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Hi Michelle,
This is a long short which I am trying on a number of friends whilst trying to find Mary Fryer!
The two marriage certificate(s) in 1877 of Mary Fryer and my ancestor James Perry differ. The official 'standard version' gives her father as Thomas Fryer (deceased) [the spelling of the surname is a variable], the copy from the RC church where they were actually married gives no parents' names for her, the section was left blank. The suggestion was made that she was illegitimate and was brought up by her grandfather, i.e.: Thomas Fryer, whom she claimed [and probably thought of] as father in the official certificate. As she was RC, this second record should be given more credibility.
Interestingly, there is an IGI record of a Martha Fryer baptized 27 Aug 1843 in Sedgley, illeg daughter of Martha. This daughter is not found in the GRO nor the Staffs records for the period or area (she may have been born elsewhere). Martha, the mother born 1820, seems to be the daughter of Thomas and Hannah Fryer of Sedgley, Staffs. They had a number of chuildren including Martha and a Mary. Martha got married (I think) in 1844 to William E. Miss.
It seems worthwhile to check the census records of Thomas Fryer of Sedgley for the years, say, for 1851 through 1871 to see what, if anything, they indicate about the daughters Martha and Mary, and particularly if there were grandchild(ren) living with them.
A final thought, Mary had converted to RC sometime before marrying James, it is possible that 'Mary' was her RC baptismal name; her original name could have been something else like Martha.
Best regards
Anthony

Hi Michelle
Please can you look for John Allen's family, he was born 1849 Maidstone, and his parents were William Allen born 1830c London and Mary Woollett 1830c. On 1851 census siblings of John were Flora, age 10, Sarah, 4, Mary 2 and charles 3.
Many thanks,
Sandra

Thank you Michelle for finding my Harwood family on the 1891 & 1901 census. Sorry I'm late replying, but now Summer is here i am spending more time in the garden and less time on my computer. Enjoy the Summer and don't work too hard. I will contact you again when I hit another brick wall, as you always help me out so well.
Thank you once again.
Regards
Kathleen

Hi Michelle,

Can you check the census returns for the Fryer family in Sedgley, Staffs for 1841 and 1851, please?

Anthony

Hi Michelle,
I requested help finding the wife of John Marks abt 1756 on 21st June.

Wondered if you have been able to uncover anything for me.

Many thanks
Rose

Hi michelle
YOu very kindly did some look ups for me a few months back regarding my gt grandmother Annie Louisa Hutchings. We've come quite a way!! But hit another wall!!! She also married in 1896 a Robert Whellams which i have the cert for... however in 1899 she was in a house of mercy in Essex for fallen women!! He remarried in 1916... Annie married my gt grandad in 1904. I cannot find a divorce for RObert and ANnie. ANnie left my grandad when he was 3 so around 1915/16 but i cannot find a divorce for her and Frank lewis either!!!
Also still searching for the death of Lilian Sophia lewis born 1904 in Croydon possibly died around 1918 and was living in Croydon.
I don't know if you have outgoing lists there is a poss ANnie went to Ireland!
ANy help would be great!!
Corinne

hello michell, I was hoping you could do a census check up for me...


Laurence/Lawrence (R?) Openshaw (c1806) who married a lady called Ellenor/Eleanor. I think they may of lived on Wash Lane (Brick House)

Their son was Thomas Openshaw (c1838) married to a lady called Agnes.

Thomas's son was a Alexander Openshaw married to a lay called Emily

I think Laurence/Lawrence was a mill owner.
All theses people wher from the Bury/Heywood/Birch area.
I have tried to do census checks but can't get the ones before 1881
could i possibly get a 1901 census check too.

Thanks
Lorraine

Hi Michelle I cant find one of my ancestors on the 1861 census and was hoping you could help.His name is Robert Burbage -he was born in Nottingham in 1827 and was a lacemaker by trade -his parents are Joseph and Ann and he married an Elizabeth Wheelhouse in 1852.He appears on 1841,1851 and 1871 census ( he died in 1871) but not in 1861 one .It did occur to me that he may have been involved in Crimean war or perhaps had to go into a workhouse or even prison ? Any help you can give would be gratefully received-Thanks Karen

hi michelle please could you help me anything a would be happy with
i have a percy hughes born 1911 darfield barnsley yorks.
he was married 1936 to ida wroot ,
i have marrage cert on this cert it says daniel richard hughes is percys father could you take a look for daniel richard hughes please
at time of marrage he was living in darfield barnsley yorks in1936.
thank you

Karen

Hi Karen here is the 1861 you requested.It was under Burbidge

1861 England Census
about Robert Burbidge
Name: Robert Burbidge
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Hyson Green, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Sherwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Burbidge 33
Elizabeth Burbidge 32
John Burbidge 3
Ann Burbidge 7
Kate Burbidge 4
William Burbidge 3
Allan Burbidge 6 Mo

