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1871 Census

1871 England Census
about Joseph Turnock
Name: Joseph Turnock
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Worth
Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton St George
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Turnock 69
Mary Turnock 67

1871 England Census
about Mary Turnock
Name: Mary Turnock
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Worth
Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton St George
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Turnock 69
Mary Turnock 67

Joseph a Colliey Labourer

Address same as 1861...well looks the same

Dale House Fold?looks like a F but is def Dale House ...F?old

hi michelle,
sorry to keep bothering you as i no your busy
but did you manage to find 1871 census for
wolfe st toxteth park liverpool, for either
mary mccann 22 or eugene devetter 25,
thanx
val

Val

When i last looked a few days ago no i could not see them.I have not been on alot the past few days cos of work and its my son's birthday today..May 1st.

I will take a look again as i had a huge amount on my mind when i last looked starting my new job which is a demanding job and my mind is clearer now and back to normal!!i will take a look this eve...later today.

Sorry i have not been very reliable i am normally!

Michelle

Hi Michelle. I am truly amazed i would never have found Samuel and Maria Williams in 1881 in a million years. Thank you very much it is appreciated. Thanks Maurice.

HI MICHELLE, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL INFO GIVEN YOU ARE BRILLIANT,I WILL ORDER A BIRTH CERT FOR CHARLES AND ELLEN TO FIND FATHERS NAMES AND VERY LIKELY BE ASKING YOU FOR MORE HELP THANK YOU SO MUCH AND BEST WISHES IRENE

Hi Michelle
Can you please have a look on the 1871 census for:
Frederick William Davis b 1864 Clerkenwell, London
Father George Wade b c1808 St Luke, London occupation Pewterer Journeyman (he might be dead)
Mother Sarah Wade b c 1826/27 St Andrew Holborn (she remarried and may be under Sarah Baird)
Sister Emma b 1861 Clerkenwell
other siblings
Richard 1845
Susan 1847
Robert 1849
Sarah 1853
All born Clerkenwell

Thanks very much

Thanks Michelle for the 1851/1861 census details for Josepth Turnock's family. Did you have any luck with the other Turnock?
Mary Turnock c1817 Poynton, married to Levi Norbury c1816 Liverpool also on the 1851/1861 census.
I know you are busy with the new job and your family, I don't know where you find the time to answer all your mail and do the look ups. I suspect you are really Wonder Woman pretending to be Michelle!!
I will have patience.
Regards
Kathleen

Hi Michelle
I wonder if you could help track my Great Grandfather. His name is Antonio Borgna lived and married in Lambeth, London in 1896 -bride Ruth Loades. Sadly she died bearing her second child Frank. I know that my grandmother Teresa moved to live with her grandparents in 1899 to Great Yarmouth.
We understand that Antonio left the UK in 1908 to go to USA and we find a record of him in Ohio ( I think) in 1920. He was born in Italy in 1874, but would like to know where he came from, when he arrived, and when he left to go to America.

Can you help?

Kath

Thanks for your kind words.I wish i was Superwoman!!Sorry i had forgotten the 1851-61 for Mary...here is it

1851 England Census
about Levi Norbury
Name: Levi Norbury
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Nortwry, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Levi Norbury 35
Mary Norbury 34

1851 England Census
about Mary Norbury
Name: Mary Norbury
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Levi
Gender: Female
Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Levi Norbury 35
Mary Norbury 34

Levi looks like Tile Maker..looks like Managing before tile maker?

Address Dale House Fold

1861 Census

1861 England Census
about Lin Norbury
Name: Lin Norbury
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Lin Norbury 45
Mary Norbury 43
Ann Bramall 82

1861 England Census
about Mary Norbury
Name: Mary Norbury
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Lin
Gender: Female
Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Lin Norbury 45
Mary Norbury 43
Ann Bramall 82

1861 England Census
about Ann Bramall
Name: Ann Bramall
Age: 82
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1779
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Hallifax, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Lin Norbury 45
Mary Norbury 43
Ann Bramall 82

Levi is not Lin name mistranscribed
Levi was a Farmer of 4 acres
Ann a Propriotor of Houses

Address Dale Farm House in same area as the Dale House Fold mentioned on the 1851.

