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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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Blue1

Blue1 Report 18 May 2009 20:58

Hi Michelle,
Re the Plackett's your reply yesterday 10.22
Thanks for looking for me,I will be ordering the 1829 as you suggest,but the problem I have been having is i can't even find the son Richard on a census after his birth in 1830 or before his marriage in 1863.This son died in 1890 registered in Lambeth and was married in Lambeth.
The whole bunch of them are missing including the son Richard who was alive in 1841
It's very strange!
The only thing I can think of is that they were travellers or something like that.
Any way thanks again for your time.

Blue

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 19 May 2009 14:33

Hi Michelle, please may I call upon your expertise once again?

I have a family of Goodwins from Kent who keep using the same names and I'd like to sort out who belongs to whom so could I please ask for a census search? I am currently trawling through Medway City Ark to confirm baptisms etc. so far I have discovered the following:



1) Richard Dennis Goodwin born possibly Meopham, Kent c1800. Wife Sarah. Their children included : Ann, Elizabeth, Eleanor, Caroline, Richard Dennis, Adelaide and Thomas - all born between 1820-1834.


2) Richard Goodwin born 1790 in Meopham, Kent. Wife Susan. Their children included: Richard, Thomas, Ann, Elizabeth, William, JOhn, Edward, Harriett, Sarah, and Mary - all born between 1815-1837.



3) Richard born probably Meopham similar time. wife Mary. Possible chldren Harriett 1844 and Mary 1851. Very unsure about this chappie as you can tell.

Some of the forebears seem to have originated from Ash in Kent and Hartley in Kent but all ended up in Meopham!!! Just to confuse me I think!

I am hoping a census search will put them into place for me. Very grateful. Thanks.

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 19 May 2009 16:14

Michelle

Thank you so much for all your work on my Brownjohns

You have helped me to sort this line of the family out as far as is possible if the relevant 1841 census is missing -they do belong to the Newbury Berkshire Brownjohns but I was not sure why this Elisha went to London !

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 May 2009 09:55

Cynthia

Just taking a look for you...not finding exact matches at mo,so here is a few possibles to look at.

1841 England Census
about Sarah Goodwin
Name: Sarah Goodwin
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Goodwin 35
Thomas Goodwin 12
John Goodwin 11
Mary Goodwin 10
James Goodwin 7

1841 England Census
about Thomas Goodwin
Name: Thomas Goodwin
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Goodwin 35
Thomas Goodwin 12
John Goodwin 11
Mary Goodwin 10
James Goodwin 7

1841 England Census
about John Goodwin
Name: John Goodwin
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Goodwin 35
Thomas Goodwin 12
John Goodwin 11
Mary Goodwin 10
James Goodwin 7

1841 England Census
about Mary Goodwin
Name: Mary Goodwin
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Goodwin 35
Thomas Goodwin 12
John Goodwin 11
Mary Goodwin 10
James Goodwin 7

1841 England Census
about James Goodwin
Name: James Goodwin
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Goodwin 35
Thomas Goodwin 12
John Goodwin 11
Mary Goodwin 10
James Goodwin 7

No occupations listed

Address South Street














***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 May 2009 10:01

Cynthia

Another possible

1841 England Census
about Richard Goodwin
Name: Richard Goodwin
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Goodwin 30
Susana Goodwin 45
Ann Goodwin 20
John Goodwin 25
William Goodwin 15
Sarah Goodwin 12
Harriot Goodwin 10
Edward Goodwin 7
Mary Goodwin 4

1841 England Census
about Susana Goodwin
Name: Susana Goodwin
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Goodwin 30
Susana Goodwin 45
Ann Goodwin 20
John Goodwin 25
William Goodwin 15
Sarah Goodwin 12
Harriot Goodwin 10
Edward Goodwin 7
Mary Goodwin 4

1841 England Census
about Ann Goodwin
Name: Ann Goodwin
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Goodwin 30
Susana Goodwin 45
Ann Goodwin 20
John Goodwin 25
William Goodwin 15
Sarah Goodwin 12
Harriot Goodwin 10
Edward Goodwin 7
Mary Goodwin 4

1841 England Census
about John Goodwin
Name: John Goodwin
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Goodwin 30
Susana Goodwin 45
Ann Goodwin 20
John Goodwin 25
William Goodwin 15
Sarah Goodwin 12
Harriot Goodwin 10
Edward Goodwin 7
Mary Goodwin 4

1841 England Census
about William Goodwin
Name: William Goodwin
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Goodwin 30
Susana Goodwin 45
Ann Goodwin 20
John Goodwin 25
William Goodwin 15
Sarah Goodwin 12
Harriot Goodwin 10
Edward Goodwin 7
Mary Goodwin 4

1841 England Census
about Sarah Goodwin
Name: Sarah Goodwin
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Goodwin 30
Susana Goodwin 45
Ann Goodwin 20
John Goodwin 25
William Goodwin 15
Sarah Goodwin 12
Harriot Goodwin 10
Edward Goodwin 7
Mary Goodwin 4

1841 England Census
about Harriot Goodwin
Name: Harriot Goodwin
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Goodwin 30
Susana Goodwin 45
Ann Goodwin 20
John Goodwin 25
William Goodwin 15
Sarah Goodwin 12
Harriot Goodwin 10
Edward Goodwin 7
Mary Goodwin 4

Continue....





















