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Mason

Mason Report 8 Apr 2010 08:01

Hi Lorraine
I am looking for any family of Vincent Brown born 1895 in Glemsford Suffolk England, he was my grandfathers brother. They both went to Canada in March 1912, on the ship Victorian, from Liverpool to Halifax, Nova Scotia Roll; T-4742. My grandfather returned to England at the outbreak of the 1914-1918 war, Vincent Brown joined the Canadian Army
Reg; Number 3112554 this is from Ancestery transcrips. He was a resident in Milton, West, Ontario if this is of any help. After the the first world war he is on record as travelling to the U.S.A, Border Crossings
from Canada to the U.S. Arrival August 1919 to Island Pond, Vermont U.S.A. no further sites of him after this. Although my family think he returned to Canada as in the mid; 1970 my mother had news of a small inheritance, Could you please search records to see if he ever married or had any family
had andfamily THANKS EVE MASON

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 21 Apr 2010 16:07

Mason

just to confirm I have the right vincent

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
about Vincent Brown
Name: Vincent Brown
Residence: Milton, West, Ontario
Birth Date: 28 Mar 1895
Birth Location: Glemsford, Suffolk, England
Relative: Mrs Annie Black
Relationship: Sister
Regiment Number: 311755

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Vincent Brown
Name: Vincent Brown
Arrival Date: Aug 1919
Age: 24
Birth Date: abt 1895
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English

Port of Arrival: Island Pond, Vermont, USA

occupation soldier
going to visit aunt mrs w taylor, weymouth us
final destination shelburn new hampshire

this is a possible for him on the 1920 usa

1920 United States Federal Census
about Vincent J Brown
Name: Vincent J Brown
Home in 1920: Shelburne, Coos, New Hampshire
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Myrtle B
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1911
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 413
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Vincent J Brown 24
Myrtle B Brown 25
Gertrude H Brown 1

1930 United States Federal Census
about Vincent J Brown
Name: Vincent J Brown
Home in 1930: Gilead, Oxford, Maine
View Map
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Myrtle
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Vincent J Brown 34
Myrtle Brown 36
Gertrude H Brown 12
Vivian J Brown 9
Elizabeth E Brown 8
Verna A Brown 6
Barbara A Brown 5

occupation works in a bobbin mill
wife born massachuesetts
all children born new hampshire
exept for youngest barbara born maine

i cant find a marriage or death for him though nor any records of him returning to canada





Jean

Jean Report 21 Apr 2010 20:38

Hi Lorraine,
I wonder if you could find Henry Moore d.o.b.1860 in Glasgow on the u.s.passenger list please.
Also if possible Stewart Moore on any canadian census, his d.o.b.c 1860.
Any information on either of them would be great,
Many thanks
jean

Carol

Carol Report 22 Apr 2010 13:49

Hi Lorraine,
I am looking for a probable Birth of Arthur Gater born abt 1878.
He was on the 1901 English Census in Birmingham which says he was
born in Birmingham.I cannot find a Birth for him or his family.
Arthur`s father was Frederick a Plumber but i can`t find him.
So i thought maybe they were born in America.
I found Arthur on the Ellis Island site in 1910 going to see his Brother-
in-law at 55 Myrtle Street , Bloomfield,New Jersey.
It also says Arthur lived there prior to 1910 for 15 years that is why i think
Arthur may heve been born there.
If you can help i would be very grateful.
Thankyou
Carol

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 22 Apr 2010 18:41

JEAN

I cant find a henry moore born scotland going to either canada or usa but his nationality maybe wrongly recorded what is the last census you have of him so i can narrow down the years of searching also was he married before he emigrated and can I have his parents names please

i have found this henry right year of birth on census in usa

1910 United States Federal Census
about Henry Moore
Name: Henry Moore
Age in 1910: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Home in 1910: Lower Running Creek, Elbert, Colorado
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1888
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Moore 50


occupation farmer


for stewart have found this

Name: Stewart Moore
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Date of Arrival: 14 Jun 1882
Vessel: Manitoban
Search Ship Database: View the 'Manitoban' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland; Londonderry, Ireland
Roll: C-4531

also travelling with him a
ja moore (male) aged 11

unfortuantly no other details on the record

thanks

lorraine

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 22 Apr 2010 19:02

hi carol

having trouble finding you arthur, do you know his mothers name and do you have him on the uk 1901 census I have looked for him on the 1900 usa and not found him nor on any passenger lists incoming to uk.


also his sisters name if she emigrated to usa I may be able to find her on a census and that will tell me her place of birth which would be useful


thanks

lorraine

Jean

Jean Report 22 Apr 2010 20:19

Hi Lorraine.

