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dodsy

dodsy Report 13 Feb 2010 16:18

Hello Lorraine could you possibly try and locate this family for me in USA.

George Maitland Paterson born 1870 Gibraltar
Mary Elizabeth Paterson born 1873 Newcastle England
Ella Maitland Paterson born 1898 Newcastle
George William Paterson born 1904 Newcastle

I know they did live in Tacoma Washington State at one time.

Have not been able to find them on a passenger list.

Can't find them on 1911 census in England

Many thanks

Wendy


Lorraine

Lorraine Report 13 Feb 2010 23:13

Hi Wendy

found the following on george and his family

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about George Maitland Paterson
Name: George Maitland Paterson
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10b
Page: 152

Mary Elizabeth Paterson

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about George Maitland Paterson
Name: George Maitland Paterson
Arrival Date: 15 May 1917
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Age: 46 Years 6 Months
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ethnicity/RaceĀ­/Nationality: English
Ship Name: Carmania
Search Ship Database: View the Carmania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Gibraltar
Line: 3
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_2523
Birth Location: Gibraltar
Page Number: 118


part of the crew
occupation marine engineer
next of kin
wife m paterson
address 13 ashburn gardens greenock scotland

U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1795-1972
about Ella Maitland Paterson
Name: Ella Maitland Paterson
[Ella Maitland Blair]
Age: 53
Birth Date: 24 Feb 1898
Birth Location: New Castle Upon Tyne, Great Britain
Spouse: Alexander Blair
Children: Alan Malcolm Paterson
Arrival Year: 1920
Issue Date: 17 Dec 1951
State: Washington
Locality, Court: Tacoma, District Court
Title: Naturalization Records of the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Washington, 1890-1957
Description: Declarations of intention, 1949-1957, #12601-12800
Series: M1542

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Ella Maitland Blair
Name: Ella Maitland Blair
Arrival Date: 12 Jul 1920
Age: 22 years 5 months
Birth Date: abt 1898
Birth Country: England
Gender: Female

Ship Name: Corsican
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England

final destination seattle washington, next of kin in home country mr paterson 30 sandyford newcastle
then written in pen above, husband alexander blair greenock scotland

going to visit mother mrs paterson crelet st seatle washington intending to stay for 1 year

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Ella Maitland Blair
Name: Ella Maitland Blair
Arrival Date: 12 Jul 1920
Age: 22 years 5 months
Birth Date: abt 1898
Birth Country: England
Gender: Female

Ship Name: Corsican
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England

travelling alone

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Mary Paterson
Name: Mary Paterson
Arrival Date: 26 Jul 1924
Age: 51
Birth Date: abt 1873
Birth Country: England
Gender: Female
Race/Nationality: English

Ship Name: Athenia
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland


going to seattle washington
to husband george paterson address 1838 meridian av seattle washington
intending to stay perminatly
next of kin in home country sister mrs jane reid 13 summer hill terr newcastle
previously in usa in 1920 and 1924 travelling alone

1930 United States Federal Census
about Mary E Paterson
Name: Mary E Paterson
Home in 1930: Tacoma, Pierce, Washington
View Map
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: George M
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George M Paterson 59
Mary E Paterson 57

georges occupation marine engineer year of immigration 1914
marys year of immigration 1920

i cant find george or mary on the 1920 though







dodsy

dodsy Report 14 Feb 2010 09:12

Lorraine thank you so much for all the info you found on Paterson family for me, it is very much appreciated.

Regards

Wendy
x

Debbie

Debbie Report 14 Feb 2010 11:46

Hi Lorraine

Please could you look for anything in Candian records for this family

Emily Lilian M Tampion born Croydon 1907

Arthur John Tampion born Croydon 1909

They arrived at St John New Brunswick on 27Th march 1926 with their Mother Emily Nicoll ( Nee Smith ) born 1885 Wantage Oxfordshire.

