the image cant be viewed unfortuantly only what has been indexed, says he is a widower which would match what aunt said

will take another look under massey and see what i cant find


nothing under that surname

I did find a marriage for a columbus may and katie cross in 1913 in polk tennessee ( polk was mentioned in garlands ww2 index) so its a pretty good bet these are his parents

1920 United States Federal Census
about Columbus F May
Name: Columbus F May
Home in 1920: Civil District 3, Polk, Tennessee
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Birthplace: Tennessee
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Katie
Father's Birth Place: United States
[United States of America]
Mother's Birth Place: United States
[United States of America]
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: No
[Yes]
Able to Write: No
[Yes]
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Columbus F May 23
Katie May 21
Albert May 4
[4 11/12]
Luther May 1
[1 9/12]


now the above is no guarentee that its the right garland

did find this for a garland massey though

Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002
about Garland Massey
Name: Garland Massey
Spouse: Margie Nixon
Marriage Date: 30 Apr 1937
Marriage County: Smith
Marriage State: Tennessee

its just a marriage licence so it doesnt give parents names,



this is definatly getting strange !!

columbus was born in george
katie in north carolina
couldnt find columbus on the 1930 so searched for luther

found this now wifes name is harriet but born north caroline, head of family just has initials but born george and right year of birth for luther

1930 United States Federal Census
about Garland Massey
Name: Garland Massey
Home in 1930: District 3, Polk, Tennessee
View Map
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1920
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: N M
Mother's Name: Harriett
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
N M Massey 37
Harriett Massey 41
Luther Massey 12
Garland Massey 10


but then found this so dont think it is the same garland

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about Garland Massey
Name: Garland Massey
Birth Year: 1915
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Tennessee
State of Residence: Tennessee
County or City: Smith

Enlistment Date: 26 Feb 1943
Enlistment State: Tennessee
Enlistment City: Camp Forrest
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

cant find a marriage for garland may you say he married your aunt was this in the uk

cath

can you tell me when hughs 1st wife died and when he went to usa, did oleafa come to uk alone?

thanks lorraine

marilyn

sorry nothing for his death in canada.

Thank you Lorraine and for your time...

Marilyn x

hi Lorraine

yes he married my aunt in the uk, and his first wife in USA, Thanks for looking there has to be something. Your a star thanks for your help. whats about last will and testament is there anyway of getting hold of that is that private. Long shot I know.

All the best Mike

Hi Lorraine,
Don't know when 1st wife died as I have been unable to find her death anywhere. I suspect this is because 'Minnie' was not her real name but a nickname.
It is believed within the family that he went to USA late 30s.
Oleafa was on holiday when she died and I'm sorry for lack of info but I don't know if she was alone or not.
Many thanks for trying to help, I'm very grateful but I knew it would be a long shot.
As he had no children with either wife it is proving impossible to get anything on him.
Sorry for not having more to go on,
kind regards,
Cath

mike

hi is your aunt still living if so she can send for his ww2 records if not it would be his next of kin

did in die in combat during ww2?

this is the info for usa army records, as for wills i would not know where to look for those sorry.

http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/get-service-records.html