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Oh dear v sorry about that typo Derek - should have been 1817 of course. The other aspect which is currently fascinating me is if there could be a link between Sapphira (sometimes Sophia) Holmes, second wife of William Hanson b 1817 and married to him on 16.8.1856 and Emma Holmes who married Sapphira's stepson William Hanson b 1845. Searches for Sapphira and Emma Holmes have yielded nothing so far.

Many thanks for your help.

Hi Derek - Many thanks. I have just received this from Patchem on another thread which indicates an earlier marriage for Sapphira

This marriage, from ancestry:
Sapphira Holmes [Sapphira Palmer]
Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Birth Date: 1817
Marriage Date: 16 Aug 1856
Marriage Place: St Laurance, Heanor, Derbyshire, England
Marriage Age: 39
Father: Andrew Palmer
Spouse: William Hanson
FHL Film Number: 2104172

thanks Derek

when you ar able

it is either a famin or a feast :-D :-D :-D

sally w <3

HI Derek
I'm trying to establish a familial link between Joseph Bradley 1859 and John Bradley 1834. The only time I find them together is in the 1861 census, however, for some reason the family seems to live part a lot and therefore that may be the reason they don't come together again. Also, Joseph doesn't appear with his mother again either. In 1881 Joseph is cited as being from 'Nottinghamshire' but I think this is because he is in the middle of there and Derbyshire. Is mother is Catharine Bradley nee Abbot. At each cenus Joseph is cited as coming from - Codnor, Selby, Nottinghamshire, Ironville so Im tring to make sure Im tracking the right one! I have 'his' birth certificate that states that his grandfather is George Bradley - born Nottinghamshire. He had several siblings over the years but only ever lived at census time with the 1861 ones. His mother for some reason in 1871 is in Sheffield with a daughter name Ameria - which I think may have been Amelia Annie as that is the only possible birth in Sheffield at that time and later as she is older she is back in Derbyshire living with her brother Christopher who the year before was in the workhouse. My concern is that my Joseph Bradley 1859 - who settled and died in Middlesbrough is NOT the son of John and grandson of George and that Im following the branch. Any chance you may have any parish records that could corroborate any of the links? Thanks in advance Kate x

Hi Sally.this is a bit of a disaster.........I cannot find a marriage of William Purdy to Jane..........though a few Ancestry Familytrees give her name as Jane Chapman..but whoever was the original contributor (the rest have all been copied without any research) he or she has no evidence or Source for such a marriage.......

The seven children of William and Jane are fine.......all the same family..from Mapperley, Kirk Hallam.

I have the baptism dates if you want them..from the Kitk Hallam Parish Records...

Derek.

hello Derek

yes please

I wish these ancesters had given middle names it would make life easear

your magic is working again thank you

sally w <3

Hello Derek - Just noticed another peculiarity on the 1851 census records for William Hanson b 1817 and his clan living at Woodend. Elizabeth Frost b 1839 in Heanor is shown as daughter-in-law which I initially thought meant sister-in-law but now on reflection seems to imply step daughter.

Hi Derek Just wondering if you found out if my bacon family were related. If you remember I pm you by accident and opened my tree for you to see all the Bacon clan I had. I'm back from holiday now.

Thank you :-)

Sorry to keep you waiting folks, but have a hellish few days of illness..nothing serious, just nasty...but will be back with you in no time at all.

Derek.

V sorry to hear that Derek and do hope you feel much better soon. :-)

hi derek
looking for a baptism of a mary ann aldred ilkeston derbyshire about 1837

not sure if i have asked before

take care
lorraine

Hi Lorraine.......Ilkeston St Mary...MARY ANN ALDRED baptised 14.10.1832..daughter of Joseph and Ann..(Joseph was a Lacemaker)

But you'll have the Devil's own job finding her unless you know the following:-

Joseph Aldred married ANN JACKSON 04.03 1828..and had four children..but by 1851 he was dead, and Ann had remarried to a William Straw,who himself brought five children to his second marriage

Derek.

hi derek
well that could be her or not

on marys marriage cert to henry kirk she names her father as henry aldred

thank you very much
lorraine <3

edit can you find a baptism for a matilds aldred and a jemima aldred mother name ann

dont know fathers name

Hi Derek,

Hope you're feeling better.

Could you please help me with the location of Thomas Wilde Chappell's marriage to Elizabeth Bagshaw please. It took place in Chesterfield district in Sept q 1851.

Thank you

Chrissie

Hi Derek - Here's another puzzle. I have been researching a family called Coop or Coup or Coupe or in fact Doupe on the 1851 Census. John Doupe (actually Coop, Coup or Coope) b 1798 is shown as being born in Brekinone in Derbyshire. Does this place exist or is it a spelling error? I am also curious about Sarah Grason b 1776 in Braithwell Yorkshire. She is 75 at this stage but is shown as Head of the Household and her occupation listed as Pauper. Does this mean she would be on a parish benefit?

Thanks for any help.

Hello Chrissie.......I cannot find this marriage anywhere.....which means ony one thing..It was not a Church Marriage......something that can only be confirmed, or denied, by purchase of the Marriage Certificate......

Derek.

Hi Derek,

Thank you so much for taking the time and trouble to look for me.

Regards

Chrissie x

Hi Derek,

Finally found the marriage on FMP. I really don't like using FMP since they've changed the site, don't find it at all user friendly.

You were right, they didn't marry in church it was Chesterfield Register office.

Chrissie x

well done Chrissie..........if you need to use FMP, and can't find your way around the new system......just ask me.

derek

Hi Tui........Brekinone is a mistranscription.......but t written so clearly on the Census that I can't get a clue as to where it might be.....the obvious is Bakewell..but that doesn't work......I have found some evidence that it might be Scarcliffe??????????