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LEITCH
ALEX
1911
M
33
713/ 2/ 16
North Berwick
East Lothian

Jane 30, Alex 2 and Mary 2 at same address.


LEITCH
JANE
1921
F
40
713/ 2/ 5
North Berwick
East Lothian

with Alexander 11 and Mary Jane 13.

Jane in other records.

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Kercot Place, 9, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Kelly Head
Widow Female 52 1839 Fishermans wife Prestonpans, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
George Kelly Son
Unmarried Male 25 1866 Fisherman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
John Kelly Son
Unmarried Male 23 1868 Fisherman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Richard Kelly Son
Unmarried Male 20 1871 Golf caddy Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Daughter
Unmarried Female 18 1873 Domestic servant Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Robert Kelly Son
Unmarried Male 15 1876 Golf caddy Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Elizabeth Kelly Daughter
- Female 13 1878 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
>>Jane Kelly Daughter
- Female 10 1881 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
William Thomson Boarder
Married Male 30 1861 Fisherman Prestonpans, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
40, Victoria Road, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Kelly Head
Widow Female 65 1836 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
John Kelly Son
Single Male 31 1870 Fisherman North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Robert Kelly Son
Single Male 24 1877 Greenkeeper golf North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Lizzie Kelly Daughter
Single Female 22 1879 General servt Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
>>Jane Kelly Granddaughter
Single Female 19 1882 General servt Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

There is a Robert Kelly connected to golf mentioned.

EDIT I see he's the poor soul who died of shrapnel wounds.

Argyll Gran you have helped me before - Thank you so much .

I have registered with Scotland People : The error I keep getting is : The form has become outdated. Press the back button, copy any unsaved work in the form, and then reload the page. I will persevere.

Awww Margarita daughter died only 17 :(

William & Jessie did not seem to have children

I am trying to determine the relationship between Kate Kelly said to have lived at 6 Market Place North Berwick in 1915 with Jane Leitch nee Kelly and Mary Collie nee Kelly . All 3 Kelly women lived together for years

We know Mary Collie and Jane Leitch were Aunt and Niece
we don’t know where Kate Kelly fits in ?

The only other Kate I can find is born to a Robert Kelly Born 1844 Married to Mary Livingstone, Think their children were Mary, James, Janet & Catherine ( Maybe the Kate ) I'm trying to identify

Because I don't know where this Kate Kelly was born or died only where she lived, I'm not what what to look up?
:-(

James Kelly 1874s family details.


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cantybay, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (9 people)
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
James Kelly Male 40 1801 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Kelly Female 30 1811 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Elizabeth Kelly Female 17 1824 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
John Kelly Male 15 1826 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Kelly Female 13 1828 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Cathraine Kelly Female 10 1831 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Female 8 1833 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Margaret Kelly Female 6 1835 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
George Kelly Male 4 1837 Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Janet Kellie Head
Widow Female 48 1803 Fishermans widow Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Margaret Kellie Daughter
- Female 14 1837 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
George Kellie Son
- Male 12 1839 Errand boy Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Robert Kellie Son
- Male 8 1843 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Elisabeth Kellie Daughter
Unmarried Female 27 1824 Washerwoman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Skead Grand daughter
- Female 4 1847 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Dicks Close, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (3 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Janet Kellie Head
Widow Female 58 1803 Pauper Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Robert Kellie Son
Unmarried Male 18 1843 Fisherman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Sked Grand daughter
- Female 14 1847 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
West Gate, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Kelly Head
Married Male 28 1843 Fisherman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Wife
Married Female 23 1848 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Daughter
Unmarried Female 1 1870 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Livingston Mother
Widow Female 56 1815 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Shore, 2, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Kelly Head
Married Male 37 1844 Fisherman North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Margaret Kelly Wife
Married Female 32 1849 - North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Daughter
- Female 11 1870 Scholar North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
>>James Kelly Son
- Male 6 1875 - North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Jennet Kelly Daughter
- Female 4 1877 - North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Catherine Kelly Daughter
- Female 0 1881 - North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Russell Square, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Kelly Head
Married Male 49 1842 Fisherman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Daughter
Unmarried Female 21 1870 General servant Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
>>James Kelly Son
Unmarried Male 16 1875 Fisherman Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Kelly Daughter
Unmarried Female 14 1877 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Catharine Kelly Daughter
- Female 10 1881 Scholar Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Russell Square, 5, Forth Street, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Kelly Head
Married Male 57 1844 Caddie (golf) Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Wife
Married Female 51 1850 - Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Mary Kelly Daughter
Single Female 31 1870 General servt Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Catherine Kelly Daughter
Single Female 20 1881 General servt Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Kelly Daughter
Single Female 24 1877 General servt Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

