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Name: Henry F Bass
Year: 1957
County or Borough: Southwark
Ward or Division/Constituency: Dulwich
Street address: 27 Philip road

with Lilian M Bass and John J O'keefe

Name: Henry F Bass
Year: 1956
County or Borough: Southwark
Ward or Division/Constituency: Dulwich
Street address: 27 Philip Road

with Lilian M Bass and John J O'Keefe


same address and people in 1955

Only Henry and Lilian Bass

Name: Lilian M Bass
Year: 1947
County or Borough: Southwark
Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell
Street address: 27 Philip Road

So no john O ,Keefe with them then


Same couple in 1945 so who was Lilian m Bass???

Only wish I knew who she was. Could be HFB's live in love?

John J is with Vera M Johnson at the same address in 1961

Name: John J O'Keefe ( is listed a qualifies for Jury service )
Year: 1961
County or Borough: Southwark
Ward or Division/Constituency: Dulwich
Street address: 27 Phillip Road

Edit both still there in 1962

Now that is interesting Shirley. Bearing in mind that 27 Philip ROad may have been a house with rooms to rent and not necessarily for one family - I wonder if the Vera M Johnson was just another tenant or was she "with John J O'Keefe? How did you find that out? I am not in Ancestry at the moment. THought someone may have treated me to membership at Christmas or even Mother's Day - but no. I wonder if they left that address together.

What are the requirements for a juror? Does it mean he was born in England -

I found them on Ancestry london electoral rolls listings up to 1965.

And they were the only ones at that address each time so not a multiply occupant house.

Maybe it was just a rented house

As far as Jury service it seems you must have lived in the UK for at least 5 years from aged 13 to qualify

Thanks Shirley. Do you know if he actually served on a jury or was just listed as someone who could be on call if required to serve?
regards
jennifer

Do you agree that it is possible for LIlian Mary Bass to have a different name really and just be using Henry Frederick Bass's surname as she was living with him for so long. He was actually married to Mary Ann Bass who also appears at the address now and then. Where did this LIlian Mary come from? Could John J be her son from a previous relationship? It seems to me that finding someone descended from John O'Keefe could answer all my questions. Wonder if he married Vera eventually? Easy to drive yourself barmy in this game! Thanks for your interest.
regards, jen

????
Lewisham isn't that far from dulwich and has a big hospital so maybe would be reg in Lewisham if he died in hospital.BUT. Not knowing who he is who knows if this is the right man

First name(s) JOSEPH JOHN
Last name O'KEEFE
Gender Male
Birth day 17
Birth month 7
Birth year 1904
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1978
District LEWISHAM
County London
Volume 14
Page 0617
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials

Thanks for that Shirley. As he was only registered on the electoral role at 27 Philip Road up until 1965? maybe he did move towards Lewisham. Is there a way to look at the electoral role up to 1978? The person you just came up with looks worth a shot at getting some certificates. The GRO gave me a full refund of the fee on the last misfire - which I thought was good of them.
I am very grateful for your help. best regards jennifer

The birth is not showing on FreeBMD nor the death as above. Did you gt it from Ancestry?

Going back a bit this is the couple in 1925, I see Jennifer that you commented on there that this was Lilian Mary with Henry Frederick

Name: Mary Lilian Bass
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Year: 1925
County or Borough: Southwark
Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell
Street address: 27 Pkckham Rye

Yes Rose, That is them and the address was actually 27 Philip Road Peckham Rye Camberwell.The man in question John J O'Keefe did not appear at the address until1955 or maybe he was there but not old enough to be on the electoral register.

is this mary ann bass death if so then they must have parted

Deaths Dec 1969 (>99%)
BASS Mary Ann 4Ap1889 Hackney 5b 1784

could this be lilian m bass death in camberwell which is the district for peckham i lived there

LILIAN MAUD BASS
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Collections from
Great Britain
Country
England
County
London
Year
1985
Birth Year
1904
Event Quarter
4
District
CAMBERWELL

looks like her birth so she never married

Births Sep 1904 (>99%)
BASS Lilian Maud St. Olave 1d 203

Hello Yvonne, Thanks for trying to help me. The Lilian M Bass is either Mary or Marian - according to the electoral registers. We never had a Lilian Maud. Bass is such a common name so this is a difficult one. The Mary Ann Bass death has been ruled out already - wrong date of birth. Family info tells us that Mary Ann Bass (nee Connor) and Henry Frederick who married in December 1907 did not stay together due to her running off with a policeman. This must have happened after the 1911 census as they were still together then and childless. However it looks like they did have a few goes at reconciliation as they are together in Philip Rd Camberwell 1932 to 1935. From 1936 a Lilian Marian Bass appears and from then on no Mary Ann is there. If you come up with anything else I shall be grateful. Jen

hi
did henry bass have a son called henry d bass there is a marriage to a lilian m applegate in 1943