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Hi Michelle,

Thank you so much for giving me all that information!!

Looking at William Edward Dowsey (1872) birth cert., the mother, Mary Elizabeth's maiden name could be Sloan. His father's (Thomas Dowsey) occupation is down as Mariner (Merchant Services)

Thank you again for all the time you've spent on this!

Yvonne

hello again michelle
could you please help me find john storey born 1838 at auckland durham
married sarah shackleton had 4 children i know of john w, george s, frederick and isabella.
they were living at black road, witton le wear in 1881 and sarah was a widow but i cant seem to find out much about him in his younger days
your help is greatly appreciated

and i received george ellis birth cert today

Hi Michelle, please could you look up on 1841 census for a William Richardson age 18 with his father Thomas in Westmoreland. It could be under Kirkby Lonsdale, Kendal. Many, many thanks. Carolyn

Helen

Hi Helen!Are you sure John was born in Durham?Reason i ask is i followed the children back from the 1881 and found John listed as born in Cumberland?Here is the 1861 with a son Joseph W who is not on the 1871,no obvious death so he must have been elsewhere.

1861 England Census
about John C Storey
Name: John C Storey
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Birfoot, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Escombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Escombe
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 234
Household Members: Name Age
John C Storey 23
Sarah Storey 20
Joseph W Storey 3 weeks

1861 England Census
about Sarah Storey
Name: Sarah Storey
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John C
Gender: Female
Where born: Spronggarden, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Escombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Escombe
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 234
Household Members: Name Age
John C Storey 23
Sarah Storey 20
Joseph W Storey 3 weeks

1861 England Census
about Joseph W Storey
Name: Joseph W Storey
Age: 3 weeks
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John C
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Bells Hill, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Escombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Escombe
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 234
Household Members: Name Age
John C Storey 23
Sarah Storey 20
Joseph W Storey 3 weeks

John a Coal Miner

Address Etherley

Carolyn

Not 1 showing with father Thomas?I will post top few choices-won't break them down and have a look and see if any of them match your William.

1841 England Census
about William Richardson
Name: William Richardson
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Gender: Male
Where born: Westmorland, England

Civil Parish: Burton
Hundred: Lonsdale
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Kendal
Sub registration district: Kirkby Lonsdale
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Giles Richardson 50
William Richardson 17
Mary Richardson 26
Agnes Richardson 50

Giles a Ag Lab
William a Painter's App

Address Burton



1841 England Census
about William Richardson
Name: William Richardson
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Westmorland, England

Civil Parish: Kendal
Hundred: Kendal
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Kendal
Sub registration district: Ambleside
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Richardson 20
Agness Richardson 25
Mary Carradus 20
William Bate 14

William a Ag Lab

Address High House


Before i place anymore....is either him?I have very little info from you on him so best you look and if either is him i will break it down.
There are no age 18 on the 1841...the 1841 is not the most accurate census for birthyears though.

If neither him i i will post a few more possibles.

Helen

Only got the 1861 and 71 for John.He is a tricky person to follow back.There are a few possibles on earlier census records.I suggest you obtain 1 of his children's birth certs and get his wives name(Maiden name)then you can obtain the marriage cert,to see what his father's name was.
There were a few possibles for marriages too!!

Michelle : )

thanks for the info michelle
the sarah i have is shackleton or sheckleton born in colne lancashire
in 1851 have got her living with parents edward and martha
also brotherjoseph sister martha ann
also have her as widow in 1881 as dressmaker living at black road, witton le wear
please can you let me know if i have went wrong somewhere
thanks
helen
sorry forgot to tell you i have there son john william birth cert
born 11 aug 1867 at witton park it has father john , mother sarah sheckleton but could be misspelt as sarah could not write
thanks again
helen

Helen

I am sure you have the right Sarah.If the birth cert states John Storey as father and Sarah as mother.
The 1861-71 both state John Storey's birthplace as Cumberland.He is not an easy person to trace back...as he hasn't really given a district of birthplace.I am looking for their marriage but that's proving tricky as he was from Cumberland and she was from Lancashire and they lived in Durham!!I looked on free BMD and no marriage listed..??I will take another look on my site later.

1871 England Census
about John Storey
Name: John Storey
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Witton Le Wear
Ecclesiastical parish: Witton le Wear
Town: Witton Park
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Auckland
Sub registration district: Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 206
Household Members: Name Age
John Storey 33
Sarah Storey 30
Isabella A Storey 8
Margaret Storey 5
John William Storey 3
Joshua Storey 2 months






Michelle

Hiya Michelle, thanks so much for looking on 1841 census for my William Richardson, all I know from his marriage cert is that he was age 19 in May 1842 and his father was Thomas, a Labourer. He married Isabella Holmes in the parish of Burton, Westmoreland. On his sons birth cert in 1854 he was in Holme, the reg district was Kendal and the sub district was Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland and Lancaster. Would be grateful of any info. Thanks Carolyn

Hi Michelle, I am having trouble trying to find some deaths in my direct paternal line. These are those giving me trouble:

William WAY born 1797 in Tolpuddle, married Ann Penny Miller. Last born 1837. Ann died 1879 Dorchester Union.

William WAY born 1824 Athelhampton, married Maria CLARK. Last born 1863. Can see him in 1881 census with daughter Mary Ann whilst wife was in Lambeth with family. Cannot see him on 1891 census. Cannot find him on FreeBMD.

Joseph WAY born 1856 Tolpuddle, married Mary Ann FOOT in Lambeth. Last born 1890. I can see both him and Mary Ann on 1911 census but cannot locate death.