Alviegirl:-(

If Kate Kelly was still alive then she should be on the 1921 Scottish census - isn’t it available yet on Scotlands People? It would at least tell you where she was born.

KELLY
CATHERINE
1921
F
39
713/ 2/ 15
North Berwick
East Lothian

is this Kate living on her own? If so it looks like she's Robert's daughter from above census.

nameslessone : I have looked and gathered my info from family bibles and some census. I joined this community to gain further info from family historians who have a lot more experience and no how than me. I have already been helped immensely by alviegal and argle gran for which I am truly grateful. Your comments are neither insightful or helpful!

Thank you Thank you Thank you

Janet Skead Grand daughter - who does she belong to ? I'm guessing she's illegitimate.

Its so confusing :) Kelly - Kellie Margaret or Rita

Mary Jane known as Jane arghhh!!!!

Pointing you to the 1921 census wasn’t helpful?
I believe in helping people to find the right place to find their answers - not doing all the work for them, especially when there are extra costs involved for the individual researcher.
I thought you had left Alviegirl out of your thanks when she had done a tremendous amount of work on your behalf.

Janet Sked's death:

SKED (also listed as JOHNSTONE)
JANET
63
mmn KELLY
F
1910
713 / 28
North Berwick

But I don't see a Sked (or similar) / Kelly marriage in the parish records (which doesn't mean there wasn't one) , nor do I see Janet's baptism.

Possible banns for James and Janet

First name(s) James
County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Last name Kelly
Country Scotland
Banns year 1822
Archive reference OPR 713/7
Banns date 07 Dec 1822
Item 3
Marriage year 1822
Residence North Berwick
Spouse's first name Janet
Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893
Spouse's last name Hogg
Spouse's residence North Berwick
Subcategory Parish Marriages


and James


North Berwick Burial & Mortcloth 1661-1854
North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

First name(s) James
Country Scotland
Last name Kelly
Notes Kelly, James. 49 yrs
Birth year -
Reference OPR5
Death year -
Record set Scotland, Parish Deaths & Burials 1564-2017
Burial year 1849
Dataset Title North Berwick Burial & Mortcloth 1661-1854
Burial date Feb 16th 1849
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Cemetery -
Subcategory Parish Burials


sorry have to go off to work. Good luck with searching.

Thank you Argyll Gran & Alviegal if you are out of pocket I would be very happy to compensate you :) Have a great day and Thanks again :)

Janet's marriage:

SKED JANET
JOHNSTON ROBERT
1869
713 / 12
North Berwick


They're in later censuses, although Janet's wrongly said to be the daughter of James Hepbon/Hepburn and Elizabeth his wife.

Elizabeth Kelly married James Hepburn in 1855 - so she must have had a previous partner named Sked, who was Janet's father.

Elizabeth Kelly
in the Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
Name Elizabeth Kelly
Gender Female
Marriage Date 15 Jan 1855
Marriage Place North Berwick, East Lothian, Scotland
Spouse James Hepburn

There's no sign of Janet's baptism, either as Kelly or as Sked.


