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Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 20 Feb 2010 10:39

Is David Millband something to do with education if he is I have met him BUT didnt have a clue who he was, I was the catering manager for a brand new school a flag ship in the borough, anyway the day it was to be offically opened was still a working day, there were loads of bods in suits about the place that day, we had been strict instructions to clear the hall as quickly and as cleanly as possible it was all hands on deck, he was due about 2pm, so even I was sweeping the floor to get it done as quickly as possible, the door open and there stood the head with 3 bods in suits, I said we going as quickly as we can before the posh git gets here, I noticed the head quirm and this guy laughing.....he held his hand out and said Posh git and you are ......

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 20 Feb 2010 10:39

We have an independent senator here Nick Xenephon. He was in State parliament, campaigned for Federal parliament and to the astonishment of many became the first independant to be elected to the Legislative Council in 60 years.

I admire his tenacity and his belief in his ability to carry out his promises.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 20 Feb 2010 10:51

After reading his Obituary in the Guardian archives, I don’t necessarily agree with his National policies, but at a Constituency level, once he returned to the Back Benches, Robert (Bob) John Dunn, politician, born July 14 1946; died April 24 2003 was an excellent MP.

When it comes to voting in Elections, I’m sure that many will vote for not only the Party, but also the person who offers to improve their own personal circumstances, rather than limit their decision to the National or World Wide issues.


Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Feb 2010 11:00

"I am not now nor have I ever been a Communist" lol

and we are not living in the age of McCarthyism either....

But if I was and and if we were, Ms Green fairy...I wouldn't give a stuff who knew my political leanings...there is no point having them at all if you don't believe in them and have the guts to say so :)

Can't reply , going out to round up some nasty right wingers I noticed hanging out while I was browsing the net...... ( sarcasm)

PS the Plaid Cymru MP where I used to live was really good locally.

Gee

Gee Report 20 Feb 2010 11:09

Mo Mowlem.

Came from nothing and worked her butt off.

She was a key figure in the Good Friday aggreement

And through it all, she was very ill with a brain tumour, but still went to visit and talk with convicted Irish paramilitaries face-to-face in the Maze, Belfast.

She died in 2005.....only the good die young and all that

Ginny
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TeresaW

TeresaW Report 20 Feb 2010 11:12

Completely agree there Ginny, an inspiration to all aspiring politicians I would think.

And who knows if the Good Friday agreement will have been reached without her making everyone see the sense in proper dialogue.

Gee

Gee Report 20 Feb 2010 11:15

Well Teresa.......all it needed was a 'women' to bang their heads together!

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AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 20 Feb 2010 11:35

DET Thinking about what you wrote about voting for politicians who can improve the lives of their constituents.

Is that not how politics used to be. Locally elected, to sit in parliament to do the best for that person's electorate. And how greatly everything has changed in our lifetimes. The information technology revolution has brought the problems of the whole world to our doorsteps.

Issues that were once the problem of communities on the other side of the planet are now instant knowledge to the vast majority of the world's population.

And often local issues are overwhelmed by global ones, and whose to say whether what is a local issue might not become a global concern.

TeresaW

TeresaW Report 20 Feb 2010 13:38

That is basically what she did really Ginny LOL>

AuntySherlock. The main problem with local government is central government. Not only do they collectively ignore local needs in policy-making, but over the years everything has become centralised anyway. Apparently less administration that way (haha yeah right).

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 20 Feb 2010 13:40

Re the info on the survey being logged and stored for political uses

I could Have saved them the time they only has to ask

They know anyway big brother keeps tabs on all of us

I'm a socialist and a member of the socialist workers party. But have to vote for NEW!!! laughable labour as we have no members standing where I live (affluent South Hampshire ) for some maybe but not all. The labour party have done some good , minimum wage, new working time directives , Northern Ireland ( Mo Molam did all the hard work Tony took all the credit ) but they are moving ever closer to the right, to close for my liking.



In the last 7 years since i moved to my present house I have never met standing member of any the parties who want my vote.

When I saw one standing outside the polling station ( kissing babies and all that c**p) I asked why the don't door knock anymore and meet their potential electors, " oh that old politics we don't do that any more "

They don't get we want old politics where you actually knew something about candidate

Merlin

Merlin Report 20 Feb 2010 13:45

Lorraine, you forgot One Very Important thing the Labour Party Did.They Bankrupted The Country" While lining their own pockets. Re the Query about Scopes, Try Looking under Charity Shops. **M**.

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 20 Feb 2010 13:51

As for bankrupting the country, I dont entirely agree with that, It was a global recession, the american banks went 1st and we followed. I think the problem is the regulisation of banks in this country and the USA. They can basically do what the hell they like and know the government will bail them out.

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 20 Feb 2010 14:07

Aunty Sherlock

Interesting point RE/ how you feeling hormones etc affecting answers

I watched the programme about Mo Mowlam and her doctor said her brain tumor affected the part of the brain that controls your feelings and emotions

so if she hadn't have had the brain tumor would she have been so influential in Northern Ireland as her personality would have been different? makes you wonder eh.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Feb 2010 14:20

Anyone want my problems...??

All going free to a good home,NO??,,then make that I will pay you to take them away...?

If the questions are illegal then why hasnt someone reported them to whoever you report them to and had the site shut down?

I do wish I had had more than a short eddication to be able to understand all these things you are all talking about but I read and try to learn I hope.

But Politics just seem to be an insurmountable electrode for my brain to accept.
Maybe rewiring of the grey cells would help.....

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 20 Feb 2010 14:23

Fanny by gas light ::: Right on sister lol

TeresaW

TeresaW Report 20 Feb 2010 14:48

Politics = money. simples.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Feb 2010 15:35

Zactly..

I had a good MP when I was in Ceredigion,,Mark Williams,,he tried hard to help me on a problem I had,but he lost and so did I of course.
Then I moved over the border and now I have a Plaid MP and cant say I even know their name,so thats how much impact they have had on me...

Years ago living in Somerset we had Paddy Pants Down,Lib again and he was excellent,really helped with his constituents probs,sorted out my parents probs within weeks after going to him and having got nowhere for months before that.

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 20 Feb 2010 15:55

Local government spending amounts to about 27% of all public spending. Local authorities spend the majority of this on providing schools, social services and maintaining roads, but they also provide many other services. In addition, local government spending pays for police and fire services.

Local government spending is paid for by three main sources:

Central Government − 61%
Business rates − 17%
Council tax − 22%

I work in children services and our budget from central government has been cut by 7million this year, but the local council LIb dem has said there will be no increase in council tax, this obviously keeps the lib dem voters happy but where is the 7million shortfall coming from, just our childrens home alone is 30k overbudget this financial year .

Services will be cut of course but the voters don't think of that.

TeresaW

TeresaW Report 20 Feb 2010 16:12

There's the problem, central government funding is taken from taxpayers money. When they make cuts, the shortfall inevitably comes from somewhere else, usually a rise in council tax. So when a service is cut, we continue paying for it in our taxes, then pay again from our council tax.

All they do really is rob Peter to pay Paul....then swipe it back off Paul to give to Peter, so Peter can afford to rob Paul himself, then pay the government in taxes.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 20 Feb 2010 16:52

Move over FBG - I'm joining you. My grey cells have just blown a fuse!! lol

Cx.