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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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Antigone

Antigone Report 20 Feb 2009 13:25

Hi Michelle

Thanks for all your help so far. Still trying to find info about Edmund D'arcy and his wife Margaret.
You asked for info about witnesses to wedding of Margaret D'arcy (daughter) and Richard Butler
(June 1st 1873 ) and they are
Edmund D'arcy and Johanna Desmond..

Am also now trying to find marriage record of Edmund D'arcy and Margaret I guess around 1845-1850 and would be very grateful if you could help with this.

Many many thanks

Antigone

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Feb 2009 13:49

Patricia

Sorry your lookup request seemed to go through without me seeing it till now.Could you post me the birthyears and places for the couple please.

Michelle

DoctorWho

DoctorWho Report 20 Feb 2009 14:44

Hi Michelle

REF: WILLIAM EDWARD DOWSEY (1872)

I have just received the marriage certificate for William's parents, his mam is down as Mary Elizabeth Sloan, Dressmaker, her dad is down as Edward Sloan, Labourer. William's dad is down as Thomas Dowsey, Widower, Fireman, although on his son William's birth cert. he is down as Mariner, his dad is down as Wiliam Dowsey, Mariner. I wondered if Thomas could have been married to a lady called Mary Agnus Donaldson first because she died aged just 21, she had a son Henry in 1869. A lady sent me her tree to look at and she matches except for Thomas's wife, she has her down as Mary Agnus Donaldson c1850 and I have her down as Mary Elizabeth Sloan. If you can help it would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

Yvonne

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Feb 2009 14:47

Yvonne

Could you please remind me of places of birth for the people you mentioned.

Thanks.

Michelle

BOBBIE

BOBBIE Report 20 Feb 2009 16:33

hi michelle
im trying to find the birth of wilhelmina (kate) pickett 1883 southampton
can you help PLEASE

Elaine

Elaine Report 20 Feb 2009 16:33

Hi Michelle
I was wondering if you could help me please, trying to find two siblings (parents Samuel fitton & emma) first one sam fitton brn 1865 Thornham & matilda brn 1877 crompton, i found them on 1881 census with both parents but after that i have struggled, wondering if you could shed any light on them, any infor would be very much appreciated
thanks
elaine

Chris

Chris Report 20 Feb 2009 16:38

Michelle,

Witnesses for Henry's marriage were E Rogers & G Cooper.

Father not down as deceased.

Chris

DoctorWho

DoctorWho Report 20 Feb 2009 18:17

Sorry Michelle, it was Whitehaven, Cumberland.

Thanks.

Yvonne

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Feb 2009 19:03

Shelia

Hi Shelia.I am going to work backwards if i may from the just before Harry 1905.Here is the marriage of his parents.

Harry Breathen 1902 Congleton Cheshire, Staffordshire

Martha Price 1902 Congleton Cheshire, Staffordshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Harry Breathen
Name: Harry Breathen
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Congleton
County: Cheshire, Staffordshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 566 (click to see others on page)

If your Grandmother was Martha then here is the christening of Harry 1905

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Harry Breathen
Name: Harry Breathen
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 14 May 1905
Christening Place: Lapley, Staffordshire, England
Father's Name: Harry Breathen
Mother's Name: Martha

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Harry Breathen
Name: Harry Breathen
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Cannock
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 513 (click to see others on page)

Now onto Harry 1877

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Harry Breathen
Name: Harry Breathen
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Wolstanton
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 118 (click to see others on page)

Here is the 1881.William his father is listed as 1842 although in earlier census records have seen him as 1852?The image def states his age as 39.

1881 England Census
about William Breathem
Name: William Breathem
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: St Marys, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolstanton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 10 Long Row
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathem 39
Elizabeth Breathem 31
Albert Breathem 7
John Breathen 6
Harry Breathen 4

1881 England Census
about Elizabeth Breathem
Name: Elizabeth Breathem
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Bilston, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolstanton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 10 Long Row
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Labourer Wife

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathem 39
Elizabeth Breathem 31
Albert Breathem 7
John Breathen 6
Harry Breathen 4

1881 England Census
about Albert Breathem
Name: Albert Breathem
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolstanton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 10 Long Row
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathem 39
Elizabeth Breathem 31
Albert Breathem 7
John Breathen 6
Harry Breathen 4

1881 England Census
about John Breathen
Name: John Breathen
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolstanton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 10 Long Row
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathem 39
Elizabeth Breathem 31
Albert Breathem 7
John Breathen 6
Harry Breathen 4

Continue...






