Also stepfather james Nicholl

Many thanks

Debbie Bennett

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 19 Feb 2010 01:02

debbie

sorry nothing on emily or arthur apart from the passenger lists

canadian records are quite sparce after the census of 1911

sorry

lorraine

Philippa

Philippa Report 19 Feb 2010 08:55

Hi Lorraine, Robert Forrester Mcewen married Mary Sibley Adams on 14 Oct 1874 in Detroit Wayne Michigan.I know about the family that they had. I am looking for information on Marys family. I believe her father was Charles Adams and her mother was Mary Sibley. Mary i think is daughter of Solomon Sibley and Sarah Whittle Sproat.I cannot find Charles and Mary on any census or their marriage. I think Michigan is the place to look. Many thanks Philippa

Janet

Janet Report 19 Feb 2010 13:28

Hi Lorraine
I am wanting marriage information and a date/location of a marriage for two sisters.
The first might be easier.
Ellen Ann Mellor born 12 Mar 1857 in Fulstone Huddersfield
died in Kansas 11 Feb 1945. Married a Joseph Seal c/ 1895 possibly in Kansas.
The second -I have been searching for years.
Emma Mellor born 7th Nov 1855 in Fulstone Huddersfield . Last on an 1871 census in England then disappears off the radar.Believe she went to the USA.Was told that her married name was Duff and that there was a (presumably) daughter called Eva Duff. (This person however had three daughters and lived in Canada. The only reference to the location is in a written letter which states that they lived 500 miles north of Seattle in Washington in the 1980's).I know this is all vague but I have nothing else to go on.-Any info appreciated- Regards Janet

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 19 Feb 2010 16:41

Philippa

did robert and mary come back to uk have found this

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Katherine Sibley McEwen
Name: Katherine Sibley McEwen
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 3 Oct 1875
Father's Name: Robert Forrester McEwen
Mother's Name: Mary Sibley Adam McEwen
Parish: St John the Baptist, Eltham High Street, Woolwich
Borough: Greenwich
County: Kent

do you know roberts and marys dates and places of birth i cant find anything definate on them as yet but if i can narrow it down i may be able to find them

Philippa

Philippa Report 19 Feb 2010 17:11

Hi Lorraine, Yes they came back to England and had 3 children, Katherine Sibley 1875, Alexandrine 1876 and Kenneth Ogilvie 1878.Robert was born in Glasgow Scotland 1836 and I think Mary 1852 in Michigan.The girls emigrated to Detroit in 1895 and became well known artists. Have found them on 1900 and 1910 census living with great aunt Sarah Alexandrine Sibley.It is information on Marys parents i cannot find (census and marriage)Charles Adams and Mary Sibley. Thanks Philippa

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 19 Feb 2010 17:28

janet

have found ellen and her husband on the 1930 census says she married at 29yrs and joseph was 36yrs which would make there marriage around 1885

1930 United States Federal Census
about Ellen Seal
Name: Ellen Seal
Home in 1930: Wakefield, Clay, Kansas
View Map
Age: 74
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: Joseph
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Seal 81
Ellen Seal 74


both born england

joseph emigrated in 1869 and ellen in 1882

1920 United States Federal Census
about Ellen A Seal
Name: Ellen A Seal
Home in 1920: Gill, Clay, Kansas
Age: 62 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: Joseph
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of Immigration: 1882
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 341
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Seal 71
Ellen A Seal 62
Mabel E Buchman 29
William Mellor 7


william mellor is listed as nephew born california says his father is from england and mother new york did ellen have a brother ?

mabel is their daughter born kansas a widow

1900 United States Federal Census
about Ellen A Seal
Name: Ellen A Seal
Home in 1900: Gill, Clay, Kansas
Age: 43
Birth Date: Mar 1857
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1882
Relationship to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 4
Mother: How many children: 4
Spouse's name: Joseph
Marriage Year: 1885
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 15
Residence : Wakefield Town, Clay, Kansas
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Seal 51
Ellen A Seal 43
Henry C Seal 14
Maude A Seal 12
Elisa E Seal 1


all children born kansas


i cant find a marriage for them though

do you know eva duffs date of birth

i have found this as a possible for emma her immigration year is the same as ellens

1911 Census of Canada
about Emma Duff
Name: Emma Duff
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 54
Birth Date: Nov 1857
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Immigration Year: 1882
Tribal: English
Province: Manitoba
District: Marquette
District Number: 19
Sub-District Number: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Duff 51
Emma Duff 54
Walter Duff 24
Louise S Duff 19
Alexander Duff 14
Agnes Duff 19
Charles Miller 27

oldest son was born in england

louise was born ontario
agnes duff is daughter in law born ontario wife of oldest son
charles is a lodger


looks like the right family have found this birth

1891 Census of Canada
about Emma M Duff
Name: Emma M Duff
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 34
Birth Year: abt 1857
Birthplace: England
Religion: Free Church
French Canadian: No
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Province: Ontario
District Number: 54
District: Cardwell
Subdistrict: Caledon
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma M Duff 34
Ellen Duff 5
Walter Duff 3
George Parker 50
Joseph Glasco 29
Frank McGreen 29
Annie Oliver 35





