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Judith

Judith Report 23 Mar 2010 11:05

Hi, I have a Samuel Clarke born c1803 in either Oddington or Murcott I have his wife and his children but can't go any further back can you help?

Margaret

Margaret Report 23 Mar 2010 11:46

KATHLEEN ANN after looking at the 1841 census, decided to investigate further. Here are the baptisms of the children of Jonathan Britton 40 yrs Policeman of Berkshire on the 1841.
Anne Elizabeth 6/10/1822 father victualler of East Street St Helens
Sarah 29/2/1824 ditto
William 26/1/1826 private baptism
Francis 3/2/1828 father victualler of East Street
John Stiles 8/8/1830 father Victualler of West Street St Helens
Jonathan born 20/7/1833 baptised 24/12/1837 his father a mason
Caleb born 18/12/1834 baptised 24/12/1837 father a mason.
Up to and including John Stiles Britton born 8/8/1830 these were the children of
Jonathan Britton and Alice nee Stiles

Margaret

Margaret Report 23 Mar 2010 11:49

KATHLEEN ANN continued
Jonathan and Alice Stiles had married 29/5/1821 in St Helens Abingdon
Alice had been baptised St Helens Abingdon 30/6/1799 daughter of Robert and Ann, he a mason.
Alice was buried in St Helens Abingdon 20/3/1831 aged 31 yrs of East Street Abingdon.
Then Jonathan Britton remarried to the Esther who had been aged 40 yrs on the 1841 census
Jonathan britton married Oxford St Thomas Esther Chapman 27/10/1831
Jonathan Britton was buried in St Helens Abingdon and had lived at the time of his death at the Churchyard Almshouse he was buried 28/11/1877 aged 84 yrs. So there fore born c 1783.

Margaret

Margaret Report 23 Mar 2010 11:54

KATHLEEN ANN continued
Jonathan Britton had been baptised 21/7/1795 St Helens Abingdon son of Francis and Mary he a mason.
Francis Britton had married Mary Sparkes a widow in St Helens Abingdon 7/2/1786
they had
Sarah
baptised 13/8/1786 daughter of Francis and Mary father a mason
William 20/4/1788 son of Francis and Mary father a mason
Jonathan 21/7/1795 ditto
Jane 10/6/1798 ditto

Francis Britain was baptised 10/9/1769 in Steventon Abingdon berks son of Francis and Elizabeth

Margaret

Margaret Report 23 Mar 2010 11:56

KATHLEEN ANN continued
Francis Britain was buried in Steventon 26/3/1818 aged 84 yrs
Mary his perhaps wife was buried in Steventon 7/7/1812 no age given.
Cannot find a marriage for Francis Britain and Mary so can go no further.
If you write this down on Family Group Sheets you will get a better idea of the ancestry. Hope this helps

Kathleen Ann

Kathleen Ann Report 23 Mar 2010 22:30

hi margaret rose i cant believe you got all that info and so quickley i will write it down and thank you so much i dont know how to thank you i will study this and get back to you ta

Lisa

Lisa Report 23 Mar 2010 22:43

hi margaret i was wondering if you may beable to help me
am looking for family in the oxfordshire area,am looking for thomas hawes parents and any brothers or sisters ,thomas was born 1790 or 1786 in newington oxfordshire,thomas had a son called john hawes,am stuck you couldnt help me with this one many thanks

Gillian

Gillian Report 23 Mar 2010 23:16

Hi Margaret

It looks like you are really busy. If you do get time, I would be grateful if you could help me. I seem to have many relations in Piddington years ago. My maiden name is Turvey. I am particularly interested in John Turvey - born 11.4.1865 (my great grandfather) - his father James c1837 who married Charlotte Nicholls. James' father William 1778. I have some dates of birth and death but I wondered if there was anything about their trade or other interesting facts etc? Also, the first person on my tree is William Turvey c1758 - father of William born 1778 above, and married to Susannah Tedder. I wondered if you could trace William's or Susannah's parents at all, so that i can go further back? V grateful for any information. Thank you for your time.

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Mar 2010 08:07

FROM JUDITH BY EMAILSamuel Clarke married Sophia Durham Headington 1829 all children baptised there. Murcot is listed as his place of birth on teh 1851/1861 census where he is 51,and 58. and Oddington on the 1871 , but on this he is said to be 85 birth given as 1786, the 1841 merely say Oxfordshire, although I have written down that it could be Barton.
Judith needs the baptism of Samuel Clarke c 1803 Murcott.