Kats

Can i check with you re the surname?Frederick you list as Davis and both parents as Wade.Was Davis the mother's maiden name?

Thanks
Michelle

Michelle, sorry getting all the branches of my tree mixed up
Father was George Davis b c 1808
Mother Sarah Davis c c 1826/27 St Andrew Holborn

Kats

Looks like Sarah married in 1872

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
William Baird 1872 London City Greater London, London, Middlesex
View Record

Sarah Davis 1872 London City Greater London, London, Middlesex
View Record

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Sarah Davis
Name: Sarah Davis
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: London City
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 148 (click to see others on page)

So in theory should be under Davis so will have a look.

Kats

Frederick was born in 1864

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Frederick William Davis
Name: Frederick William Davis
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Clerkenwell
County: Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 536 (click to see others on page)

Only poss death i can see is in 1864 for George under Frederick George Davis and is the only 1 for Clerkenwell area

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Frederick George Davis
Name: Frederick George Davis
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Clerkenwell
County: Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 425 (click to see others on page)

The birth was registered in December.Death in Q3 for the poss for George i found.

I am trying to see if to look for Sarah with George or not.I think he was dead.Will continue searching the 1871.

Hi Michelle, I just hate to ask again because I know that you have been so busy with a new job and family etc but I was wondering how you got on with my query re my gt grandmother Elizabeth McCannah who decided to change her surname to Goulton when she registered some of her children's births.

I expect that it is proving very difficult, so hopefully you have had some luck.
Once again sorry to bother you again.

With kind regards

Jill

Kats

Can't see the 1871 at moment???I will try again but must move on as i have got behind starting my new job the other week and i have a few i need to go back onto.

Michelle

Jill

Did look before and had no luck and did mean to return back to yours...and then had lots of new requests come through and forgot...so sorry!

Will look again i feel this 1 is tricky cos there is only 1 census to work off the 1871 and the surname is uncertain which makes it even harder.I will need time to look and will prob have to come back to this when next on cos its late and i am up early out to work and school runs 1st thing.

Michelle

Thank you Michelle I appreciate the time and effort you are putting in together with all your other work load. You are very kind to spend time helping people.

Kind regards

Jill

Michelle, thanks for the info, know how busy you are. Look forward to hopefully finding out something later.

Kats

Jill

I wish i had good news for you...i have been looking for hours and i can't see them.I'm wondering if her father William was Irish and lived in Ireland?Maybe she was born in Hampshire as listed on the 1891 but i can't see her birth registered?It was not compulsory to register births till 1875 though.

If William was Irish it is possible that we do not view Elizabeth on the 1871 and they may have been visiting Ireland?Do you know if he was Irish?The surname could have been mistranscribed and as there is confusion of the 2 surnames,it makes this tricky.I do find most mistranscripts though and like i say i have been looking all eve.There are William's with similar surnames on the census records who are Shoemaker's but the birthyears for 1 in particular i found was way out and also looked back on him and no ELizabeth??

Sorry i haven't helped much.My advise now would be to contact Southampton records office with the info you have...copies of certs and all details and see if they maybe able to find something in the records.
Another thing to try is to post a lookup request on the Records Office Board for this family...alot of eyes may well see something i haven't.
Best of luck and keep me informed.

Michelle

Hi Michelle, thank you very much for all your time and effort. I wish I knew whether he was Irish or not. I know several of Elizabeth's children were born in Ireland but I believe that is only because James was in the army and posted there.

As with most families, stories are told which are proved unfounded and one told to me was that an ancester was a shoemaker to the young Queen Victoria in Scotland. With all the other tales that I have disovered so far in my family have proved untrue, I dismissed William, as a shoemaker, as being one of those.

Sadly I do not have any-one in my family to ask but I will contact the Southampton Record Office as you suggested and see what happens.

Thank you once again for all your time and effort.

With kind regards

Jill