1861 England Census
about Elizabeth Burbidge
Name: Elizabeth Burbidge
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottm, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Sherwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Burbidge 33
Elizabeth Burbidge 32
John Burbidge 3
Ann Burbidge 7
Kate Burbidge 4
William Burbidge 3
Allan Burbidge 6 Mo

1861 England Census
about John Burbidge
Name: John Burbidge
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottm, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Sherwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Burbidge 33
Elizabeth Burbidge 32
John Burbidge 3
Ann Burbidge 7
Kate Burbidge 4
William Burbidge 3
Allan Burbidge 6 Mo

1861 England Census
about Ann Burbidge
Name: Ann Burbidge
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottm, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Sherwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Burbidge 33
Elizabeth Burbidge 32
John Burbidge 3
Ann Burbidge 7
Kate Burbidge 4
William Burbidge 3
Allan Burbidge 6 Mo

1861 England Census
about Kate Burbidge
Name: Kate Burbidge
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottm, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Sherwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Burbidge 33
Elizabeth Burbidge 32
John Burbidge 3
Ann Burbidge 7
Kate Burbidge 4
William Burbidge 3
Allan Burbidge 6 Mo

Continue.....

Karen

1861 Continued..

1861 England Census
about William Burbidge
Name: William Burbidge
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottm, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Sherwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Burbidge 33
Elizabeth Burbidge 32
John Burbidge 3
Ann Burbidge 7
Kate Burbidge 4
William Burbidge 3
Allan Burbidge 6 Mo

1861 England Census
about Allan Burbidge
Name: Allan Burbidge
Age: 6 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottm, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Sherwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Burbidge 33
Elizabeth Burbidge 32
John Burbidge 3
Ann Burbidge 7
Kate Burbidge 4
William Burbidge 3
Allan Burbidge 6 Mo

Robert a Lace Maker
Elizabeth Paper hat maker??not sure of 2nd word.,sorry could be box?

Shemp

Hi there!could you give me more details please?

father's(Daniel) occupation on the marriage cert?
Witnesses to the marriage?

Also do you have the birth cert of Percy?And do you know of any siblings of Percy?

Michelle

hi there michelle i dont have birth cert waiting for heratage day at darfield.
on percy hughes marrage cert his father daniel is a miner .
witnesses for percy hughes marrage w.r wroot and honer green .
percy hughes had 12maybe 13 siblings .
my husband asked his mother here are a few of them she can remember but she had little contact with them.
eric.harold.kath.danny and ernest who married a woman called irene.
it appeared the only time my mother in law came in contact with the hughes is at funerals.thank you

Shemp

Hi been doing a little detective work and i have found a possible marriage in 1904 of Daniel Hughes.He married i believe Ada Margison


Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Elizabeth Dobbins 1904 Barnsley Yorkshire - West Riding
View Record
Daniel Hughes 1904 Barnsley Yorkshire - West Riding
View Record
Ada Margison 1904 Barnsley Yorkshire - West Riding
View Record
Albert Pooley 1904 Barnsley Yorkshire - West Riding

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Daniel Hughes
Name: Daniel Hughes
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Barnsley
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 351 (click to see others on page)


Michelle

I found these possible siblings based on the names you gave me which all have the mother's maiden name Margison

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Kathleen Hughes
Name: Kathleen Hughes
Mother's Maiden Surname: Margison
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1917
Registration district: Barnsley
Registration county: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 482 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Daniel R Hughes
Name: Daniel R Hughes
Mother's Maiden Surname: Margison
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1920
Registration district: Barnsley
Registration county: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 665 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Ernest Hughes
Name: Ernest Hughes
Mother's Maiden Surname: Margison
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1924
Registration district: Barnsley
Registration county: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 535 (click to see others on page)

Eric was 1929

also found a Frances

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Frances M Hughes
Name: Frances M Hughes
Mother's Maiden Surname: Margison
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1916
Registration district: Barnsley
Registration county: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 539 (click to see others on page)

also a Hilda

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Hilda Hughes
Name: Hilda Hughes
Mother's Maiden Surname: Margison
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1922
Registration district: Barnsley
Registration county: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 533 (click to see others on page)

and a Walter 1926

and a Vera

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Vera Hughes
Name: Vera Hughes
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Margison
District: Barnsley
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 632 (click to see others on page)

But to be certain on this info i am advising you to get the birth cert of 1911 of Percy.As the mother's maiden name is not on this record because it was before the time they were placed on the record.We cannot be certain that this is indeed the correct mother as Ada.
I have seen Ada i believe on the census records but it's best you get the cert first to ensure Ada was Percy's mother.
Did check the 1911 and saw a Ada Hughes living with a Daniel Hughes so if you have credits maybe worth a look.Ada was listed as born in Darfield in 1884.This does match the Ada Margison i found on the 1891 census.

im in barnsley tomorrow at archives so i will nip and get cert to make sure and thank you ever so much for your help.

n

Hi Michelle

I am looking for a John Colley he was born in Cheshire in 1853/4. I have seen him on the 1891 census but would love it if you could find him on an earlier one so I could know about who his parents are. Also it would be great if you could find out about his marriage to a Mary, but this may not be possible as I don't know her maiden name or the date, I'm guessing they married about 1874 as their first child was born the next year. Any help would be fantastic!!