The last census I have Henry Moore is the 1891 living with his parents and siblings.
His parents are Henry and Margaret nee Stewart.
I have not been able to find a marriage or death for him in Scotland.
His d.o.b. is 1860 in Hutchesenton, Glasgow.
Many thanks
jean
SORRY THAT SHOULD BE THE 1881 CENSUS.
1st one looks quite promising , don't think the 2nd one is mine

Lorraine,
My Henry's father was Irish, mother Scottish
cheers
jean

Carol

Carol Report 22 Apr 2010 20:58

Hi Lorraine,
I have Arthur Gater on the 1901uk Census with his wife Beatrice.
He went to America in 1910 according to the Ellis Island site,prior to that
had lived in America for 15 years,so must have been before 1901.
As i can account for him after that..
There is no Birth for him in Birmingham,so i don`t know who is siblings
were or his mother.
I know his father was Frederick and a plumber through Arthur`s
marriage certificate.
A witness on marriage certificate in 1898 was Ada Gater whether
sibling i don`t know.
One of his sister`s must have lived in America but who she is i don`t know.
Arthur`s Brother-in-law name i am not sure .on the passenger list
in 1910 it is not very clear ,it could be H,Dunn,H,Driver or H,Quinn he
lived at 55 Mrytle Street,Bloomfied,New Jersey.
I know it is very complicated,that is why i am struggling with it.
carol

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 25 Apr 2010 16:42

carol

just to confirm right arthur

1901 England Census
about Arthur Gater
Name: Arthur Gater
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Beatrice
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Edward
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Gater 23
Beatrice Gater 24
Earnest Gater 9 months


i have found beatrice and the children in 1911 arthurs name is listed then crossed out and place of birth for arthur says america
and his occupation was cycle fitter and they had been married for 13 years
it also says arthurs present occupation is in america

Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born: Report error View Original Page
GATER, BEATRICE WIFE MARRIED F 35 POLISHER BRASS ST GEORGE BIRMINGHAM
GATER, ARTHUR SON M 12 ST MARYS BIRMINGHAM
GATER, ERNEST SON M 11 ST MARYS BIRMINGHAM
GATER, BEATRICE DAUGHTER F 9 ST STEAVENS CB
GATER, EDWIN BERTY SON M 8 ST MARYS CB
GATER, HELMANIA DAUGHTER F 6 ST MARYS CB
GATER, FREDERICK JOHN SON M 5 ST MATTHAS CB
GATER, MADGLINDA DAUGHTER F 3 ST STEAVENS CB
GATER, JESSIE DAUGHTER F 2 ST STEAVENS C


found the entry on ellis island of his immigration and brother in laws surname is dunn

this is him on 1910 census

1910 United States Federal Census
about Henry Dunn
Name: Henry Dunn
Age in 1910: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Spouse's name: Kate
Home in 1910: Bloomfield Ward 3, Essex, New Jersey
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1902
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Dunn 28
Kate Dunn 28
Henry Dunn 7
James Dunn 5
Frederick Dunn 3
James Call 26
James Grant 24
John Owin 23


kate born england



Carol

Carol Report 25 Apr 2010 21:47

Hi Lorraine,
Thankyou very much for what you found i am so grateful.
So Kate Dunn is probably Kate Gater or Catherine and born in England.
I can`t understand where the parents are though.
Never mind i appreciate what you have found.
Many Thanks
Carol

Carol

Carol Report 26 Apr 2010 13:41

Hi Lorraine,
The only marriage i could find in England for Henry Dunn was in 1900
to Kate Hodson ( Catherine ).So i can`t understand it now.
They are also on the 1908 Ellis Site passenger list and living
at 64 Blake St,Bloomfield,New Jersey.
The address Arthur Gater went to was 55 Myrtle Street,Bloomfield.
Carol
Carol