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 May 2009 10:03

Cynthia

1841 poss continued...

1841 England Census
about Edward Goodwin
Name: Edward Goodwin
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Goodwin 30
Susana Goodwin 45
Ann Goodwin 20
John Goodwin 25
William Goodwin 15
Sarah Goodwin 12
Harriot Goodwin 10
Edward Goodwin 7
Mary Goodwin 4

1841 England Census
about Mary Goodwin
Name: Mary Goodwin
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Goodwin 30
Susana Goodwin 45
Ann Goodwin 20
John Goodwin 25
William Goodwin 15
Sarah Goodwin 12
Harriot Goodwin 10
Edward Goodwin 7
Mary Goodwin 4

Richard a Thatcher,looking at the image i think his age should be 50 and that would make c1791 birthyear.

Address David Street





Ozqld

Ozqld Report 20 May 2009 10:04

Hi Michelle

Thankyou for your offer to do Census Lookups, I am hoping you can help me as I have exhausted all my abilities at going through the Census.

I am looking for the whereabouts of a Thomas Anslemn Ribchester, he was born in 1843 and his parents were James John Ribchester and Alice Winstanley, I have found him on the Census up until 1861, after that he married in 1864 a Mary Donaldson, they had three children Margaret born in 1865 and died in 1868, John born in 1866 and Isabella Annie born in 1868 died in 1871.

Both Margaret and Isabella Annie died, the last to die was Isabella Annie born 1868 and died in March 1871. I have found the boy John living in 1871 with Mary nee Donaldsons sister Flora Harrison and her husband, but I can't seem to find where Thomas and Mary were in 1871, Isabella Annie died in Broughton, Preston March 1871 so I would assume they would be somewhere in that area but I can't for the life of me find a record of it on the Census.

As you do this Census Search, I am hoping it will be a lot easier for you than me to find them, if you can't find them then I don't think anyone can.

I look forward to hearing from you soon, thanks for your offer of help, it is much appreciated.

Kind Regards
Christine

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 May 2009 10:31

Cynthia

1851 England Census
about Richd Goodwin
Name: Richd Goodwin
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Richd Goodwin 36
Mary Goodwin 29
Emma Goodwin 9
Harriet Goodwin 6
Mary Ann Goodwin 7 Mo

1851 England Census
about Mary Goodwin
Name: Mary Goodwin
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Richd
Gender: Female
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Richd Goodwin 36
Mary Goodwin 29
Emma Goodwin 9
Harriet Goodwin 6
Mary Ann Goodwin 7 Mo

1851 England Census
about Emma Goodwin
Name: Emma Goodwin
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richd
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Richd Goodwin 36
Mary Goodwin 29
Emma Goodwin 9
Harriet Goodwin 6
Mary Ann Goodwin 7 Mo

1851 England Census
about Harriet Goodwin
Name: Harriet Goodwin
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richd
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Richd Goodwin 36
Mary Goodwin 29
Emma Goodwin 9
Harriet Goodwin 6
Mary Ann Goodwin 7 Mo

1851 England Census
about Mary Ann Goodwin
Name: Mary Ann Goodwin
Age: 7 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richd
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Meopham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Meopham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Richd Goodwin 36
Mary Goodwin 29
Emma Goodwin 9
Harriet Goodwin 6
Mary Ann Goodwin 7 Mo

Richard a Grocer

Address Hook Green














***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 May 2009 11:26

Christine

I think this could be your problem with finding them

Known problems with the 1871 Census
The following is a list of parishes where either part or all of the parish is missing.

Piece County Parishes and Hamlets
3278 Leicestershire St Margaret, Leicester
4213 Lancashire Preston
4729 Yorkshire Eastoft and Haldenby
5444 Glamorgan Llangyfelach, Penderry, and Llandilotalybont
5590 Breconshire Talgarth, Grwyne-fawr, and Grwyne-fechan

Notice Preston is on the list...

Have you found them after 1861 at all?Have you looked for a death?

Found this poss death

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Thomas Ribchester
Name: Thomas Ribchester
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 29
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 329 (click to see others on page)

Couldn't see a Thomas Ribchester on the 1861 matching this 1.Infact only Thomas Ribchester's that show on the 1861 is your one and one in Cumberland and i have found the death for the Cumberland 1.

