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Allan

Allan Report 16 Feb 2010 00:05

Janey, In the past I have voted for the person rather than the Party.

Rather naive, I know, as they then conform to the party line.

Normally for the seat i am in only the Libs and Labor field candidates. In 2007 the Greens did put up a candidate and I voted for that person. Not because I espouse the Greens manifesto but I didn't like the other two candidates. As voting is compulsory in Australia it was either that or spoiling the Ballot paper!

I may have to pay closer attention next time!

Allan

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 16 Feb 2010 00:17

Well at least if you vote Green in Australia or the UK or pretty much anywhere else, you can be fairly sure of what you're voting for.

The Canadian Green Party is just weird. The leader (a woman I knew from law school) is a giant egotist. The rest of them are mainly ex-Conservatives who basically formed the Green Party and ran candidates to take silly people's votes away from the NDP and Liberal candidates so the Conservative candidates had a better chance of winning in tight ridings.

They tend to get single-digit percentages of the vote (more in a few places in Lotusland on the Pacific, British Columbia). But it could be enough to let a Liberal or Conservative win, which would not have happened if those people had voted NDP instead, so there is not much love lost between the left and the Green Party.

Now you all know what party you *should* vote for, anyhow. ;)

I'm off for supper and a shower. Both are very badly needed. If I remember, I'll return tomorrow with the Joy of Cooking brownie recipe I made for No.1's Valentine prezzie. Absolutely to die for.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 16 Feb 2010 02:47

Oh my that is really worrisome. Just looked at the Aussie grid. And me, the greens are one square away from my cross.

Oh woe. That is just not me.

And exactly what did I say about the Australian political parties. Do you need a repeat. In a nutshell. They are all the same. And just lookee where they all sit. Ha! She's not just a pretty face.

I gave my score in my first post about 5.30 this morning before I woke up. Definitely lime green but a little towards the centre, almost straddling the fence but not quite.

And this is a fine time to hit me with all this philosophical whatchamaycallit. We have a State election in a few weeks time. Now I'll probably have to desert the noble, upstanding, no one knows who the current leader is, liberal party, and vote for the Greens. I can see my extra vote making all the difference.

And as Allan says with my luck I'll probably not have a candidate in my electorate and will have to settle for the "Free IceCreams for Seniors Party" instead.

Mick from the Bush

Mick from the Bush Report 16 Feb 2010 04:05

-1.88 and - 3.03

I suppose that makes me a limp-wristed pinko
tree hugger like the rest of you mob!


xxxxxx mick

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 16 Feb 2010 07:06

Waaaaah!!! Sob, sob!! Sits in corner with dunces hat on head.

I knewed I should have googled the answers first.

Told you I was a political virgin. Scored an embarrassing 23. Not even 50%.

Oh well. my tiyning is relaly good ans i can splle good two.

Dame

Dame Report 16 Feb 2010 07:47

Janey this is not the forum to advertise policital websites that collect information...

Allan

Allan Report 16 Feb 2010 08:34

I'm pretty sure that the website is apolitical, and it does state that it does not record the answers except to work out where the respondent is placed in a variety of scenarios.

You will see many examples of these types of matrices used in conjunction with personality tests.

But in any event no one has been forced on to the site, I'm sure.

Regards

Allan

Rambling

Rambling Report 16 Feb 2010 09:47

The site does not collect information, no names were given,no geographical location even .

and actually, if that had been the case ( and presumably all of us who looked there chose to do so, read the intro etc) I wouldn't have minded them collecting the 'info' that I am very intelligent and politically 'sound' lolol

TeresaW

TeresaW Report 16 Feb 2010 09:51

fairies r us, it states clearly that the site does NOT gather information, or record it. It's just a questionnaire. You don't add your name or even where you're from, nothing personal at all. Just a quiz on personal political opinions.

It's purely a matter of choice whether or not we do it. I for one found it very interesting, and this has been a good thread, so no harm done.