1901 Census of Canada
about Emma Duff
Name: Emma Duff
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 43
Birth Day & Month: 7 Nov
Birth Year: 1857
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Immigration Year: 1883
Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish)
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Presbyterian
Province: British Columbia
District: New Westminster
District Number: 2
Sub-District: Richmond
Sub-District Number: E-3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
H. Duff 40
Emma Duff 43
Helen Duff Duff 15
Sarah L. D. Duff 9
Alexander H. D. Duff 5

oldest daughter born england

1891 Census of Canada
about Emma M Duff
Name: Emma M Duff
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 34
Birth Year: abt 1857
Birthplace: England
Religion: Free Church
French Canadian: No
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Province: Ontario
District Number: 54
District: Cardwell
Subdistrict: Caledon
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma M Duff 34
Ellen Duff 5
Walter Duff 3
George Parker 50
Joseph Glasco 29
Frank McGreen 29
Annie Oliver 35

the bottom 4 are all lodgers


Lorraine

Lorraine Report 19 Feb 2010 17:39

janet continued

have found this birth

Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1909
about Sarah Louisa Duff
Name: Sarah Louisa Duff
Date of Birth: 26 Mar 1892
Gender: Female
Birth County: Peel
Father's Name: Henry Duff
Mother's Name: Emma Miller / looks like meller on the page
Roll Number: MS929_112


the last census with the family on


about Emma Duff
Name: Emma Duff
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 61
Est. Birth Year: 1855
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1887
Home in 1916: 07, Marquette, Manitoba
Address: Manitoba
racial_or_tribal_origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Household Members: Name Age
Harry Duff 58
Emma Duff 61
Alexander Duff 19



Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
about Alexander Henry Duff
Name: Alexander Henry Duff
Residence: Birtle, Manitoba, Canada
Birth Date: 8 Sep 1896
Birth Location: Stonewall, Manitoba, Canada
Relative: Henry Duff
Relationship: Father
Regiment Number: 2382711

now i have just found a tree on ancestry and alexander married an eva winnifred mccaan could she be the eva referred to in the letter, a daughter in law of emmas?

Eva Winnifred McCann Birth
1 AUG 1907 in Birtle, Manitoba Death
30 JAN 1997 in Vancouver

if this all adds up let me know and i will see if i can find anything else on the children canada do have a 50 year rule so there is very little on recent records though

Carole

Carole Report 19 Feb 2010 18:38

Hi Lorraine
I hope you can help.I am looking to see if the following lady emigrated from the UK
born Annie Julie Dowers married W.g.Burt (was 1st wife ) md - 25.12.1898.
in Deptford London
unable to find any UK death records.
born - 1880 - Mold Green Middlesex
I await your reply

Thank you

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 19 Feb 2010 19:43

carole

not sure what you have for annie so will include all i find

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Annie Julia Dowers
Name: Annie Julia Dowers
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Spouse Name: William George Burt
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1898
Parish: St Paul, Deptford
County: Middlesex
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: Albert William Alfred Dowers
Spouse Father Name: Frank Burt

i have found this on the 1901 says she is a wife of a soldier husband is not with her do you have their marriage cert if so what is williams occupation

1901 England Census
about Annie Burt
Name: Annie Burt
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilburn, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Hendon
Ecclesiastical parish: Cricklewood St Peter
Town: Cricklewood
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Hendon
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Burt 20


Lorraine

Lorraine Report 19 Feb 2010 22:41

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Lorraine

Lorraine Report 19 Feb 2010 23:12

phillipa

have found mary and roberts says she was born detroit michigan and was 22 when she married



Groom's name: Robert F. Mcewen
Groom's race or color (on document):
Groom's age: 38 years
Groom's birth year: 1836
Groom's birthplace: Scotland
Bride's name: Mary Sibley Adams
Bride's race or color (on document):
Bride's age: 22 years
Bride's birth year: 1852
Bride's birthplace: Detroit
Marriage type:
Marriage date: 14 Oct 1874
Marriage place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
Groom's father's name:
Groom's mother's name:
Father of bride's name:
Mother of bride's name:
Marital status:
Groom's previous wife's name:
Bride's marital status:
Bride's previous husband's name:
Additional relatives:
Film number: 2342459
Frame number:
Digital GS number: 4207584
Image number: 301
Reference number: v 3 p 326 rn 213
Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925




i cant find a mary adams with parents mary and charles on the 1860 or 1870 though