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Feb 2009 19:04

Shelia

1881 Continued....

1881 England Census
about Harry Breathen
Name: Harry Breathen
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolstanton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 10 Long Row
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathem 39
Elizabeth Breathem 31
Albert Breathem 7
John Breathen 6
Harry Breathen 4


***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Feb 2009 19:24

Shelia

1891 We see William father of Harry back to 1852 birthyear.The family have moved to the same reg district that Harry will later marry in.

1891 England Census
about William Braathen
Name: William Braathen
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bomere Heath, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandbach
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Sandbach
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Braathen 39
Elizabeth Braathen 41
Albert Braathen 17
John Braathen 16
Harry Braathen 14
Elizabeth Braathen 7
Robert Braathen 8

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth Braathen
Name: Elizabeth Braathen
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Belstone, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandbach
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Sandbach
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Braathen 39
Elizabeth Braathen 41
Albert Braathen 17
John Braathen 16
Harry Braathen 14
Elizabeth Braathen 7
Robert Braathen 8

1891 England Census
about Albert Braathen
Name: Albert Braathen
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Ridsgrove, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandbach
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Sandbach
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Braathen 39
Elizabeth Braathen 41
Albert Braathen 17
John Braathen 16
Harry Braathen 14
Elizabeth Braathen 7
Robert Braathen 8

1891 England Census
about John Braathen
Name: John Braathen
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Ridsgrove, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandbach
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Sandbach
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Braathen 39
Elizabeth Braathen 41
Albert Braathen 17
John Braathen 16
Harry Braathen 14
Elizabeth Braathen 7
Robert Braathen 8

1891 England Census
about Harry Braathen
Name: Harry Braathen
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Ridsgrove, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandbach
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Sandbach
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Braathen 39
Elizabeth Braathen 41
Albert Braathen 17
John Braathen 16
Harry Braathen 14
Elizabeth Braathen 7
Robert Braathen 8

Continue....


















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Feb 2009 20:11

Shelia

1891 Continued....

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth Braathen
Name: Elizabeth Braathen
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Ridsgrove, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandbach
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Sandbach
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Braathen 39
Elizabeth Braathen 41
Albert Braathen 17
John Braathen 16
Harry Braathen 14
Elizabeth Braathen 7
Robert Braathen 8

1891 England Census
about Robert Braathen
Name: Robert Braathen
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Ridsgrove, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandbach
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Sandbach
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Braathen 39
Elizabeth Braathen 41
Albert Braathen 17
John Braathen 16
Harry Braathen 14
Elizabeth Braathen 7
Robert Braathen 8

William a Chemical Works Fireman
Albert a Chemical Labourer

Address Sandbach Heath









***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Feb 2009 20:16

Shelia

1901 Census

1901 England Census
about William Breathen
Name: William Breathen
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Heath, Dunns Heath

Civil Parish: Sandbach
Ecclesiastical parish: Sandbach Heath St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathen 49
Elizabeth Breathen 51
Harry Breathen 24
Elizabeth Breathen 17

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Breathen
Name: Elizabeth Breathen
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Bilston, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandbach
Ecclesiastical parish: Sandbach Heath St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathen 49
Elizabeth Breathen 51
Harry Breathen 24
Elizabeth Breathen 17

1901 England Census
about Harry Breathen
Name: Harry Breathen
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Kidsgrove, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandbach
Ecclesiastical parish: Sandbach Heath St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathen 49
Elizabeth Breathen 51
Harry Breathen 24
Elizabeth Breathen 17

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Breathen
Name: Elizabeth Breathen
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Kidsgrove, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Sandbach
Ecclesiastical parish: Sandbach Heath St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Congleton
Sub registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathen 49
Elizabeth Breathen 51
Harry Breathen 24
Elizabeth Breathen 17


William a Alkali Chemical Labourer
Harry a Gardener Domestic

Address Sandbach Heath













***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Feb 2009 20:28

Shelia

Poss marriage of William and Elizabeth...maybe cousins??

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Elizabeth Breathen 1872 Wolstanton Staffordshire
View Record
William Breathen 1872 Wolstanton Staffordshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about William Breathen
Name: William Breathen
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Wolstanton
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 217 (click to see others on page)

The 1871 shows William as a Lodger...i'm guessing in Uncles house?looks like Elizabeth his wife is here also.Details of the 1871 match her details on the 1881.

