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Margaret
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26 Jul 2016 05:25 |
At long last...4 years I have returned home. In the meantime things have changed with regard to Oxfordshire records, many are now freely available. I still have my Parish Records, and Marriage discs, so if you need any help get in touch. Witnesses of marriages can be a great help, and are recorded on the Parish Registers. My thanks to all members who have helped each other on this thread whilst I have been away travelling. Margaret.
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KeithG
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7 Jun 2015 10:55 |
Thanks for the additional edits, Chris!
It's probably safe to assume that the Elizabeth Peake is his eldest daughter, born about 1816. No, that can't be right for the reported death, that's MRS Elizabeth Peake so a possible third wife? Do I need to go chasing a third marriage, Emily -> Clara -> Elizabeth? The will record says "widow" so surely it must be safe to assume it was the deceased's widow?
Edit: Duh, this is Georges father & mother. I really shouldn't try and respond to these things quickly!! I think Elizabeth was Elizabeth Warcus born about 1774 although I'm awaiting evidence of that.
Keith
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Chris Ho :)
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6 Jun 2015 21:52 |
Through Newspapers on Find My Past Keith...(should also be on GR Newspapers)
http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
(you can also get on above, using as keywords in searchbox... peake fringford)
Chris :)
(you would probably need help from Margaret for that Marriage)
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http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D73111
Reference: PROB 11/1958/207 Description: Will of Thomas Peake, Carpenter of Fringford , Oxfordshire Date: 24 February 1842
England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858 (Ancestry)
Thomas Peake 1842 (Proved 24th Feb. 1842, Elizabeth Peake, widow)
(also, below, same Newspaper)
1836 Died - Nov 9th., at Fringford, Mr. Thomas Peake, carpenter and wheelwright.
1848 Died - Nov 10th, at Fringford, Mrs Elizabeth Peake, aged 88
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KeithG
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6 Jun 2015 21:23 |
Brilliant, Chris, thank you!
I'm now in touch with a very helpful chap on Ancestry who has George and Emily in his tree.
Emily's death in 1840 explains her absence from the census records I have found so far.
Please can you say where / how you found the Oxford Chronicle and Reading Gazette record? My very limited experience with the British Newspaper Archive has been that searches almost always turn up more chaff than wheat, the OCR they use leaves a lot to be desired!
1st edit: I've found the 1814 marriage record but only in transcript form, can anyone find an image please?
2nd edit: I have found an image, thanks to The Oxfordshire Family History Society. Witnesses were Charles Barrett & Elizabeth Peake.
Keith
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6 Jun 2015 19:44 |
(if below relates, or helps with anything!)
England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) George Last name Peake Marriage year 1814 Marriage date 29 Aug 1814 Marriage place Mixbury,Oxford,England Spouse's first name(s) Emily Spouse's last name Payne
Deaths Mar 1867 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------- Peake George 72 Clerkenwell 1b 510
Deaths Jun 1840 (>99%) ------------------------------------------ PEAKE Emily Bicester 16 22
http://fringford.info/Fringford%20Churchyard%20Graves.pdf
(above has some Peake names, George and Emily also)
09 February 1867 - Oxford Chronicle and Reading Gazette - Oxford,
Died - Feb. 1st at his daughter’s residence, in London, Mr. George Peake, carpenter, formerly of Fringford.
Chris :)
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KeithG
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6 Jun 2015 13:45 |
Witnesses were: Eduard / Edward Marsh Sarah Peake
Bride was Mary Ann Marsh (minor), spinster 14 October 1849
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Jacqueline
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6 Jun 2015 11:58 |
Do the names of the witness hold any clues?
When did Thomas marry...........and to whom?
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KeithG
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6 Jun 2015 10:19 |
Thomas' marriage certificate gives his father's name as George Peake, Builder.
Keith
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Jacqueline
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6 Jun 2015 09:14 |
Oh dear, Keith..............
I was referring to THOMAS's marriage cert
I would have thought you'd realize that
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KeithG
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6 Jun 2015 06:52 |
Hi Sylvia!
Thank you for finding that marriage. I think it must be his second (third?) as "his children" all predate the marriage by a considerable margin (1816 - 35).
I've written "his children" in quotes as I have found references to eight in census records and elsewhere but the records only show a small selection of the "children" in each record. That's always possible, of course, but it's almost as if there were two parallel families with the same family names. And the only census record I could find with a wife was Clara in 1861.
I'll look for that tree you've found and see if it provides any other hints. I found one reference to her but she was not "connected" to anyone else, I'll look again.
Thanks again, Sylvia
Keith
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Jun 2015 00:14 |
??????????????
from ancestry ........
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: George Peake Gender: Male Marriage Date: 6 Sep 1853 Marriage Place: Saint Martin In The Fields,Westminster,London,England Spouse: Clara Deschlein FHL Film Number: 561169, 561170, 561171, 561172, 561173, 561174, 561175
1861 Census
Name: Clara Peake Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: 1810 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: George Peake Gender: Female Where born: St Luke Chelon, Middlesex, England <<<<<<<< Civil Parish: Heath County/Island: Oxfordshire Country: England
Registration district: Bicester Sub-registration district: Bicester ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 55 Piece: 900 Folio: 8 Page Number: 10
George Peake 66 b.ca 1795, Fringford, Oxfordshire, Carpenter Clara Peake 51 School Mistress Eliza Rouse 13 Servant
a Public Family Tree on ancestry says this is Clara Maria Deschlein
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KeithG
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5 Jun 2015 23:06 |
Yes, Jacqueline, that's one of them. There are also 1851 and 1861 records.
I haven't found George's marriage record yet. I'm guessing it MIGHT have been to Emily Sheppard. However the 1861 record has Clara as his (possibly second?) wife.
Keith
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Jacqueline
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5 Jun 2015 22:29 |
Is this the basis for your guess about the father's name?
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Fringford Village, Fringford, Bicester, Oxfordshire, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place George Peake Male 45 1796 Oxfordshire, England Transcription Mary Peake Female 20 1821 Oxfordshire, England Transcription Thomas Peake Male 14 1827 Oxfordshire, England Transcription John Peake Male 8 1833 Oxfordshire, England Transcription Catherine Peake Female 6 1835 Oxfordshire, England Transcription Sarah Sheppard Female 70 1771 Oxfordshire, England Transcription James Cresswell Male 20 1821 - Transcription
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Jacqueline
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5 Jun 2015 22:22 |
Birth records didn't exist before July 1837
You can verify his father's name by obtaining a copy of his marriage cert
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KeithG
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5 Jun 2015 22:17 |
Hello Margaret
I wonder whether you might be able to help, please. I'm looking for Thomas Peak(e), born about 1826. He's mentioned in an 1851 census report as being born in Oxford Heath. I believe his father was George Peake. I'd like to trace (ideally) a baptism / christening record and / or a birth record.
Many thanks
Keith
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Margaret
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11 Jan 2015 11:11 |
nudge
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Margaret
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22 Dec 2014 17:32 |
nudge
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Margaret
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1 Dec 2014 11:28 |
nudge
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Sandra
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13 Nov 2014 17:02 |
Thanks very much Margaret for all your help Sandra
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Margaret
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11 Nov 2014 17:30 |
SIMON Mary Ivins baptised 3/10/1779 in Swinbrook daughter of Thomas and Mary Ivins.
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