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Michelle

Sorry mixed up all my paper work lol thought it rang a bell when i typed it

so sorry lol.

Emily

Jeanette

Happy to help you :)

Can i get a couple of things clear first though.

1) What was your 2x Great Grandmother's name and year of birth?
2) Also her sister?
3) Have you got the marriage cert of your 2x Great Grandmother's parents?
4) If you have can i have the details from it....age at marriage?occupation?father's names?witnesses?

In the meantime i will look but above information would help please.

Michelle

Emily

That's ok no probs :)

Michelle

Thank you Michelle,

My 2nd Grt Gran was Barbara Straughan b. 1867 Seaham Colliery, New Seaham (no b cert) I have her death cert. which gives her husbands full name Robinson Taylor Langlands they married 2 Oct 1884 at Christ Church in New Seaham. (no cert) I use Durham Records Online where i can. she was bap. 16 Aug 1868 Barbara Straughan, daughter of John Straughan & Jane
Barbara's sister was Mary Jane Straughan b. 2 Jan 1870 in Seaham Colliery, New Seaham. to Mary Jane Straughan nee Clark and John Straughan a coal miner. (from cert)
I have'nt ordered Barbara's parents Marr Cert. yet as I am unsure of my findings. The one in question is 2 July 1859 St. Mary the Virgin, Old Seaham John Straughan, son of John Straughan married Jane Clark, daughter of Robert Clark. ( I can only find census reports with the fathers name as Robert Straughan , wife Jane)

Jeanette

Jeanette

Thanks for the details give me some time and i will see what i can find. Quite a few showing around that birthyear and also a surname that could easily be mistranscribed.

See what i can find.

Michelle

Jeanette

Wow that has taken some looking!!Think i have found your John with his father John.
Mistranscribed and missing his parents on this record

1841 England Census
about John Strachan
Name: John Strachan
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Willington
Hundred: Castle (East Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Wallsend
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Strachan 1

Here are other family members listed seperately which is strange

1841 England Census
about John Strachan
Name: John Strachan
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1809
Gender: Male
Where born: Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Willington
Hundred: Castle (East Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Wallsend
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Strachan 32

1841 England Census
about Ann Strachan
Name: Ann Strachan
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Gender: Female
Where born: Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Willington
Hundred: Castle (East Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Wallsend
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Strachan 27

1841 England Census
about Pane Strachan
Name: Pane Strachan
[Jane Strachan]
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Gender: Female
Where born: Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Willington
Hundred: Castle (East Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Wallsend
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Pane Strachan 6

1841 England Census
about Margt Strachan
Name: Margt Strachan
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Gender: Female
Where born: Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Willington
Hundred: Castle (East Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Wallsend
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Margt Strachan 4

When you look at the image they are together as a family. John(father) listed as a Coal Miner.
Notice they are living in Willington birthplace listed on later census records.

I think father John may have died in 1849?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about John Straughan
Name: John Straughan
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Tynemouth
County: Northumberland
Volume: 25
Page: 338 (click to see others on page)

I think Ann married this gentleman below.I may need to check that death now...as it is out!

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Alexander Jeminson
Name: Alexander Jeminson
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Easington
County: Durham
Volume: 24
Page: 101 (click to see others on page)

Alexander Jeminson 1848 Easington Durham
View Record
Ann Straughan 1848 Easington Durham


More to follow!!

Jeanette

Here is the 1851 i found i think this is your John with his family and mother Ann and new husband Alexander.Notice Margaret and Jane from the 1841 are also here.

1851 England Census
about Alexander Jemison
Name: Alexander Jemison
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Shotton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Jemison 32
Ann Jemison 36
Jane Strangham 16
Margaret Strangham 14
John Strangham 12
Robt Strangham 8
Thomas Jemison 1 Mo

1851 England Census
about Ann Jemison
Name: Ann Jemison
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Alexander
Gender: Female
Where born: Wallsend, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Shotton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Jemison 32
Ann Jemison 36
Jane Strangham 16
Margaret Strangham 14
John Strangham 12
Robt Strangham 8
Thomas Jemison 1 Mo

1851 England Census
about Jane Strangham
Name: Jane Strangham
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Daughter-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Wallsend, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Shotton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Jemison 32
Ann Jemison 36
Jane Strangham 16
Margaret Strangham 14
John Strangham 12
Robt Strangham 8
Thomas Jemison 1 Mo