Thanks,
Nicola

Nicola

Hi there!

Here looks like the marriage to Mary

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
John Colley 1875 Chester Cheshire, Flintshire
View Record
Mary Lancelotte 1875 Chester Cheshire, Flintshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about John Colley
Name: John Colley
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Chester
County: Cheshire, Flintshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 572 (click to see others on page)

This is Mary on the 1891 married to John,i will then post Mary before marriage so you can compare details of birthyear and place and see she is the correct Mary

1891 England Census
about Mary Colley
Name: Mary Colley
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Mollington, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Willaston
Ecclesiastical parish: Willaston
Town: Willaston
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wirral
Sub-registration district: Neston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Colley 37
Mary Colley 37
William Colley 16
Alice Mary Colley 12
Joseph Crofts Colley 11
Samuel Colley 9
John Edward Colley 2

Here is Mary with her parents and siblings on the 1861.I will list them in order of the family with the head first.

1861 England Census
about William Lancelott
Name: William Lancelott
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jemima
Gender: Male
Where born: Mollington, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Great Mollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
William Lancelott 39
Jemima Lancelott 39
Joseph Lancelott 10
John Lancelott 9
Mary Lancelott 7
Jemina Lancelott 5
Margaret Lancelott 2
William Lancelott 1
Thomas Mouldsdale 23

1861 England Census
about Jemima Lancelott
Name: Jemima Lancelott
[Jemima Crofts]
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Great Mollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
William Lancelott 39
Jemima Lancelott 39
Joseph Lancelott 10
John Lancelott 9
Mary Lancelott 7
Jemina Lancelott 5
Margaret Lancelott 2
William Lancelott 1
Thomas Mouldsdale 23

1861 England Census
about Joseph Lancelott
Name: Joseph Lancelott
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jemima
Gender: Male
Where born: Mollington, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Great Mollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
William Lancelott 39
Jemima Lancelott 39
Joseph Lancelott 10
John Lancelott 9
Mary Lancelott 7
Jemina Lancelott 5
Margaret Lancelott 2
William Lancelott 1
Thomas Mouldsdale 23

Continued....

Nicola

1861 Continued....

1861 England Census
about John Lancelott
Name: John Lancelott
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jemima
Gender: Male
Where born: Mollington, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Great Mollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
William Lancelott 39
Jemima Lancelott 39
Joseph Lancelott 10
John Lancelott 9
Mary Lancelott 7
Jemina Lancelott 5
Margaret Lancelott 2
William Lancelott 1
Thomas Mouldsdale 23

1861 England Census
about Mary Lancelott
Name: Mary Lancelott
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jemima
Gender: Female
Where born: Mollington, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Great Mollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
William Lancelott 39
Jemima Lancelott 39
Joseph Lancelott 10
John Lancelott 9
Mary Lancelott 7
Jemina Lancelott 5
Margaret Lancelott 2
William Lancelott 1
Thomas Mouldsdale 23

1861 England Census
about Jemina Lancelott
Name: Jemina Lancelott
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jemima
Gender: Female
Where born: Mollington, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Great Mollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
William Lancelott 39
Jemima Lancelott 39
Joseph Lancelott 10
John Lancelott 9
Mary Lancelott 7
Jemina Lancelott 5
Margaret Lancelott 2
William Lancelott 1
Thomas Mouldsdale 23

1861 England Census
about Margaret Lancelott
Name: Margaret Lancelott
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jemima
Gender: Female
Where born: Mollington, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Great Mollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
William Lancelott 39
Jemima Lancelott 39
Joseph Lancelott 10
John Lancelott 9
Mary Lancelott 7
Jemina Lancelott 5
Margaret Lancelott 2
William Lancelott 1
Thomas Mouldsdale 23

1861 England Census
about William Lancelott
Name: William Lancelott
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jemima
Gender: Male
Where born: Mollington, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Great Mollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
William Lancelott 39
Jemima Lancelott 39
Joseph Lancelott 10
John Lancelott 9
Mary Lancelott 7
Jemina Lancelott 5
Margaret Lancelott 2
William Lancelott 1
Thomas Mouldsdale 23

Continue....

Nicola

Last person on the 1861 for Mary and family

1861 England Census
about Thomas Mouldsdale
Name: Thomas Mouldsdale
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Weston, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Great Mollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
William Lancelott 39
Jemima Lancelott 39
Joseph Lancelott 10
John Lancelott 9
Mary Lancelott 7
Jemina Lancelott 5
Margaret Lancelott 2
William Lancelott 1
Thomas Mouldsdale 23

William a Shoe Maker
Thomas a Carter

Writing as usual is not brill on the image!Address looks like Parkgate Road??

Will look for more on John now