I've been thinking about the careful wording of some of the questions though....worded so that you are going to put certain answers (agree/disagree strongly agree/strongly disagree are the only answers required).

For instance, the one asking if we believe that the current terrorism situation is infringing our civil liberties.

Well yes, the situation itself is infringing our civil liberties, but that's not to say I would be against using the full body scan at airports, and claim, like some, that it could even be unlawful. If it gets me on a plane with a bunch of strangers WITHOUT the risk of being blown to pieces, then so be it.

Muffyxx

Muffyxx Report 16 Feb 2010 10:03

Exactly TW.

I treated it much like I would doing a FB quiz...just a bit of harmless fun..... I think Dame may have missed the intro when she looked on the site (if indeed she did) x

TeresaW

TeresaW Report 16 Feb 2010 10:16

It's not even a poll!

I will never admit that Janey dragged me there kicking and screaming and forced me to answer all the questions...LOL

Seriously, knowing how meticulous Janey is with security, and considering she is the one to point us to the site, if Janey did it, then it must be safe enough...or she wouldn't even look at it for fear of something being recorded.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 16 Feb 2010 16:14

Janey peers around nervously, wondering which poster in this thread ... or non-fee-paying lurker ... is writing down her scores and reporting them to the overseers ... overcome by another fit of the paranoids ...

Then, when I stand as a candidate for the commie pinko tree-hugger women's libby party, it will all come out. I'm a commie pinko tree-hugging women's libber!!

And Hayley will have to vote for me. ;)

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~  **007 1/2**

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 16 Feb 2010 17:31

If the website had any political objective, it was lost on me lol I thought the point of chat was to discuss various issues. People refer to different sites every day. I didn't see this as any different. It was certainly a talking point. I suppose we could go back to those sites that generate nonesense names when you put in your real names but personally I've always been suspicious of them lol

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 16 Feb 2010 17:38

Ha. How about the Sarah Palin baby name generator?

http://politsk.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah_13.html


Anybody remember Fish Karma??

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 16 Feb 2010 19:11

Being newly dragged to Fish Karma, not in the first instance kicking and screaming, but it will be kicking and screaming the next time, I have two things to say.

First whatever it is has absoluely the worst voice of anything, human or inhuman, on this planet or elsewhere.

Janey, you can not expect me to believe that you, a passably intelligent woman, actually derives pleasure from listening to it.

And it would be fun to know what sector of the quadrant fairiesRus scored.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 16 Feb 2010 19:32

Can't say I've listened to old Fish since that day in 2008. ;) Fish Karma ... John-Boy the Baptist ... Sodom and Gomorrah (the winning entry) ...

I'm not worried, me. Homeland Security and Sheriff Joe are already on the lookout for me, I've been told by good authority here at GR!

Allan

Allan Report 16 Feb 2010 22:10

Yes Janey,

But do you have the smoking gun?

Allan

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 16 Feb 2010 22:25

I had it dry cleaned, Allan.


Oops! Different thread. ;)

That was the one where I dreamed I was sleeping with Bill Clinton ... (ew, frankly).

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 16 Feb 2010 23:12

Thought you'd like to know that others in the universe are partaking of the quiz.

Imagine how excited the owners of the political compass will be to have all this new interest in their enterprise.

We should soon have the green quadrant so crammed with the good people, the grid will be lopsided and the inhabitants in the other little squares will slide down the screen and rest amongst us tree huggers. Then we can all give them a group hug (strewth, nearly wrote grope) and politely tell them the error of their ways.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 16 Feb 2010 23:20

On a serious note though -- isn't it amazing what a lot of people there are with no political party to call home?

Perfectly ordinary people here, all in the green square -- nobody's actually a pinko prevert, just ordinary people with basically sound values and views. And all the "serious" political parties they're supposed to vote for, be it in the UK or Canada or Australia, are frolicking off in the blue square, right-wing and authoritarian as all get-out. And moving farther in both directions, competing to see who can be rightest-wing and most authoritarian. And yet somehow it seems to work for them.