1871 England Census
about William Breathen
Name: William Breathen
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Winifred
Gender: Male
Where born: Preston Grubalds, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Ravenscliffe
Ecclesiastical parish: Kidsgrove
Town: Kidsgrove
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 151
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathen 49
Winifred Breathen 48
Martha Breathen 23
Elizabeth Breathen 21
John Breathen 18
William Breathen 8
Elizabeth Breathen 5
Robert Breathen 25
William Breathen 19
Eleanor Sumner 30

1871 England Census
about Winifred Breathen
Name: Winifred Breathen
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Wem, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Ravenscliffe
Ecclesiastical parish: Kidsgrove
Town: Kidsgrove
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 151
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathen 49
Winifred Breathen 48
Martha Breathen 23
Elizabeth Breathen 21
John Breathen 18
William Breathen 8
Elizabeth Breathen 5
Robert Breathen 25
William Breathen 19
Eleanor Sumner 30

1871 England Census
about Martha Breathen
Name: Martha Breathen
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Winifred
Gender: Female
Where born: Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Ravenscliffe
Ecclesiastical parish: Kidsgrove
Town: Kidsgrove
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 151
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathen 49
Winifred Breathen 48
Martha Breathen 23
Elizabeth Breathen 21
John Breathen 18
William Breathen 8
Elizabeth Breathen 5
Robert Breathen 25
William Breathen 19
Eleanor Sumner 30

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Breathen
Name: Elizabeth Breathen
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Winifred
Gender: Female
Where born: Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Ravenscliffe
Ecclesiastical parish: Kidsgrove
Town: Kidsgrove
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 151
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathen 49
Winifred Breathen 48
Martha Breathen 23
Elizabeth Breathen 21
John Breathen 18
William Breathen 8
Elizabeth Breathen 5
Robert Breathen 25
William Breathen 19
Eleanor Sumner 30

Continue...
















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Feb 2009 20:37

Shelia

1871 Continued...

1871 England Census
about Robert Breathen
Name: Robert Breathen
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: St Mary, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Ravenscliffe
Ecclesiastical parish: Kidsgrove
Town: Kidsgrove
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 151
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathen 49
Winifred Breathen 48
Martha Breathen 23
Elizabeth Breathen 21
John Breathen 18
William Breathen 8
Elizabeth Breathen 5
Robert Breathen 25
William Breathen 19
Eleanor Sumner 30

1871 England Census
about William Breathen
Name: William Breathen
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: St Mary, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Ravenscliffe
Ecclesiastical parish: Kidsgrove
Town: Kidsgrove
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 151
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathen 49
Winifred Breathen 48
Martha Breathen 23
Elizabeth Breathen 21
John Breathen 18
William Breathen 8
Elizabeth Breathen 5
Robert Breathen 25
William Breathen 19
Eleanor Sumner 30

1871 England Census
about Eleanor Sumner
Name: Eleanor Sumner
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Ravenscliffe
Ecclesiastical parish: Kidsgrove
Town: Kidsgrove
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 152
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathen 49
Winifred Breathen 48
Martha Breathen 23
Elizabeth Breathen 21
John Breathen 18
William Breathen 8
Elizabeth Breathen 5
Robert Breathen 25
William Breathen 19
Eleanor Sumner 30


William Head a Labourer in Ironworks
Martha and Elizabeth General Servant
John a Ironworks Puddler
Robert a Labourer in Ironworks
William no occupation listed






Peppa

Peppa Report 20 Feb 2009 20:43

Hi Michelle

Thank you for your kind offer. Please could you try and find on 1851/1861 census:

William Wales born 1848 in Lemington, Northumberland.

I have him on 1871 and 1881 census as still living at Lemington. I do not know what his parents were called so have no other info I can give you

Hope this is enough to find him
Many thanks

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Feb 2009 21:55

Elaine

Now to the 1861.This is not 100% although looks good.