1851 England Census
about Margaret Strangham
Name: Margaret Strangham
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Wallsend, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Shotton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Jemison 32
Ann Jemison 36
Jane Strangham 16
Margaret Strangham 14
John Strangham 12
Robt Strangham 8
Thomas Jemison 1 Mo

1851 England Census
about John Strangham
Name: John Strangham
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Son-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Wallsend, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Shotton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Jemison 32
Ann Jemison 36
Jane Strangham 16
Margaret Strangham 14
John Strangham 12
Robt Strangham 8
Thomas Jemison 1 Mo

1851 England Census
about Robt Strangham
Name: Robt Strangham
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Son-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Wallsend, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Shotton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Jemison 32
Ann Jemison 36
Jane Strangham 16
Margaret Strangham 14
John Strangham 12
Robt Strangham 8
Thomas Jemison 1 Mo

Continue.....

Jeanette

1851 Continued

1851 England Census
about Thomas Jemison
Name: Thomas Jemison
Age: 1 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Easington Per, Durham, England

Civil parish: Shotton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Jemison 32
Ann Jemison 36
Jane Strangham 16
Margaret Strangham 14
John Strangham 12
Robt Strangham 8
Thomas Jemison 1 Mo

Alexander a Coal Miner
Jane a Dress Maker
John a Driver in the Coal Mines


I think this is the correct death of John

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about John Straughan
Name: John Straughan
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Easington
County: Durham
Volume: 24
Page: 55 (click to see others on page)

So it looks like John died in 1845 and Ann his wife remarried in 1848.They most prob moved to Durham to the mines there between 1843-45. The son Robert was born c1843 in Northumberland so we know they were still there then.

Well hope that has helped.Now i would advise you to get the marriage cert of John and Jane to check whether details match.

Michelle

Michelle Thank you so much,

I am most certainly sending for those certs. You are so clever to have found those entries.

Once again, thank you so much.

Jeanette

I've been trying to help a friend and we can't find one family in 1871, though he's got them in 1881 and earlier. I haven't got full information, but taking ages from 1881 the family is Daniel Wicking, wife Louisa, both age 37, and children Arthur 6, Beatrix M, 4 and John 1. They should be in London, possibly St Pancras district. If you can track them down I'd be most grateful. Thanks.
Linda

Linda

Hi Linda here is the family you are after under Wilking also Daniel's age was listed wrongly as the image has a mark over his age and has been transcribed as 51 instead of 37.

1871 England Census
about Daniel Wilking
Name: Daniel Wilking
[Daniel Wicking]
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regent
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 615
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Wilking 51
Louisa Wilking 35
Alice Wilking 7
Arthur Wilking 6
Beatrice Wilking 4
John Wilking 1

1871 England Census
about Louisa Wilking
Name: Louisa Wilking
[Louisa Wicking]
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Daniel
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regent
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 615
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Wilking 51
Louisa Wilking 35
Alice Wilking 7
Arthur Wilking 6
Beatrice Wilking 4
John Wilking 1

1871 England Census
about Alice Wilking
Name: Alice Wilking
[Alice Wicking]
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Female
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regent
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 615
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Wilking 51
Louisa Wilking 35
Alice Wilking 7
Arthur Wilking 6
Beatrice Wilking 4
John Wilking 1

1871 England Census
about Arthur Wilking
Name: Arthur Wilking
[Arthur Wicking]
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regent
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 615
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Wilking 51
Louisa Wilking 35
Alice Wilking 7
Arthur Wilking 6
Beatrice Wilking 4
John Wilking 1

1871 England Census
about Beatrice Wilking
Name: Beatrice Wilking
[Beatrice Wicking]
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regent
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 615
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Wilking 51
Louisa Wilking 35
Alice Wilking 7
Arthur Wilking 6
Beatrice Wilking 4
John Wilking 1

1871 England Census
about John Wilking
Name: John Wilking
[John Wicking]
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regent
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 615
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Wilking 51
Louisa Wilking 35
Alice Wilking 7
Arthur Wilking 6
Beatrice Wilking 4
John Wilking 1

Daniel a Piano Forte Key Maker

Address not clear sorry could be 27 Longford Street?

Hope information helps :)

That's brilliant - thank you so much. He will be delighted when I tell him. Thought they had to be there somewhere!
cheers, Linda

Hi michelle,
i hope you not got this message twice sorry if you have ..but here goes i hope you might be able to help me, im looking for information on my uncle norman leslie mcfarlane he married my aunt lily in 1958 they had no children, norman married before aunt lily in 1936 to a Margaret Seton Huth, st giles edinburgh/mid lothian...could you please help if they had any children or when she might have died as i cant find anything on them , or if she married again
any information would be most grateful
thanks once again
elaine

Jane

I only have access to christening records to 1906.I have however found the following info on her.


