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1851 census look up please
looking for sydney moseley born bristol 1845
need parents and siblings
les chapman

Hi Michelle,
Thank you so much for all your research on William Rogers. As you say, the Cold Ashby William is far out on birth date. I was going to say that as the Alderton William was lodging in 1851 he couldn't be mine but then I found I hadn't got mine in 1851 either, only in 1861 on. My William was definitely married by 1851 but could have been lodging or visiting in 1851. Oh, my goodness!! Please could you check for William and wife Frances in 1851.They lived in Greens Norton all their married life.
I know you asked about the marriage cert. William says he was 'of full age' labourer, residence Greens Norton, no fathers name as I said but the witnesses were John Darby and Ann Rogers.
Maybe Williams mum had married by 1841, maybe William can't be found in 1841 because he is down as son of Mary and ...new surname.Could John Darby be a clue, could it be Williams step father? My mind is buzzing.
Another reason for me thinking William was the son of Mary is because Thomas and Frances who had a William in 1826, (A William age 6 death in 1832) then had another son in 1836 and called him William (lots of Williams around) I don't think they would have called him William if their first William was alive. Trouble is, my neice has done a huge family tree basing it on William son of Thomas and Frances and I feel uncomfortable about this as there is no father on Williams marriage cert
Sorry!! I am using you as a sounding board but maybe something might pop up!!
Love
Chris

Chris

Not the lodging one on the 1851 as here is William married to Frances

1851 England Census
about William Rogers
Name: William Rogers
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: Greens Norton, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Greens Norton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Towcester
Sub registration district: Abthorpe
ED, institution, or vessel: 8b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
Frances Rogers 19
William Rogers 25

1851 England Census
about Frances Rogers
Name: Frances Rogers
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Greens Norton, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Greens Norton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Towcester
Sub registration district: Abthorpe
ED, institution, or vessel: 8b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
Frances Rogers 19
William Rogers 25

William a Ag Lab
Frances a Lace Maker

No address listed.

Interesting Chris cos my ancestor was Bank Manager of Towcester around this time!

Thank you again Michelle, That has definitely ruled the Alderton William out!
My husband and I have lots of family from the Towcester area (have you seen Mary Taylors Towcester web site? That is very useful and interesting)
Many thanks again!
Chris

Hi Chris yes i have seen her site and been in contact with her.My ancestors were the Jepson's and they were Bank Managers in Towcester for many years.Henry Whitby Jepson and then his son John Hanbury Jepson.I wonder if our ancestors knew each other?


Michelle

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Leslie

Your Sidney is proving a tricky chap!I have his wife on the 1871 and him on the 1891-1901 but not on 1851-61 census yet?I have his birth record although there is 2 listed on Ancestry for same quarter?This maybe a double entry?Also have his marriage in Wales.
I should imagine on the 1861 he was at sea as he was a Mariner-never easy people to find as they are often away at sea.

You will have to check with the GRO if these birth records are the same person or 2 Sidney's-although i can only see 1 in the census records.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Sidney Moseley
Name: Sidney Moseley
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bristol
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 208 (click to see others on page)


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Sidney Moseley
Name: Sidney Moseley
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bristol
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: _0_ (click to see others on page)


Sorry i couldn't see him on the 1851-makes me wonder if he was even on it as i have looked for quite a while.The only other poss is that his mother had remarried and he is hiding under a different surname?
This family look interesting as the father was from Ireland.I had a quick look and couldn't see Steven again??saw a poss for his sister as a servant in a later census.Wonder if Sidney had a middle name??my mind is running away now!!

1851 England Census
about Steven Moseley
Name: Steven Moseley
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Stwen
Mother's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol

Civil Parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Clifton
Sub registration district: St Philip and Jacob
ED, institution, or vessel: 1e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 186
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Moseley 10
Lucy Moseley 35
Mary Moseley 2
Steven Moseley 8
Stwen Moseley 40

michelle hi i hope you can give me some sort of help with 3 peeps please i have tryed for weeks to find out the married names maiden names harnwell queenie 1929 dorothy1921 and maud 1915 all where born in west ham and married in west ham all got married about the age of 20 to 25 all moved to new zeland mid 1900 i am looking for the husbands names if poss then i can relook up the deaths in new zeland yours lesley

Lesley

Just starting on your.

Here is Queenie C Harnwell

She married in 1950 Q2 Apr-May-June in West Ham district to a man with the surname Roberts

Vol 5a Page Number 1242

Lesley

Here is Dorothy

She married in 1941 Q3 Jul-Aug-Sept

Dorothy L Harnwell married in West Ham to a man with surname Parry

Vol 4a Page 41

Only 1 left!

Lesley

Maud married in 1936 Q3 Jul-Aug-Sept

Maud Harnwell married in West Ham to a man with the surname Saville

Vol 4a Page Number 371

I would recommend you getting these marriage certs to ensure they are the correct people and father's of the 3 women match.

Good luck with finding the deaths.

Michelle

hi thank you michelle for that help i will get all papers but do think you have it all right any way thank you for your time lesley

Hi Michelle,I hope you could help me.My grandfather's name was Alfred William Stevens, he was born in Portsmouth ,England in 1900 and his father's name was Richard Stevens.In the 1901 censis Richard was not there.I am trying to find any information on Richard . Also I know that Richard was in the navy but thats all I know.Any information you can find me would be fantastic,thanks alot,Joanne.

Hi Lesley

I can't say if they are 100% correct.I have done this look up on your info-names and places of marriage-West Ham that you gave me.Queenie i would say is a def cos the name is not very common.There is no way of knowing from the BMD records if it is your people cos ages are not given only the details i gave you.This is why i said to send for the certs and then you will know for sure.
I don't normally do searches beyond 1930 and was doing this as a favour to you.

Michelle

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hi michelle i have been very greatfull for your past help but need to ask you if you can or if you have access to any thing in new z  it is drive me nuts trying to get any info i am look for the darths of queenie roberts nee harnwell birth 1929 dorothy parry nee harnwell birth 1921 maud saville nee harnwell birth 1915 the deaths may be in wellington nz and aurkland i may have one queenie 2007 but that is all please if you can help yours lesley

Lesley

Sorry i don't have access to New Zealand records.I suggest you put a thread on the Records Office Board asking if anyone can help you.Genes has members from all over the world and some one from New Zealand may help or someone with access to New Zealand records maybe able to help.
Good luck!

Michelle

I am free to do lookups and brick walls if anyone needs help.

Valerie

Hi there having a look at your pm at mo.I wonder if this could be the marriage of Lilian Harding to Alfred Brown?

Alfred Brown 1900 Westminster (1870-1913) London, Middlesex

Lilian Harding 1900 Westminster (1870-1913) London, Middlesex

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Lilian Harding
Name: Lilian Harding
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westminster (1870-1913)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 1044 (click to see others on page)

Valerie

More possible findings....Based on the Alfred marriage record i found to a Lilian Harding

1901 England Census
about Alfred Brown
Name: Alfred Brown
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lilian
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil Parish: Prittlewell
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Rochford
Sub registration district: Prittlewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Brown 38
Lilian Brown 25

1901 England Census
about Lilian Brown
Name: Lilian Brown
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Alfred
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil Parish: Prittlewell
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Rochford
Sub registration district: Prittlewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Brown 38
Lilian Brown 25

Occupation looks like Waiter although this is crossed through and Dom written.

Address 4 South Avenue Terrace


Based on the reg district of this record wondered if this is Lilian Dorothy?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Lilian Dorothy Brown
Name: Lilian Dorothy Brown
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Rochford
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 709 (click to see others on page)