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Mar 2010 08:10

JUDITH
On looking at the Charlton on Otmoor register transcripts, (Murcott did not have it's own register, entries were made on the Charlton on Otmoor Register) which are badly faded, and the original typing done using a rotten machine....
There is a couple Thomas Clarke who married Frances hatwell 13/8/1788 by License. So either they were in a terrible rusth, or one of them did not belong in the Parish.
There are a lot of children baptised to them, barely legible, but by using the Frances at the end of each entry, which was mostly legible, I looked at all children baptised with the mother Frances.
There is an entry which reads
26/4/1801 Clark xxxxx Thomas son of Thomas and Frances

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Mar 2010 08:14

JUDITH continued
So the original name was crossed out and Thomas inserted.
I think this is your Samuel, the date is correct for his baptism and also the correct parish, as on his burial in St Andrew Headington 3/1/1873 he is aged 72 yrs so born c 1801
His wife Sophia is buried in St Andrew Headington 27/12/1862 aged 53 yrs
They had married St Andrew Headington 19/2/1829 witnesses John Durham and Mary Girl, and their son Thomas Clarke was baptised 2/12/1829 St Andrew Headington
If this were my tree I should accept that the baptism in Charlton on Otmoor was the correct one, as without a look at the original register there is no other sensible idea. Hope this helps Margaret

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Mar 2010 08:21

JUDITH REQUEST BY EMAIL.
Henry Hunt c 1825 son Alexander Hunt and Elizth Berry married Mary Ann Young
children William 1850,James 1852 Thomas 1854 George 1856 all born Bicester.
William 1859 Elizth 1860 Frederick 1865 Martha 1870 all born Oxford St Thomas

Confirmation needed of baptisms

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Mar 2010 08:23

JUDITH REQUEST BY EMAIL
Henry Hunt 1829 son of George Hunt and Ann
children Richard J. 1852 Thomas 1854 George 1856 William 1858 Elizth 1861 Frederick 1865 Martha J. 1875
all born Bicester. confirmation of baptisms needed.

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Mar 2010 09:19

JUDITH re George Hunt m Mary Ann Young
they married 16/10/1848 Bicester, Henry full age bachelor labourer of Market End son of Alexander labourer
Mary Ann Young 20 yrs with consent of parents of Market End daughter of William a labourer
children baptised in Bicester
William 7/7/1850 son of Henry and Mary Ann labourer of Market End Bicester
James 11/4/1852 ditto
Thomas 7/5/1854 ditto
George 3/8/1856 son of Henry and Ann labourer Market End
Now removed to Oxford St Thomas Parish

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Mar 2010 09:23

JUDITH continue
In St Thomas Oxford
William Henry 24/10/1858 son of Henry and Ann Porter of New Osney
Elizabeth Anne 23/12/1860 daughter of Henry and Ann Porter of New Osney
John Alexander 9/11/1862 son of Henry and Mary Ann Railway Porter of New Osney
Frederick 2/2/1865 son of Henry and Mary Ann Railway Porter New Osney
Henry 23/12/1866 son Of Henry and Mary Ann Railway Porter of New Osney
Martha Jane 26/12/1869 daughter of Henry and Mary Ann Porter GWR New Osney
So although the christian name of the wife alters to Ann then alters back to Mary Ann these are the children of Henry and Mary Ann Young.

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Mar 2010 09:24

JUDTIH continued
There are no children baptised to Henry Hunt son of George Hunt and Ann baptised in Bicester.

Judith

Judith Report 24 Mar 2010 10:40

Margaret, wow, thanks for all the information I can now up date my records. If I'm not being greedy can I ask for one last
confirmation of facts, I have information received from other members trees, which don't match. I have Sarah Hunt born c1789 in Bicester daughter of Thomas Hunt & Sarah Eyres who married Thomas Figg, or was she the daughter of William and Sarah Jackson, their sarah born c 1780 who I have as marrying William Smith, but some have this sarah as marrying Thomas Figg !

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Mar 2010 16:18

LISA beginning at the beginning,
Robert Hawes senior with wife Jane who was Buried 2/6/1786 wife of Robert senior in Newington.
No connection as yet to the following.

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Mar 2010 16:21

LISA continued
Richard Haws born c 1717 in Unknown place
married Mary Deane 7/5/1749 Oxford St Mary Magdalene both of Newington
Richard Haws was buried in Newington 11/1/1805 at 88 yrs of age
Mary his wife was buried Newington 1/2/1804 aged 84 yrs
They had
Anne 25/11/1749 Newington
William 29/3/1752
Thomas 16/6/1754
Maria 17/1/1757 Newington buried 17/5/1780 Newington
Richard 11/5/1760
John and Robert twins 14/5/1764 both buried 4/6/1764 twin sons of Richard and Mary

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Mar 2010 16:25

LISA continued
George Haws born c 1736 married Newington 23/10/1758 Elizabeth Cobb
He was buried 3/1/1823 aged 87 yrs in Newington
she was buried 30/8/1761 Newington
they had baptised in Newington
Mary 29/10/1759 buried 28/11/1760
Elizabeth 24/8/1761 buried 30/9/1761
Edward 20/12/1767 this was mistranscribed as George and Rebecca a similar couple had a child baptised immediately below so a reasonable mistake.
Susanna 8/9/1770 daughter of George and Hannah
George had remarried Hannah Saunders in Chislehampton 9/4/1763
Hannah was buried 29/3/1809 wife of George.