There were 2 registered births in this name in Sussex in 1920

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Margaret Slade
Name: Margaret Slade
Mother's Maiden Surname: Peskett
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1920
Registration district: Westhampnett
Registration county: Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 701 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Margaret Slade
Name: Margaret Slade
Mother's Maiden Surname: Slade
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1920
Registration district: Christchurch
Registration county: Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1552 (click to see others on page)

Now what is interesting is the following

Born same quarter as the top Margaret Slade a twin

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Kathleen Slade
Name: Kathleen Slade
Mother's Maiden Surname: Peskett
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1920
Registration district: Westhampnett
Registration county: Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 700 (click to see others on page)

Looks possible this poor baby died

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Kathleen Slade
Name: Kathleen Slade
Death Registration Month/Year: 1920
Age at death (estimated): 0
Registration district: Westhampnett
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 381

Now this is where i am confused. You listed that Margaret was born 1920 at Weshampnett?but i found this:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Margaret Slade
Name: Margaret Slade
Death Registration Month/Year: 1920
Age at death (estimated): 0
Registration district: Westhampnett
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 381

So Margaret and Kathleen were i presume twins who died? Now there is a possibility that Margaret listed as dead above is infact the Margaret listed above born 1920 Q1?But was a different reg area than Westhampnett the birth for that 1.Or that the Margaret Slade born 1920 Q1 is your one instead?
Are you certain your Margaret was born in Westhampnett?

For your information the mother of the Peskett children was:

Name Spouse Surname Date of Registration District County
Kathleen M Peskett Slade Apr-May-Jun 1920 Westhampnett Sussex and father was James Slade

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about James Slade
Name: James Slade
Spouse Surname: Peskett
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1920
Registration district: Westhampnett
Registration county (inferred): Sussex
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1067
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

There were more children born to this couple.Before i look for anything else could you please confirm whether you are certain that your Margaret was born 1920 Westhampnett?both the above deaths are the same quarters as the birth Q3 1920

Michelle

Elaine

Hi if they lived in Scotland i cannot help sorry. I only have access to Scottish Census records 1841-1901. Any records after this you will need to go to this site:

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

This is a pay to view site. If they lived in England i can help?Let me know.

Thanks
Michelle

hi michelle
thanks for trying ...yer thats were i got the other marriage from...but his second marriage he moved to morecambe and married my aunt lillian..1958 im stuck with his parents as well oh well back to the drawing board....
best wishes
elaine

Elaine

If you are after Norman's parents didnt they show this information on the scottish site? Normally parents are listed on the marriage records and if you know when he married you could get that information.
Might be worth you going back to the Scottish site i listed. I presume he was born in Scotland Elaine?
Also the marriage cert of the english marriage would show his father's name.
Good luck!

Michelle

Hi Michelle.
Wondering if you can help at all I have the following family and have hit a brick wall trying to get further back.
I have Elvira Jenkins born 1872 in Maesteg, Bridgend, Glamorgan. There are 3 on free bmd. Tried family search as well, but I cannot pinpoint the exact one to get her birth cert.
I have parents William Jenkins b1845 at Carmarthen, and Margaret ?? b 1849 at Cardiff.
I have found Elvira on the 1881 census living with parents and sister Margaret Ann b1876 Maesteg, and brother Thomas b1879 Llangunch ?? Carmarthen. They are all at no2 Plough Street, ward of penydanan ??, town of Garth, in Merthyr Tyfil this is in Glamorganshire, Wales.
I cannot find a marriage cert for her parents either without a maiden name for her mother.
I have elvira's marriage to John Morgan this also shows her father as William Jenkins but no mother on it and everthing after this date 1894 regarding her 1901 census and children.
Can you help me find a birth registration so I could purchase one for her or even her brother or sister's one so I could then locate the parents marriage.
Anything would be gratefully receIved.
I will keep checking back as I know this isn't going to be easy I have tried hard myself before asking for help.
Many thanks Brenda.

Jane

I have emailed you the images of the records and also the records on my thread.
Hope they help you in solving the mystery. Let me know if i can help you any further.

Michelle

Brenda

I am happy to help you. Could i have the following information please

Marriage cert details of Elvira:

Father's occupation listed on the certificate you have
Age of Elvira listed on the certificate
Witnesses to the marriage on the certificate

Thanks

Michelle