So not good news re 1871...im afraid if the piece is missing..not alot you can do.

Ozqld

Ozqld Report 20 May 2009 11:55

Hi Michelle

Thankyou so much for your information on the missing Census pieces, it makes sense to me now.

Do you know what happened to the missing parts, are we able to find them at all.

I also have the death you found for Thomas in Sunderland, I just don't think it is him, but I may have to get the death certificate to put me out of my misery.

Thanks once again for all your help, it is much appreciated.

Christine

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 May 2009 12:33

Christine

Do you have Mary wife of Thomas's birthyear and place?I wonder if she remarried and need her details to check this.

Re the missing pieces looked on 2 ref sites and they missing on both.I should imagine they were lost or maybe destroyed at some point.

Best people to ask would be the Lancashire Records Office.

Michelle

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 20 May 2009 13:43

Hi Michelle I am, once again, very grateful for your help. I will print this info off and study it in detail. I never ceased to be surprised at how many children these families had.......and then they go and give them 'family' names....Argggh. Why couldn't some of them use their imagination occasionally and choose a name that was different???/

Thanks again. Regards. Cynthia.

Ozqld

Ozqld Report 20 May 2009 22:57

Hi Michelle

I found a Mary Ribchester marrying ages ago but wasn't sure if it was her, I now believe it could be her but what happened to Thomas, is he the Thomas who died in Sunderland and why was he there.

I have Mary Donalsdons birth as 1845 AMJ Vol 25 Page 210
2nd marriage to James John Holmes 1874 JFM Vol 8e Page 726 or PRESTON/56/28.

On the 1861 Census with Mary's family are brothers Thomas & Joseph Holmes RG/9/3170

On 1881 Census Mary & James with two children RG/11/4605.

On 1891 Census Mary & James with 3 children RG/12/3664

If this is Thomas' Mary, why didn't she collect her son John from her sister Flora when she remarried. We think as Flora was childless she deceided to leave John with her and restart a new life.

Thats as far as I have got, I should be looking for a death of Mary and try and trace her children if in fact it is her.

Hope this helps, Christine

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 22 May 2009 10:12

Hi Michelle
Any luck with the possible emigration out of the UK by John and Charlotte Harwood and their daughter Charlotte? You said that they didn't appear on the 1891 or 1901 census'.
Thans
regards
Kathleen

Sandra

Sandra Report 22 May 2009 10:40

Hi Michelle
Would you please look up for me any info on Harriet Ruler born 1855 and her parents Robert John Ruler 1832c Bermondsey, he was married to Elizabeth Moss 1820 Rotherhithe.
Many thanks,
Sandra

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 22 May 2009 21:55

Kath

hope you was happy with what i did find?I will look again but i do not having UK departures...only UK Incoming,

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 22 May 2009 22:22

Sandra

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Harriet Moss Ruler
Name: Harriet Moss Ruler
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Rotherhithe (To 1869)
County: Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 504 (click to see others on page)

Her marriage

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Harriet Moss Ruler
Name: Harriet Moss Ruler
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: St Olave Southwark (1837-1901)
County: London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 395 (click to see others on page

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
John Allen 1876 St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) London, Surrey
View Record
Charlotte Chater 1876 St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) London, Surrey
View Record
Harriet Moss Ruler 1876 St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) London, Surrey
View Record
William Walford 1876 St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) London, Surrey

Ok...well i can see why you may have found this 1 a tricky 1!!They are not showing under Ruler...on the 1861 the image looks like Ruler to me but is transcribed as Rider..on the 1851 is clearly down as Rider.So you may think...well it must be Rider then..and therefore wrong people,BUT i have looked futher into this and found the marriage of 1842 and her middlename is Burnett and the 1851 i have found with the Rider surname has Elizabeth Bt written down...appreviation of Burnett.Robert's birthyear you have is out...he married in 1842..and was born c1823.
Well...are you confused???I am...!!!!

I will post what i have found and it will make sense then...i hope!The 1861 as i have already mentioned is clearly Ruler on the image.

Here is the marriage 1st and look at the different spellings for surname!!

