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Len of the Chilterns

Len of the Chilterns Report 26 Nov 2005 23:28

I have never seen a ghost. I would like to do so. The word is from the archaic English for a spirit or entity. I have sensed the presence of things though and am aware that not all spirits are neutral; some are evil. I believe that some races of people are more sensitive to such things eg the Celts which include Irish, Welsh, some Scots, Basques (French & Spanish) and nomadic Romany’s; therefore it may be true to believe that having 'the gift' is an inherited trait. I must refresh my memory sometime but I believe these people arrived in what is now Europe from India before later waves of peoples (Germanics and Latinos, Slavs etc) originally from Africa, via the Middle East, who pushed the Celts to the western fringes of Europe. It has been hypothesised that the extinct Neanderthals who pre-dated the Celts, were a more spiritual hominid than the successful Cro-Magnons from whom we all sprang. They had larger brains (1700c against our 1600cc average) but less well-developed speech centres and may well have communicated more by telepathy. A deeper understanding of the paranormal may only be achieved by 'doing some'. To understand metaphysics (or philosophy, or law, or biology, or horticulture) it helps to study the subject and I would suggest that anyone aspiring to enter these discussions should do so. A course in meditation would be a good start. len

Paul

Paul Report 26 Nov 2005 23:31

I've seen a ghosts on a few seperate occasions, one was at a ghost night, the other in my house. But i wont tell you, 'cos you'll just laugh! lol!

David

David Report 26 Nov 2005 23:55

Lem That is very interesting, but it is all suposition. David

Jane

Jane Report 26 Nov 2005 23:55

As a child I had a constant spirit 'friend' ,hated this earth and to my mothers horror kept saying that I wanted to 'Go Home' A Great Aunt was a Clairvoyant and said that I was not the only one who felt that way and that one day we all would. I've been to churches all over the world and listened to differant beliefs. I know what I believe and it's not anything to do with human religious dictats. That some people have rare gifts .and are able to 'Tap into ' a source of power, is possibly something which we have lost over the years. After all it is not long ago that Australian Aborigines could send mental messahes over vast distances. There's more in Heaven and Earth than we can Imagine JaY

Len of the Chilterns

Len of the Chilterns Report 27 Nov 2005 00:00

Davo Thank you for dismissing my education as supposition. I suppose it must seem like that to some. len

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 27 Nov 2005 00:01

as an aside, when I left home, my mummy told me...... never to argue about, religion, or politics, and NEVER to play cards with soldiers, on trains......... Bob

Paul

Paul Report 27 Nov 2005 00:03

Joy - what you saying? You're an alien?? (joke) I recently joined a group online which is meant to be multi cultural and religion. It had an oath thingy you were meant to follow, and it said 'You will follow the laws set by God' and I immediatly though 'Eh?' so much for multi faith!

Jane

Jane Report 27 Nov 2005 00:13

Must admit when I put that bit in ,I thought someone wuld think 'ET'! Who Knows!! Jay

Paul

Paul Report 27 Nov 2005 00:14

Well when I was little, I always wanted to go visit a local pond. My real mother was there. I thought I was 1/2 duck!!!

Len of the Chilterns

Len of the Chilterns Report 27 Nov 2005 00:16

What we perceive of the world, not to mention the universe, is just a tiny range of what there is. Our eyes are sensitive to just a very narrow band of a huge spectrum of radiation that includes radio waves, microwaves, x-rays, gamma rays, infra red and ultra violet light and beyond and all manner of electro-magnetic waves. Our ears pick up but a fraction of the sound that exists and we come a very poor second, in this respect, to our domestic pets. We are oblivious to things less than about a millimeter across, but tend to believe that what our puny senses do not perceive cannot possibly exist. Most people had difficulty in coming to terms with or even believing in bacteria until the fairly recent invention of the microscope. Even today, with some people, 'seeing is believing'. Len

Unknown

Unknown Report 27 Nov 2005 00:18

Paul I think religion and politics are topics which often arouse controversy and dissent. I do not feel very happy with the word 'spiritual' or 'religion' but I do attend a Quaker meeting from time to time. I like it because no one preaches, we pray/think in silence, unless someone feels the need to say something. It is very refreshing. But the idea that everyone in a particular church or building will all feel the same and agree about everything is absurd. The point of attending worship with others surely is to overcome the differences and be together in one's search for meaning. nell

David

David Report 27 Nov 2005 00:20

Len None of us were there at the time. We all see the evidence, and draw different conclusions from that evidence, therefore I think the word 'suposition' was reasonable regards David

Jane

Jane Report 27 Nov 2005 00:24

And the air we breathe ,Len Jay

Midlands

Midlands Report 27 Nov 2005 00:26

Let's clear one thing up. Any 'Spiritualist Church' - so labelled - has nothing to do with Christianity. There is a difference and the difference is Jesus Christ.

Paul

Paul Report 27 Nov 2005 00:28

Um this Spiritualist Church was Christian. it said inside on the wall 'CoE King's Lynn Spiritualist Church.' What do you mean by no spiritualist church is christian? And waht do you mean by the difference is Jesus? I dont really get what you'er saying.

Pat

Pat Report 27 Nov 2005 00:43

I don't mind discussing religion any religion with people that can keep their hair on. When people start a discussion then do not like the way discussions are going, they start getting a little nasty and spiteful then claim what would I know because I am an Atheist lol. I find some people do not wish to discuss religion they would rather preach it but do not seem to live the way of it themselves. Nell :-) I have great admiration for some people who make huge sacrifices & do so much good within their religious groups, one section who I have the greatest respect & admiration for are the Quakers they have contributed so much to society, I believe they strive to live by their own teachings & their religion. I do find hypocrisy but that is the same in all walks of live with all sorts of beliefs. Pat x

Linen

Linen Report 27 Nov 2005 01:16

Sorry Midland Girl, there are Spiritualist churches who acknowledge the leadership of Jesus Christ. As I said before I am not, & proud to say it, a christian but he was a darn good medium. Vivienne

Dianne

Dianne Report 27 Nov 2005 01:57

Paul I think you have just had a bad experience. Try another church because there are both Christian and SNU churches. The attitude is definitely not to do with the church, but rather the personalities of those very strange people who tutted at you. The spiritualist church is a very interdenominational church, and accepting of all beliefs. One of the churches I have attended was run by Jewish people, whereas I was married in the Christian spiritualist church by a catholic nun. I am christian spiritualist, Linen Lady is non Christian spiritualist, but as spiritualists there is absolutely no distinction between us. We both have the same beliefs in the afterlife and the same goals and aspirations surely. I am sure we would be more than accepting of each other. There is no reason not to be. Dianne xx

Linen

Linen Report 27 Nov 2005 02:03

Agree entirely Diane, I was married in an SNU church. I have no problem with any religion as long as they don't try to push it down my throat. I really must go to bed now, night, night Vivienne

Haribo

Haribo Report 27 Nov 2005 15:06

I dont mind discussing religion, as long as it stays a discussion and not a means to convert or 'enlighten' me. I dont and wont discuss it on my doorstep at 11am on a Sunday morning!