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yes it is the same address, 139 row yarmouth, thanks will take a look, suzi

I looked through 42 pages of a census this morning for Yarmouth because I saw a Sarh Lark but it was all Market Square and St Nicholas rd. Now I have seen Christines post Joseph Lark 1814 is on the 1861 census with a lot of his children but no Frederick. I wonder if he was the love begot child of one of his daughters???

Forgot to say he is living at 5 yard Row 139.

1861 England Census
about Joseph Lark
Name: Joseph Lark
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Great Yarmouth St Nicholas
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
Town: Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Southern
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 124
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Lark 47
Maria Lark 33
Joseph Lark 20
Maria Lark 18
Elizabeth Lark 16
Hannah Lark 20
Amelia Lark 7
Walter Lark 3
William Lark 13
James Lark 8 Mo

RG9; Piece: 1191; Folio: 41; Page: 25

I have now gone through the 35 pages of the 1871 census where Joseph and family are. there is only one Elizabeth possibly Read and she is old and a widow. Joseph seems to be the only Lark on there.

Joseph's marriage

JOSEPH LARK Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: MARIA COLLINS Family
Marriage: 23 NOV 1840 St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

It's very strange isn't it?

Could the birth cert be wrong as Suzi said the marriage cert had no father's name on.

Christine

Just thinking Joseph Lark's first son was Joseph about 1841 and there is a marriage in 1863 of a Joseph Lark and then there's a death of a Joseph Lark in 1865. Now there are three womens name on the marriage but we don't know which one he might have married.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Joseph Lark
Name: Joseph Lark
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Yarmouth (1837-1924)
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 8

Mary Canham 1863 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

Edward Daniels 1863 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

Martha Gibbs 1863 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

Joseph Lark 1863 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

Elizabeth Ulph 1863 Yarmouth (1837-1924) Norfolk

There is also a mans name missing from that record above.

But what if Joseph died in 1865 the year we think Frederick was born and then his mum remarried. Fred could be put down as the new fathers name.

thanks for everyones help :O)
i was thinking the same, could frederick be the son of a Elizabeth Lark(josephs daughter)????
there is definatley no marriage for a george lark and a elizabeth read(even if they are not fredericks parents)
well maybe it is not meant to be solved, still going to search tho. thanks again, suzi.

mel going to look into your last post! suzi