Re Caroline and William Jennings:
Caroline Jennings in the 1871 England Census Name: Caroline Jennings Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William Jennings Gender: Female Where born: Wavendon, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Wavendon Town: Wavendon County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Newport Pagnell Sub-registration district: Fenny Stratford ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Household schedule number: 63 Piece: 1418 Folio: 146 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age William Jennings 28 Caroline Jennings 25 George F Jennings 2 Sarah J Jennings
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Name: Caroline Goodall Gender: Female Christening Date: 16 Nov 1845 Christening Date (Original): 16 NOV 1845 Christening Place: WAVENDON,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND Father's Name: Joseph Goodall Mother's Name: Pauline
Caroline Goodhall in the 1851 England Census Name: Caroline Goodhall Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Joseph Goodhall Mother's name: Paullua Goodhall Gender: Female Where born: Wavendon, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Wavendon Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Newport Pagnell Sub-registration district: Fenny Stratford ED, institution, or vessel: 12a Neighbors: Household schedule number: 6 Piece: 1723 Folio: 203 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Goodhall 54 Paullua Goodhall 46 - Salford, Beds. John Goodhall 20 Sheba Goodhall 9 Caroline Goodhall 5 Jane Goodhall 3
Susanna's mother was Mary, as posted earlier.
Possibly Caroline was a half-sister, from an earlier marriage of Joseph ??
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Well, no, not an earlier marriage. Joseph married Paulina in 1824:
Pauline Cooke in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Pauline Cooke Gender: Female Marriage Date: 30 Nov 1824 Marriage Place: Salford, Bedford, England Spouse: Joseph Goodall FHL Film Number: 1066950 Reference ID: item 2 p 34
So Susanna and Caroline are children of two different Josephs.
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I think the death for Susanna Murden is the lady that married George Goodhall.
If Caroline lists herself as Susanna's sister, I think there must be some family connection. I also think it likely that they were both born to the same Joseph.
It's a shame I can't see an original of Susanna's baptism. I cannot see a marriage between a Joseph Goodhall and Mary that would fit. I also don't see any other baptism in Wavendon with father Joseph and mother Mary. ---------------------
There are a few oddities within the family. This is them in 1841:
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Church End, Wavendon, Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire, England
Joseph Goodall Male 35 1806 Buckinghamshire, England Paulliner Goodall Female 33 1808 Buckinghamshire, England John Goodall Male 8 1833 Buckinghamshire, England Sarah Goodall Female 3 1838 Buckinghamshire, England Thomas Goodall Male 1 1840 Buckinghamshire, England
Births: GOODHALL, SARAH COOKE GRO Reference: 1837 S Quarter in NEWPORT PAGNELL UNION Volume 06 Page 275 (likey death for this Sarah in 1845 aged 8)
GOODHALL, THOMAS COOKE GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in NEWPORT PAGNEL UNION Volume 06 Page 389 (likely death for Thomas in 1845 aged 5) --------------------------
There is no Susanna with them in 1841- although she could've been in service or living with a relative.
Same family in 1851:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Wavendon, Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire, England
Joseph Goodhall Head Married Male 54 1797 Labor Wavendon, Buckingham Paullna Goodhall Wife Married Female 46 1805 Lace Maker Salford, Bedfordshire, John Goodhall Son Single Male 20 1831 Labor Wavendon, Buckingham Sheba Goodhall Daughter Single Female 9 1842 Lacemaker Wavendon, Buckingham Caroline Goodhall Daughter Single Female 5 1846 Schollar Wavendon, Buckingham Jane Goodhall Daughter Single Female 3 1848 Schollar Wavendon, Buckingham
Births: GOODHALL, SHABIE COOKE GRO Reference: 1842 D Quarter in NEWPORT PAGNEL UNION Volume 06 Page 356
GOODHALL, JANE COOKE GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in NEWPORT PAGNELL UNION Volume 06 Page 379 ----------------------------
Now- there are these births:
GOODHALL, SARAH COOKE GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in NEWPORT PAGNELL UNION Volume 06 Page 350
GOODHALL, CAROLINE (no mother;s maiden name listed) GRO Reference: 1844 D Quarter in NEWPORT PAGNEL UNION Volume 06 Page 367 -----------------------------
I see a baptism for Caroline, but not for Sarah?
But there is this possible child Sarah, in the union workhouse
Name: Sarah Goodhall Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Inmate Gender: Female Where born: Wavendon, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Newport Pagnell County/Island: Buckinghamshire Registration district: Newport Pagnell Sub-registration district: Fenny Stratford ED, institution, or vessel: Newport Pagnell Union Workhouse
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Probably Susan(na) in 1851 - apologies if already posted:
Susan Goodhall in the 1851 England Census Name: Susan Goodhall Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Wavendon, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Hampstead County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Hampstead Sub-registration district: Hampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 02 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 13 Piece: 1492 Folio: 32 Page Number: 5
I can't see her in 1841 so far.
I agree with your last post, AQ, though hadn't delved as far as you have.
It could well be that "Mary" is a mistake on either Susanna's birth record, or the transcription.
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Thanks All.
I wonder if some of them may be using their middle names on census and official name on birth, marriage death?
Austin Q previously posted the following as probable marriage of Susanna to Samuel Murden in Chatham ( an army town I believe):
Name: Samuel Murden Registration Year: 1855 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Medway Inferred County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 315 Mary Ann Goodwin Susan Maria Goodwin<<<<<<<<<<< James Griffiths Samuel Murden <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Who would Mary Ann be? A witness? If so, probably another sister?
Has anyone seen a Mary Ann Goodall with a sister Caroline anywhere?
Also, is the middle name a clue also?
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Also, the witnesses to the marriage of Susanna Goodall to George Goodall in Wavendon in 1846 were David Billington or Willington and Mary Cook.
The Cook/ Cooke name is definitely linked somehow...
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Hi Clive,
I had the same thought as you when I looked at the marriages- thinking that perhaps Mary Ann Goodwin was related.
However, I don't see any connection and wonder if Susanna simply took rthe surname of Mary Ann to cover her already married status:
Name: Mary Ann Goodwin Gender: Female Marriage Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1833 Marriage Date: 19 Feb 1855 Marriage Place: Chatham, St Mary, Kent, England Father: Joseph Goodwin Spouse: James Griffiths -------------------------------------
Mary Ann in 1851:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Higgins Yard, Chatham, Medway, Kent, England Joseph Goodwin Head Married Male 50 1801 Bricklayer Sheerness, Kent, Eliza Goodwin Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Sheerness, Kent, Mary Ann Goodwin Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 - Chatham, Kent, -----------------------
Mary Ann with husband in 1861:
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census 16, Hope Street, Minster, Sheppey, Kent, England James Griffiths Head Married Male 29 1832 Shipwrights Sheerness, Kent, Mary A Griffiths Wife Married Female 28 1833 - Chatham, Kent, Eliza A Griffiths Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Sheerness, Kent, James G Griffiths Son - Male 2 1859 - Sheerness, Kent, Louisa R Griffiths Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Sheerness, Kent,
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