Have you got and ideas on these at all please?

Best wishes,
Derek WAY

Carolyn

The 1861 for the couple states his place as Burton

1861 England Census
about William Richardson
Name: William Richardson
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Burton, Westmorland, England

Civil Parish: Dalton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barrow St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Ulverston
Sub registration district: Dalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Richardson 38
Isabella Richardson 43
Robert Richardson 17
Jane Richardson 10
James Richardson 8
William Richardson 6
Mary Cranshaw 18
William Cranshaw 9 Mo


With this in mind and also the info of father Thomas on the marriage cert this looks like a poss Christening Record

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WILLIAM RICHARDSON Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 DEC 1822 Burton In Kendal, Westmorland, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS RICHARDSON Family
Mother: MARY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Poss siblings of William


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THOMAS RICHARDSON Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 02 APR 1826 Burton In Kendal, Westmorland, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS RICHARDSON Family
Mother: MARY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date


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JANE RICHARDSON Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 17 AUG 1828 Burton In Kendal, Westmorland, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS RICHARDSON Family
Mother: MARY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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MARY RICHARDSON Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 05 SEP 1819 Burton In Kendal, Westmorland, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS RICHARDSON Family
Mother: MARY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Carolyn

Did you have this death?

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BRYAN HOLMES RICHARDSON Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 07 NOV 1858 Burton In Kendal, Westmorland, England

Death: 13 FEB 1859

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM RICHARDSON Family
Mother: ISABELLA


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


Poss marriage of the parents of William....if i am right!!

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THOS. RICHARDSON Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: MARY LABROW Family
Marriage: 12 MAR 1815 Burton In Kendal, Westmorland, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Hi Michelle

I seem to have hit a brick wall and hope you can help. I have traced my great great grandfather(James Loughlan) on every census from 1861 and each one says he was born in Leeds, there are alot of variations to spellings of his names and i have checked each one out. On the 1861 and 1871 census he is living with his father Peter but his mother is deceased. I found a birth in Leeds in 1855 under the spelling Laughlin but they have e-mailed me to say that it is not the right one, fathers name is not Peter. Have you any idea's as to what i can do now.

Kind regards

Danielle

Derek

Could it possible that William 1797 died in Channel Islands?wasn't he with wife Ann there on the 1861?I found a poss for Ann on the 1871 listed as Widow.

Michelle

Derek

The 1891 for wife Maria lists her as a Widow.So William must have died between 1881-1891.I will take a look

1891 England Census
about Maria Way
Name: Maria Way
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Martinstown, Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: South Lambeth St Stephens
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Kennington First
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Hobb 24
Hannah M Hobb 27
Maria Way 72

Hi Michelle, I've been to the attic in search of info I was given on Channel Isles etc and found some old sensus data that might prove useful.

I found 1871 census Tolpuddle 1871 with what looks like wife Ann WAY as lodger and widow. she died in dorchester Union 1879 and buried Tolpuddle. So your right William may have been buried channel isles. Although I found a piece of scrap paper stappled to census data with William WAY death Apr-Jun 1869 age 72 district Weymouth, county Dorset etc. I think I will send off for that certificate. In the mean time i'll post on channel islands mailing list to see if someone can check out for a death over there.

Best wishes,
Derek

Hi Michelle, I agree William 1824 looks like he died 1881 - 1891. He was with daughter Annie in Moreton Dorset on 1881 census whilst wife Maria was in Lambeth. You've narrowed the search to ten years now. I will try and get a look at the PRO indexes and see if I can find the death.

As for Joseph and Mary Ann, I haven't a clue with these too. They are on the 1911 census onlinestuff. Is this a case again slogging through the PRO indexes do you think?

Best wishes,
Derek

Derek

No obvious death for Joseph but its poss he lived to an old age and would be on the BMD Index.He may have died aged 80 plus this would place him on the index and not show him on the transcribed records.I will take a look later for you.

Michelle

Danielle

Hi Danielle

A name with transcript nightmares!!Well my 1st suggestion to you is to send for James's marriage cert to see if father is listed as Peter on that.

There are several possibilities which i am sure you also have considered.

1) James was not born in Leeds and was born in Ireland.He may have come over at a very young age(as a baby) and so therefore considered Leeds and Yorkshire as his homeplace.

2) His birth may not have been registered.It was not compulsory to register births until 1875.Quite alot of births were not registered.

3) Peter was going by his middle name on the census records.What was the name of the father of the 1855 birth you sent for?It is poss for example that he was John Peter and favoured his middle name?

4) The birth record could be badly transcribed.

So as you can see there are several explanations for the birth record.

What census info have you on Peter prior to 1861?What i also found interesting is i looked for a death of a Loughlan female dying between 1855-1861 in Yorkshire and nothing???So did she die in England?

Also on the 1871 was the Peter you found a Clothes Dealer?

What are your thoughts?

Hello Michelle

Thank you for taking your time on this for me, I ended up working for 4 hours and think I've finally sorted it. GRO didn't send me the certificate as the fathers name didn't match but I have sent off for it again and not filled in fathers details. On the 1861 census James is living with his father Peter and they are boarding with Margaret and Catherine Clifford (down as Clillord on census). On 1871 census he is living with his father Peter, who has re-married to someone called Margaret and had Catherine and Bridget. It turns out that Margaret is Margaret clifford from the 1861 census and from looking up the marriage she married a Patrick Lochran so after all that Peter is actually Patrick. Could you tell me if there is anything on the 1851 census for a Patrick Lochran/Loughlan/Laughlin/Locklin please?

Kind regards

Danielle