Here is the whole record of William and Winnifred with daughter Elizabeth...won't break this up but shows that William 1852 is not with them

1861 England Census
about William Breathen
Name: William Breathen
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Winefred
Gender: Male
Where born: Bomer Heath, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Bilston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Bilston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub registration district: Bilston
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 92
Household Members: Name Age
William Breathen 40
Winefred Breathen 40
Lucy Breathen 17
Martha Breathen 13
Elizabeth Breathen 11
John Breathen 9
Joseph Breathen 8 Mo

This i believe is your William...surname has been mispelt on the image.
Now what is not clear on the image is whether Roger is William's father?Roger is listed as Blind and unmarried.Also unsure of the relationship of Martha to William i found a poss christening record for her which listed her mother as Sarah Breathen.I do think its poss that this Joseph is father of Roger and the William on the previous record..1822 William.

1861 England Census
about Joseph Breathing
Name: Joseph Breathing
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Preston Gubbals, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Preston Gubbals
Ecclesiastical parish: Leaton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Atcham
Sub registration district: Battlefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Breathing 65
Jane Breathing 62
Roger Breathing 37
William Breathing 9
Martha Breathing 2

1861 England Census
about Jane Breathing
Name: Jane Breathing
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston Gubbals, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Preston Gubbals
Ecclesiastical parish: Leaton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Atcham
Sub registration district: Battlefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Breathing 65
Jane Breathing 62
Roger Breathing 37
William Breathing 9
Martha Breathing 2

1861 England Census
about Roger Breathing
Name: Roger Breathing
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Preston Gubbals, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Preston Gubbals
Ecclesiastical parish: Leaton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Atcham
Sub registration district: Battlefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Breathing 65
Jane Breathing 62
Roger Breathing 37
William Breathing 9
Martha Breathing 2

1861 England Census
about William Breathing
Name: William Breathing
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Grandson
Father's Name: Roger
Gender: Male
Where born: St Mary's, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Preston Gubbals
Ecclesiastical parish: Leaton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Atcham
Sub registration district: Battlefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Breathing 65
Jane Breathing 62
Roger Breathing 37
William Breathing 9
Martha Breathing 2

Continue....















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Feb 2009 22:46

Shelia

1861 Continued....

1861 England Census
about Martha Breathing
Name: Martha Breathing
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: Roger
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston Gubbals, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Preston Gubbals
Ecclesiastical parish: Leaton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Atcham
Sub registration district: Battlefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Breathing 65
Jane Breathing 62
Roger Breathing 37
William Breathing 9
Martha Breathing 2

Joseph a Labourer
Roger a Basket Maker

Address Leaton

It does not state on the census image the relationship of Roger to the children.Roger is listed as son and the children are Grandchildren to the head.I think it is presumed that they are Roger's children.You will need to obtain William's marriage cert to Elizabeth to see who William's father is listed as.

What i am sure of is Roger was son of Joseph and Jane

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ROGER BREATHEN Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth: 03 DEC 1823

Christening: 21 DEC 1823 Preston Gubbals, Shropshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOSEPH BREATHEN Family
Mother: JANE


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Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

here looks like William 1852's death

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about William Breathen
Name: William Breathen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Year of Registration: 1923
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 71
District: Congleton
County: Cheshire, Staffordshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 377 (click to see others on page)

Hope all this info helps you.And be good idea to get the marriage cert to check the father of William 1852.

Michelle






***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Feb 2009 23:29

Yvonne

Here is the marriage of 1869 to the Mary you mentioned

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Mary Agnes Donaldson 1869 Whitehaven Cumbria, Cumberland

Thomas Dowsey 1869 Whitehaven Cumbria, Cumberland

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Thomas Dowsey
Name: Thomas Dowsey
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Whitehaven
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 745 (click to see others on page)

and how sad she died 2 years later

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Mary Agnes Dowsey
Name: Mary Agnes Dowsey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 21
District: Whitehaven
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 424 (click to see others on page)

and here is the 2nd marriage a year later

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Thomas Dowsey
Name: Thomas Dowsey
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Whitehaven
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 1061 (click to see others on page)

Thomas Dowsey 1872 Whitehaven Cumbria, Cumberland
View Record

Mary Elizabeth Sloan 1872 Whitehaven Cumbria, Cumberland

Same record there was a Henry Dowsey getting married.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Henry Dowsey
Name: Henry Dowsey
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Whitehaven
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 1061 (click to see others on page)

Poss to a Ann Lister

Henry Dowsey 1872 Whitehaven Cumbria, Cumberland

Ann Lister 1872 Whitehaven Cumbria, Cumberland

Will see what else i can find....









***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Feb 2009 23:58

Yvonne

let me know what else you require on William.Hope the marriage info has cleared up that problem for you.

Michelle