Philippa

Philippa Report 20 Feb 2010 07:29

Hi lorraine, Thanks for your help. I googled the Sibley family and that is where i got the information from. I found Charles Adams on the 1850 census living with the Sibley family.Thanks again Philippa

Janet

Janet Report 20 Feb 2010 11:41

Hi Lorraine
I have printed your reply off and I am going to sit and study. I feel overwhelmed at this information. Whilst I had the census information only on Ellen I am still at a loss who the William Mellor aged 7 on the 1920 census could be. I have tried to find out.. My personal quest is to find what happened to my grandmother Mellors's family and I have 14 to account for. You have now helped me with number thirteen Emma Mellor. The only one I have to find is an elusive Joseph Mellor born July 1864 Fulstone Huddersfield, a stone mason. Rumour has it he was last seen leaving San Francisco for New Zealand. The last census he was in England was 1901 but because there are strong links with America he could have visited or lived there.
I'm not sure how you have managed to get this information as I have tried in the past . I am so grateful. With best wishes Janet .

Janet

Janet Report 20 Feb 2010 12:08

Hi Lorraine
this is the second reply now I have studied the information you have sent. The details on Eva McCann now make everything fall into place. Her husband would be my mothers cousin. I have a letter written by the daughter of Ellen Mellor who talks about Eva as though my mum would know her but I had never heard of her. Any information on the Duffs will be more than welcomed. Emma named her daughter Sarah Louisa after her two youngest sisters, Sarah and my grandmother Louisa Mellor.It is so lovely to have this information, thank you so much. Best wishes Janet

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 20 Feb 2010 12:41

hi janet

re joseph

this is the only one i can find on 1901 born huddersfiel but he is wheelwright
is this right if not let me know the correct one on 1901 and I will see what I can find

1901 England Census
about Joseph Mellor
Name: Joseph Mellor
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Betsy A
Gender: Male
Where born: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Lockwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Crosland Moor St Barnabas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Lockwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 265
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Mellor 39
Betsy A Mellor 38
Harry Mellor 12
Clarice Mellor 9
Norris Mellor 7
Thomas Mellor 4

i will also try to find out more about the duffs and child william mellor / you say joseph went to san francisco, which would fit as its in california so he could be josephs child, I,m presuming jospeh is a brother of emma and ellen? . will get back to you soon

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 20 Feb 2010 13:29

janet

duff children

British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979
about Alexander Henry Duff
Name: Alexander Henry Duff
Gender: Male
Age: 70
Death Date: 9 Oct 1967
Place of Death: Vancouver
Registration #: 1967-09-013042
bca #: B13285
gsu #: 2033929

there is a tree on ancestry that says alexander and eva have 2 living children if you want me to contact them pm me your email and I will send them a message for you

walter duff /emmas son

1911 Census of Canada
about Walter Duff
Name: Walter Duff
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 24
Birth Date: Sep 1888
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Emma
Immigration Year: 1882
Tribal: Scotch (Scotish)
Province: Manitoba
District: Marquette
District Number: 19
Sub-District Number: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Duff 51
Emma Duff 54
Walter Duff 24
Louise S Duff 19
Alexander Duff 14
Agnes Duff 19
Charles Miller 27

wife is agnes born ontario


1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta
about Walter Duff
Name: Walter Duff
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 28
Est. Birth Year: 1888
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1890
Home in 1916: 18, Marquette, Manitoba
Address: Bk75, Main St, Birtle Town
racial_or_tribal_origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Self
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Duff 28
Margaret Agnes Duff 25
Henry Walter 4

son henry born british columbia


British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979
about Walter Duff
Name: Walter Duff
Gender: Male
Age: 88
Death Date: 23 Jun 1976
Place of Death: White Rock
Registration #: 1976-09-010346
bca #: B13353
gsu #: 2050566


British Columbia Marriage Index: 1872 to 1924
about Margaret Agnes Kirkbride
Name: Walter Duff
Bride: Margaret Agnes Kirkbride
Marriage Date: 20 Mar 1911
Place: Vancouver
bca number: B11375
Registration Number: 1911-09-063070
GSU Number: 1983703

British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979
about Margaret Agnes Duff
Name: Margaret Agnes Duff
Gender: Female
Age: 72
Death Date: 15 Mar 1964
Place of Death: Vancouver
Registration #: 1964-09-004554
bca #: B13266
gsu #: 2033689



cant find a marriage for louise or ellen