Elizabeth Burnett Moss 1842 Greenwich Greater London, Kent, London
View Record
Robert John Reeder 1842 Greenwich Greater London, Kent, London
View Record
Robert John Ruder 1842 Greenwich Greater London, Kent, London
View Record
Robert John Ruler 1842 Greenwich Greater London, Kent, London

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Robert John Ruler
Name: Robert John Ruler
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Greenwich
County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 5
Page: 261 (click to see others on page)





***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 22 May 2009 22:25

Sandra

Here is the 1851 i mentioned-remember listed as Rider

1851 England Census
about Robert Jno Rider
Name: Robert Jno Rider
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth Bt
Gender: Male
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Jno Rider 28
Elizabeth Bt Rider 28
Elizabeth Rider 8
Sarah Ann Rider 7
Robert Jno Rider 5
Mary Ann Rider 3
Isabella Harriett Rider 5 Mo

1851 England Census
about Elizabeth Bt Rider
Name: Elizabeth Bt Rider
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Robert Jno
Gender: Female
Where born: Rotherhithe, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Jno Rider 28
Elizabeth Bt Rider 28
Elizabeth Rider 8
Sarah Ann Rider 7
Robert Jno Rider 5
Mary Ann Rider 3
Isabella Harriett Rider 5 Mo

1851 England Census
about Elizabeth Rider
Name: Elizabeth Rider
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Jno
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Bt
Gender: Female
Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Jno Rider 28
Elizabeth Bt Rider 28
Elizabeth Rider 8
Sarah Ann Rider 7
Robert Jno Rider 5
Mary Ann Rider 3
Isabella Harriett Rider 5 Mo

1851 England Census
about Sarah Ann Rider
Name: Sarah Ann Rider
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Jno
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Bt
Gender: Female
Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Jno Rider 28
Elizabeth Bt Rider 28
Elizabeth Rider 8
Sarah Ann Rider 7
Robert Jno Rider 5
Mary Ann Rider 3
Isabella Harriett Rider 5 Mo

1851 England Census
about Robert Jno Rider
Name: Robert Jno Rider
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Jno
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Bt
Gender: Male
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Jno Rider 28
Elizabeth Bt Rider 28
Elizabeth Rider 8
Sarah Ann Rider 7
Robert Jno Rider 5
Mary Ann Rider 3
Isabella Harriett Rider 5 Mo

Continue....
















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 22 May 2009 22:28

Sandra

1851 Continued....

1851 England Census
about Isabella Harriett Rider
Name: Isabella Harriett Rider
Age: 5 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Jno
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Bt
Gender: Female
Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Jno Rider 28
Elizabeth Bt Rider 28
Elizabeth Rider 8
Sarah Ann Rider 7
Robert Jno Rider 5
Mary Ann Rider 3
Isabella Harriett Rider 5 Mo

Robert a Engineer..Machinist

Address 5 Marigold Street


***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 22 May 2009 22:44

Sandra

Have found a poss death in 1859 for Robert???

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Robert John Ruler
Name: Robert John Ruler
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Newington
County: Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 138 (click to see others on page)

This is the 1 i mentioned to you as looking like Ruler on the image..99% certain it's Ruler

1861 England Census
about Elizabeth Rider
Name: Elizabeth Rider
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Rotherhithe, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 215
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Rider 35
Elizabeth Rider 17
Sarah A Rider 16
Robert J Rider 14
Mary A Rider 13
Isabella Rider 10
Phillis Rider 7
Harriet Rider 5
John Rider 3
Sarah Palmer 45
Sarah Palmer 8
John Palmer 22
James Palmer 17
Thomas Palmer 5

1861 England Census
about Elizabeth Rider
Name: Elizabeth Rider
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 215
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Rider 35
Elizabeth Rider 17
Sarah A Rider 16
Robert J Rider 14
Mary A Rider 13
Isabella Rider 10
Phillis Rider 7
Harriet Rider 5
John Rider 3
Sarah Palmer 45
Sarah Palmer 8
John Palmer 22
James Palmer 17
Thomas Palmer 5

1861 England Census
about Sarah A Rider
Name: Sarah A Rider
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 215
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Rider 35
Elizabeth Rider 17
Sarah A Rider 16
Robert J Rider 14
Mary A Rider 13
Isabella Rider 10
Phillis Rider 7
Harriet Rider 5
John Rider 3
Sarah Palmer 45
Sarah Palmer 8
John Palmer 22
James Palmer 17
Thomas Palmer 5

1861 England Census
about Robert J Rider
Name: Robert J Rider
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Margton, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 215
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Rider 35
Elizabeth Rider 17
Sarah A Rider 16
Robert J Rider 14
Mary A Rider 13
Isabella Rider 10
Phillis Rider 7
Harriet Rider 5
John Rider 3
Sarah Palmer 45
Sarah Palmer 8
John Palmer 22
James Palmer 17
Thomas Palmer 5

1861 England Census
about Mary A Rider
Name: Mary A Rider
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Margton, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 215
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Rider 35
Elizabeth Rider 17
Sarah A Rider 16
Robert J Rider 14
Mary A Rider 13
Isabella Rider 10
Phillis Rider 7
Harriet Rider 5
John Rider 3
Sarah Palmer 45
Sarah Palmer 8
John Palmer 22
James Palmer 17
Thomas Palmer 5

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