Janet Johnston
in the 1871 Scotland Census
Name Janet Johnston [Janet Hepbon]
Age 24
Estimated Birth Year abt 1847
Relationship Wife
Spouse's Name Robert Johnston
Father's Name James Hepbon
Mother's Name Elizabeth Hepbon
Gender Female
Where born N Berwick, hadds
Registration Number 713/1
Registration district North Berwick Burgh
Civil parish North Berwick
Town No Berwick
County East Lothian
Address 14 Harbour Te
ED 2
Household schedule number 180
Line 11
Roll CSSCT1871_173
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Robert Johnston 22 Head
Janet Johnston 24 Wife
Elizabeth Johnston 1 Mo Daughter
James Hepbon 41 Father-in-law
Elizabeth Hepbon 46 Mother-in-law
Martha Hepbon 17 Sister-in-law
Mary Hepbon 15 Sister-in-law
Williamina Hepbon 7 Sister-in-law
William Logar 20 Boarder

Janet Sked was also Janet Johnstone


DEATH

JOHNSTONE
JANET
63
KELLY
F
1910
713 / 28
North Berwick


so her marriage


First name(s) Janet
Country Scotland
Last name Sked
Spouse's first name(s) Robert
Marriage year 1869
Spouse's last name Johnston
Marriage date 29 Oct 1869
Record set Scotland, Modern And Civil Marriages 1855-2019
Marriage place North Berwick,East Lothian,Scotland
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Kelly, it's fine, honestly. ArgyllGran and I are not spending any credits finding information for you.
We both have subscriptions to either ancestry or fmp and scotlandspeople is quite easy to use when you have used it as much as we have :-D you pay to see certificates which you need to do at times and they usuall provide a lot of information you do not get from free searches.

Janet Sked

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Harbour Terrace, North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Household members (7 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Johnston Head
Married Male 32 1849 Fisherman Gifford, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Janet Johnston Wife
Married Female 34 1847 - North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
John Johnston Son
- Male 8 1873 Scholar North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Robert Johnston Son
- Male 6 1875 Scholar North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
George Johnston Son
- Male 3 1878 - North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Elizabeth Johnston Daughter
- Female 10 1871 Scholar North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland
Martha Hepburn Sister-in-law
Unmarried Female 27 1854 Servant North Berwick, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland


Her marriage certificate should show you her parents.

Really must go now :-D :-D

You're welcome, Kelly!

Alviegal's correct.
We're not spending anything more than our already very well used subs to Ancestry or FMP!

Re Janet's marriage cert -
yes, it will show you her parents - but she may have named James Hepburn as her father, as he would be the only father she had known, having been her step-father since she was 8.

I very much doubt it will name her actual father.

My guess would be that he's one of the sons of this family. It seems to be the only family of Skeds in North Berwick in 1851.:

Alison Sked
in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name Alison Sked
Age 55
Estimated Birth Year abt 1796
Relationship [Head]
Gender Male [Female on image]
Where born Coldingham, Berwickshire
Parish Number 713
Civil parish North Berwick
Town North Berwick
County East Lothian
Address West Gate
Occupation Laundress
ED 3
Page 18
Household schedule number 96
Line 1
Roll CSSCT1851_193
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Alison Sked 55 Head - laundress
Thomas Sked 27 Son - engineer
Elizabeth Sked 25 Daughter - dressmaker
George Sked 22 Son - labourer
Mary Sked 20 Daughter - dressmaker
Peter Sked 18 Son - flesher
Robert Sked 16 Son - tailor's apprentice
Agnes Brodie 9 Grandaughter (Granddaughter)

You two are the nicest ladies

1841
So Elizabeth eldest daughter to James Kelly and his wife Janet Kelly nee Hogg
Got pregnant ( Unmarried ) at age 24 and had a daughter Janet Skead in Canty Bay

Head of House – James Kelly- Keeper of Bass Rock died 1849

1851 - Family moved to North Berwick Elizabeth - unmarried
1861 - Elizabeth ( Mum) not there and Nanny Janet is a pauper
1871 - Head _ Robert - 1844 -Youngest son of James and Janet Hogg has 3 Marys under his roof. Wife - Mary Kelly nee Livingstone 1848. Daughter - Mary 1870. Mother in Law - Widow -1815
1881 - Robert now has a wife called Margaret? ( Not sure of maiden name) and children: Mary, James, Janet & Catherine ( Possibly Our Mysterious Aunt Kate )
1891 - Robert now no wife with children: Mary, James, Janet & Catherine
1901 - Married now to a Mary again - Is this the same woman ?) and children: Mary, James, Janet & Catherine

I don't think Catherine Kelly born 1881 ever got married or had children - Do we know when she died?