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SUSAN continued
JOHN GRANT son of William a carrier and Sarah
married in Wroxton by Banns
John Grant bachelor labourer of this parish son of William a carrier
Leah Cox spinster daughter of John a labourer
witnesses Matthew Jecock, Mary Grant.
This marriage produced
William Grant baptised in Wroxton 30/7/1865 born 1/5/1865
who married in Wroxton
William Grant 23 yrs bachelor labourer of this parish son of John a labourer
Eliza Hughes 21 yrs spinster servant of this parish daughter of William a labourer witnesses Mary Ann Hughes, George Barton, by Banns.

SUSAN
sorry I cannot be sure of the baptism of John Grant who married Elizabeth Lines producing William Grant baptised 1793
He may be baptised in 1749 in Wroxton
or he could be baptised in Banbury St Mary 9/10/1763 son of Timothy junior a Sawyer and Elizabeth
I am hoping for a reply to my request on the Records Board for a look up on the National Burial Index as I cannot find a burial in Wroxton for John Grant, so thus I do not have an age for him at death to be able to decide which baptism is his.

Margaret i replied to your first message and then popped out for a short while and WOW i am absolutely thrilled with all that you have found for me. I am just going to run through it and will get back to you ... Susan.

HI MARGARET.
yes, these are the right harrises, so as much info about this group of siblings and going backwards as poss. this will really make a difference to my tree. thank you so much. val

VALERIE
James Harris married Elizabeth Soans 16/9/1754 St Andrew Headington by License
They had baptised in St Andrew Headington
24/11/1754 William son of James
30/5/1756 James son of James
16/4/1758 Martha daughter of James and Elizabeth
23/12/1759 William son of James and Elizabeth
4/4/1763 John son of James and Elizabeth HARRISS
3/6/1764 Richard son of James and Elizabeth HARRISS
17/5/1767 John son of James.

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ELIZABETH SOANS 1728 daughter of Thomas Soans there are baptisms in Forest Hill a contiguous parish of St Andrew Headington for siblings of Elizabeth they are
Edmund 7/11/1714 son of Thomas Soans junior
Thomas 22/1/1715 old year son of Thomas
Samuel 9/2/1717 old year son of Thomas
Richard 17/1/1719 old year son of Thomas
Edmund 17/12/1721 son of Thomas
Rachel 26/9/1723 daughter of thomas
Susanna 24/1/1724 old year dtr Thomas
Mary 10/4/1726 dtr Thomas and MARY
Martha 24/12/1727 dtr Thomas

VALERIE
there is a gap between 1666 to 1700 in the Forest Hill registers, so cannot go back further with reliability.

thanks margaret, you are brill, may the sun always shine on you, thanks again
val

Hello again Margaret, i am soo sorry i didnt get back to you yesterday. I have been beside myself wondering if you were thinking "well how ungrateful is she!!" I lost internet connection yesteday afternoon and it has only just been resumed. I am thrilled with all your information regarding the Grants as i didnt believe for one minute that i would ever be able to trace them back that far. I have googled Wroxton and what a beautiful place it is.It is deffinetly on my "places to go" diary for the summer. Your info also shows me that i have somehow made a horrible mistake in my tree regarding the father of David Grants wife, Sarah Whing. (The Whings are sometimes transribed as Wing) Your info tells me her father was Joseph and i have her parents as Silvester Wing 1790 Wroxton and Alice Sabin 1790 Chacombe, Northants. GGGRRR! I have yet to discover how i came to that conclusion and as Familysearch is quite generous with info regarding the Whings, i wonder if you would be kind enough to shed a little more light regarding Sarah Whings family in the hope that i will be able to rectify my mistake! Thankyou so much for your valuble time Margaret .... Susan.

P.S. I have gone back 6 generations on the Whings side... and it would appear to be a lot of stuff and nonsence!! Oh well, you live and learn i suppose. (Says i through gritted teeth!) Susan.

nudge for Kathleen Anne look on pages 41 to 43 for your information

hi margaret rose i dont know how to thank you i am really grateful you have been really kind thank you so much

SUSAN
David Grant born 1830 married 19/10/1850 Wroxton Sarah Whing spinster daughter of Joseph a horse dealer.
Joseph Whing and his wife Mary had baptised in Wroxton
13/11/1820 Mary
13/4/1823 Caroline
28/1/1825 Prudence
8/6/1827 Joseph
28/4/1829 Sarah who married David Grant
15/6/1832 Adelaide
17/11/1833 John
14/5/1838 Silvester

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Mary Whing was buried Wroxton 12/1/1850 aged 54 yrs
Joseph Whing buried Wroxton 4/4/1866 aged 76 yrs

also Alice Whing who was the wife of Silvester 19/2/1850 of Edgcott aged 60 yrs perhaps the one you mentioned on the email.

John Whing married in Wroxton 18/1/1781
Elizabeth Tomkins spinster both of this parish by banns witnesses
John Endall, John Hayes.

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John Whing and Elizabeth (Tomkins) had the following baptised in Wroxton
5/5/1782 Thomas son of John and Elizabeth
18/11/1787 William
28/2/1790 Silvester who later was buried in Wroxton16/6/1826 aged 36 yrs
8/1/1792 Joseph
Mark 17/11/1793
Betty 19/3/1797
Mary 18/11/1798

John Whing was buried in Wroxton 6/3/1820 aged 67 yrs
Elizabeth buried 20/2/1836 aged 80 yrs.
she had been baptised 13/8/1758 daughter of Thomas and Rose in Wroxton

Hi Margaret, PHEW!!! how lucky am i? all i need to do is swap places between Silvester and Joseph and i am done! Not too much of a disaster after all. If by not telling me the maiden name of Joseph's wife Mary causes you a sleepless night, please feel free to add it to your list of "Things to do tomorrow before deleting 3700 from my tree!" Or, if you think i am milking it, please feel free to tell me to go stick my head in a cow patt!!.... You are fabulous Margaret, thank goodness for people like you ... Susan x

hi margaret rose thanks a lot for help just one thing i dont under stand is martha brittain daughter in law ie step daughter 4yrs baulking john brittain son in law ie step son1 yr born baulking does that mean they married there step siblings and have children age 4yrs and 1yr but am really pleased with info thanks

KATHLEEN
The children Martha and John Brittain are the children of Elizabeth, but not necessarily the children of her husband Woodbridge. Although when John Brittain marries he says that Woodbridge is his father. Better put them down as just children of Elizabeth until you know for certain who their father is.

hi margaret your info has helped me a lot and i feel awful asking but you told me john brittain named william woodbridge as his father as he had married williams mother sarah brittain befor john was 1yr old but i have been unable to find marraige to johns birth father do you think that maybe she had never been married and that was her maiden name but i cant even find her parents maybe i am not looking in right would you have any idea where to look thank you

KATHLEEN ANN
1841 census St Helens Berkshire (Abingdon)
Jonathan Britton 40 yrs Policeman born Berks
Esther 40 born Berks
Ann 15 ditto
Sarah 17 ditto
William 15 ditto
Francis 13 ditto
John 11 ditto
Jonathan 8 ditto
Caleb 6 ditto.
I think this is your Sarah Brittain, who married Woodbridge, and had the illegitimate John and Martha Brittain, John being your ancestor. Oxfordshire Family History Society has booklets with regard to Policemen in Oxfordshire if you go to their site, google it, you can buy online if you wish to follow this line. Hope this helps.