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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 21 Feb 2009 23:15

For reference

1871 Address: Rookery House, Birling
SMITH, James R Head M 49 1822 Kent
SMITH, Jemima Wife F 42 1829 Essex
SMITH, James B W Son M 3 1868 Kent
WATSON, Hannah Servant F 20 1851 Kent

BoroGirl

BoroGirl Report 21 Feb 2009 23:19

Births Dec 1907 (>99%)
PURKISS Louisa May Sheppey 2a 983

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 21 Feb 2009 23:24

Nearly dismissed this one till I noticed the address

1861 Address: Rookery House, Horne Street, Birling
SMITH, James N Head Married M 39 1822 House Proprietor
Higham
Kent
SMITH, Jane Wife Married F 32 1829
Harwich
Essex
SMITH, Mande M F Daughter F 3 1858
Plumstead
Kent
SMITH, Duncan L B Son M 1 1860
Plumstead
Kent
SMITH, Sidney Wg Son M 0 (5M) 1861
Frindsbury
Kent
BURGE, Mary A Sister Married F 36 1825
Strood
Kent
SMITH, Ellen Niece Unmarried F 23 1838
Chatham
Kent
BAHER, Mary Servant Married F 42 1819
Sheerness
Kent
TERRY, Harriett A Servant Unmarried F 17 1844
...
Kent

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 21 Feb 2009 23:32

Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
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Jefferys Emily Lavinia Maidstone 2a 1055
Smith Duncan Clarke B Maidstone 2a 1055

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 21 Feb 2009 23:36

Births Dec 1859 (>99%)
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SMITH Duncan Clarke __ceze Lewisham 1d 676


Looks suspiciously like Breeze to me.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 21 Feb 2009 23:46

Where are the children from 1861 census in1871? They did not all die as I have found some on freebmd.

BoroGirl

BoroGirl Report 21 Feb 2009 23:53

christine
I don't know but I've been on freebmd for hours and still can't find any marriages for this woman never mind children lol

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 21 Feb 2009 23:54

1871 Address: York Inn, Chatham
BREEZE, James Head M 42 1829 Kent
BREEZE, Mary A Wife F 47 1824 Kent
SMITH, Maud M Niece F 13 1858 Kent
SMITH, Duncan C B Nephew M 11 1860 Kent
MURPHY, Elizabeth Servant F 25 1846 Kent

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 21 Feb 2009 23:56

You have gotta love the Smiths!!!!!

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Feb 2009 00:00

The brother has surname Breeze??????????

BoroGirl

BoroGirl Report 22 Feb 2009 00:02

musta got sick of Smith ;-))




or the other one added it for some reason !!!

Peter

Peter Report 22 Feb 2009 00:20

Ladies,

It is time to get some shut-eye. If you, like me, have been trolling the records until the eyes fail, it is time to rest.

Perhaps we can carry on in the morning.

Thanks for all your suggestions. I really appreciate them

'nite

viva las Smiths!!!

Peter

BoroGirl

BoroGirl Report 22 Feb 2009 00:25

night Peter see you later

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Feb 2009 00:29

sorry
so busy scrolling did not see this.
baby sitting tonight and she does not not sleep for long
good night

sablon

sablon Report 22 Feb 2009 10:30

there is this elizabeth STEED
one of the men is missing i wonder if it is James???

Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
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Brown Charles Frederick St. Saviour 1d 281
Chick Emily St. Saviour 1d 281
Hyland George Thomas St. Saviour 1d 281
Manger Lilian St. Saviour 1d 281
Steed Elizabeth St. Saviour 1d 281

The district St. Saviour is an alternative name for St Saviour Southwark and it spans the boundaries of the counties of London and Surrey; i

sablon

sablon Report 22 Feb 2009 10:41

Deaths Mar 1900

Smith James Breeze W 32 Medway 2a 512


well the last marriage did not take place as he was dead



bought forward the birth


Births Dec 1867


Smith James Breeze W Medway 2a 403


The district Medway is in the county of Kent

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Feb 2009 11:28

Although Elizabeth was registered in Croydon She was born in Penge Kent.

Penge formed a part of the parish of Battersea, with the historic county boundary between Kent and Surrey forming its eastern boundary.[1] In 1855 both parts of the parish were included in the area of the Metropolitan Board of Works, with Penge Hamlet Vestry electing six members to the Lewisham District Board of Works.[2] The Local Government Act 1888 abolished the Metropolitan Board, with its area becoming the County of London. However the London Government Act 1899 subsequently made provision for Penge to be removed from the County of London and annexed to either Surrey or Kent. Accordingly, an order in council transferred the hamlet to Kent in 1900, constituting it as Penge Urban District.[3] The urban district was abolished in 1965 by the London Government Act 1963, and its former area merged with that of other districts to form the London Borough of Bromley. With the creation of the Penge Urban District, Penge New Road (formerly the part of Beckenham Road north of Kent House Road) was renamed Penge High Street.

From 1885 the Hamlet of Penge was a ward of the Dulwich (UK Parliament constituency)(then in Surrey) and remained in that electorate until 1918 when it was transferred to the new Bromley (UK Parliament constituency). From 1950 to the present it has been in the Beckenham (UK Parliament Constituency).In future elections Penge will become part of Lewisham West and Penge (UK Parliament constituency)

In the Victorian era Penge developed into a fashionable suburb because of its proximity to the relocated Crystal Palace. By 1862 Stanford's map of London[1] shows large homes had been constructed along Penge New Road (now Crystal Palace Park Road and Penge High Street), Thick Wood (now Thicket) Road and Anerley Road. This all came to an end with the notorious Penge Murders of 1877

sablon

sablon Report 22 Feb 2009 11:31

this is the only marriage i could find for Elizabeth after his death

Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
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Bradbury William Bolton 8c 509
Darwen Annie Seed Bolton 8c 509
Shore Frank Bolton 8c 509
Smith Elizabeth Isabella Bolton 8c 509



LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Feb 2009 11:42

There are Smiths in Birling 1841
but not James c1822

There is a Rookery Farm but not
Rookery House, Horne Street, Birling

There are no Breezes in Birling 1841

Can someone check out 1851 as that is not yet avaiable on Findmypast.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Feb 2009 11:54

1841 Address: St Margaret Street, St Margaret, Rochester
SMITH, James M 55 1786
SMITH, James M 19 1822 Kent
SMITH, Mary F 17 1824 Kent
TAYLOR, William M 6 1835