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can someone kindly help in sourcing info on frederick smith -limehouse stepney 1860? no name for wife! 1 child louisa 1900 ,
frederick was a lighterman in 1918 ! louisa was my grandmother ,on her marriage certificate in 1918 a witness was albert smith ,poss a brother ? 1911 census may help ? many thanks

Christopher, have you found him in any other census? It's just that there's a huge number of possibles in the 1911.

Where were they living on Louisa's marriage certificate?

Household information
Address 83 Eastfield St Limehouse
Parish Limehouse
Town Limehouse
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 4
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN1550 RG78PN55 RD20 SD2 ED3 SN99
Administrative County London
Registration District Stepney
Registration Sub District Limehouse
Enumeration District 3
Householder 1

Name Frederick Smith
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 49
Estimated Year of Birth 1862
Occupation Corn Porter Docks
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth London Stepney
Householder 2

Name Sarah Smith
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 28 Years
Total Children Born Alive 10
Children Still Living 7
Children Who Have Died 3
Gender F
Age 48
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth London Stepney
Householder 3

Name James Smith
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender M
Age 24
Estimated Year of Birth 1887
Occupation Wood Sawyer
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Sawmills
Place of Birth London Stepney
Householder 4

Name Sarah Smith
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1892
Occupation Chocolate Wrapper
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Cocoa Factory
Place of Birth London Stepney
Householder 5

Name Emma Smith
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1897
Occupation Chocolate Wrapper
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Cocoa Factory
Place of Birth London Stepney
Householder 6

Name Benjamin Smith
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1898
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth London Stepney
Householder 7

Name Louie Smith
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1900
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth London Stepney
Householder 8

Name Albert Smith
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1902
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth London Limehouse

Possible ???


Marriages Jun 1884 (>99%)
MEAKIN Joseph Stepney 1c 814
Oakes Emma Mary Stepney 1c 814
Perry Sarah Stepney 1c 814
Smith Frederick Stepney 1c 814

Is this him ?

Household:1881

Sophia SMITH Head W Female 47 London, Middlesex, England
Fredrick SMITH Son U Male 21 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Fireman
Charles SMITH Son Male 16 London, Middlesex, England Labourer
Henry SMITH Son Male 13 Poplar, Middlesex, England
Edward SMITH Son Male 10 Poplar, Middlesex, England
Sophia SMITH Daur Female 7 Poplar, Middlesex, England
John SMITH Son Male 4 Poplar, Middlesex, England


Dwelling 36 Cottage Street
Census Place London, Middlesex, England

1901 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

SMITH, Frederick Head Married M 41 1860 Dock Laborer
Limehouse
London VIEW
SMITH, Sarah Wife Married F 37 1864
Limehouse
London VIEW
SMITH, James Son Single M 14 1887 Tobacconists Assistant
Limehouse
London VIEW
SMITH, William Son Single M 11 1890
Limehouse
London VIEW
SMITH, Sarah Daughter Single F 8 1893
Stepney
London VIEW
SMITH, Emma Daughter Single F 4 1897
Stepney
London VIEW
SMITH, Benjamin Son Single M 3 1898
Stepney
London VIEW
SMITH, Louise Daughter Single F 0 (11 MOS) 1901
Limehouse
London VIEW

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
320 Folio:
46 Page:
31

Registration District:
Stepney Sub District:
Limehouse Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Johns

Civil Parish:
Limehouse Municipal Borough:
Address:
56, Eastfield Street, Limehouse County:
London

1901 Census

Chris :)

hi the address given on marriage certificate is 57 bancroft road i beleive was in poplar ,

my grandmother louisa smith married thomas samuel reed 1918 stepney ,address given for both on marriage certificate was 57 bancroft road , witness albert smith,i am trying to link louisa and her father frederick to this address , could be wrong , thomas ocupation given as soldier in 1918 ,frederick lighterman, if i knew louisa mothers name i could make the link , ive checked birth records for louisa but so many smiths born 1900 with father as frederick , how can i check electoral rolls around 1918 onwards , any help would be kindly appreciated

Name: Frederick Smith >>>>carman
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Spouse Name: Sariah Perry
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 17 Jun 1884
Parish: St John, Limehouse Fields
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Samuel Smith

I think you will find Bancroft Road is in Mile End and they were not there in 1911

1911?
SMITH, Frederick Head Married M 49 1862 Corn Porter Docks London Stepney
SMITH, Sarah Wife Married 28 years F 48 1863 London Stepney
SMITH, James Son Single M 24 1887 Wood Sawyer London Stepney
SMITH, Sarah Daughter Single F 19 1892 Chocolate Wrapper London Stepney
SMITH, Emma Daughter F 14 1897 Chocolate Wrapper London Stepney
SMITH, Benjamin Son M 13 1898 School London Stepney
SMITH, Louie Daughter F 11 1900 School London Stepney
SMITH, Albert Son M 9 1902 London Limehouse

RG14PN1550 RG78PN55 RD20 SD2 ED3 SN99

Registration District:
Stepney Sub District:
Limehouse Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Limehouse

Address:
83 Eastfield St Limehouse County:
London

Dea x

EDIT - Sorry Jane,

The layout you posted above is very different and I have only just realised it was the 1911.....Oooppps !!

Dea x

Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
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.Smith Louie Stepney 1c 409


looks like her name was not louisa ??

Frederick smith could not write as his mark is on the 1911 census also the marriage cert also has his mark, so looks promising

jax

But Frederick is not a lighter man.

Maybe Rambling Rose can hep?
She has lightermenand watermen records.

Can we get electoral rolls for that adress to check on other family members?

ooh that was funny, I just got an urge to look at this thread and there's my name lol

Very true LK but on the 1911 he worked on the docks and maybe Lighterman sounded better than porter?

jax

Does louisa have a middle name?

Any other siblings?

So far we do not know where they were born

just where they lived in 1918.

They could have been anywhere 1911.

It would be too easy to follow the wrong Smith.

See it was meant to be RR

Your ears were burning?

Who did she marry and when did she die? Ooops sorry you said who she married

jax

lol LadyK only bit of me that is, just put heating on!

will read back