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 28 Apr 2010 23:04

hi carol

they mave have married in usa not uk, or could kate be arthur wifes sister? or henry her brother what was arthurs wifes maiden name

Carol

Carol Report 28 Apr 2010 23:23

Hi Lorraine,
I never thought of that,Arthurs wife`s name was Beatrice Foley.
Carol

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 29 Apr 2010 18:59

i cant find a marriage for kate and henry in usa but the records are not extensive like uk

I think we need to find arthur and his family pre marriage to beatrice in a census with his family in uk i will see what i can find

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 29 Apr 2010 19:13

carol

not having much luck here with arthur on a census

have found one of the births of his children picked this as it is such as an unusual name


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Madglindia Gater
Name: Madglindia Gater
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 135



wonder if its worth sending for her marriage cert it should say if father deceased or not and maybe worth looking for a death and working backwards

just found a tree on ancestry that says her father was arthur g f gater any idea what the g f is?

Carol

Carol Report 29 Apr 2010 21:09

Hi Lorraine,
Sorry i don`t know what the g f stands for.
I have the marriage certificate for Arthur and Beatrice.
Arthur`s father was Frederick a Plumber and it does not say he was deceased.
There was a witness Ada Gater.
The only Ada i could find in Birmingham was on the 1891 census
born 1876 and a sister Marion F Gater born1881.
There mother Hannah was a Widow,but i can`t find a marriage for
Hannah.

Carol

PriscillaEmilywasMoonbeam

PriscillaEmilywasMoonbeam Report 30 Apr 2010 19:57

Hi Lorraine

Would you be able to do a look up for a George Michael Vockenson on the 1790 US Census please. I believe him to be either the brother or son of my ancestor Martin Vockenson but have not been able to find birth records for either of them. George Michael married Mary Drummer in 1772 in London, England and had four daughters born between 1776 and 1781 according to the IGI records.

When I did a Google search this is what came up, showing a George Michael living in Philadelphia in 1791.

St. John Street
(1791) #67 St. John's St., Vockenson, George Michael, Sugar refiner (1791) #73 St. John's St., Huhn, John, weaver (1791) #75 St. John's St., Huhn, Daniel, ...
mysite.verizon.net

I did find the 1790 Census on Ancestry but as I do not have a World Sub I'm not able to look at the record.

I would really appreciate it if you could check this record for me.

Thanks.

Marie.

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 6 May 2010 13:24

maria

found the following for george


(City,County,State) Number of Free White Males Under 16 Number of Free White Males 16 and Over Number of Free White Females Number of All Other Free Persons Number of Slaves Number of Household Members View
Census
View Record
George M Vockenson Northern Liberties, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1 1 6 8


doesnt give any other info though it doesnt list who he is living with and i cant see any other vockenson family members on the list

the only other thing I could find for him

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about George Michael Vockenson
Name: George Michael Vockenson
Spouse Name: Mary Drummer
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 10 Jul 1772
Parish: St Andrew by the Wardrobe
County: London
Borough: City of London

one of the witnessess was a martin vockenson

there is a marriage for a martin

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Martin Vockenson
Name: Martin Vockenson
Spouse Name: Dorothy Gilbert
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 18 Jan 1757
Parish: St Andrew by the Wardrobe
County: London
Borough: City of London

her surname should read gibbert not gilbert

PriscillaEmilywasMoonbeam

PriscillaEmilywasMoonbeam Report 6 May 2010 14:58

Lorraine

Thanks so much for looking up the US census for George Vockenson. I was hoping it would give a bit more information.

I do have the other records you mentioned. Martin Vockenson I believe to be my ggg grandfather but can't find what connection he is to George. Appear to be family members - I see that a sister to Mary Drummer, George's wife was a witness to the marriage of Martin's daughter Maria.

Not a very common name but have come across various spellings of the name - probably due to mistranscription. Will haver to keep looking.

Again thanks very much for doing the look-up. It's appreciated.

Marie.

Mason

Mason Report 7 May 2010 11:16

HI Lorraine
Thanks for all your help you are a star. I have wondered for a long time the were abouts of my great uncel Vincent Brown who went to Canada 1911, Do you think the death or marriage records would be easy to track down? So I do have some relations in the U.S. How do I search for them?
Thanks for all your help, if you have any more time to search I would be very greatfull.
Regards Eve Mason