General Chat

But very nice with it, Rox, if you'll excuse me butting in:)

Hello Uggers:-))
Oh,thank you:-))

Can i just say something about real dedicated breeders

when my beautifull breed was classed as the rarest dog breed in the world back in the early 70s, a Hong Kong breeder managed to get a few dogs over to America

Since then through carefull breeding both in america and britan, the breed was taken from the brink of extinction to championship status

but more than that when they arrived into the west they had some really poor health issues

once again these dedicated breeders have improved the health issues out of all recognition for the better i must add

When i breed a litter if i dont use my boy, i spend weeks looking at all the stud dogs bloodlines going back 10 gens to make sure of health and temprement in the puppys

so when some one says they are breeding to improve the breed perhaps they actualy mean it.

But i aggree that some breeders are just in it for what they can make and thats wrong

i know of a few in our breed that do that and its very sad, as its people like myself who end up helping the unfortunate owner of a badly breed puppy

but i will continue to breed happy healthy puppys that go to loving homes

Sxx

Steve,
Thanks for adding.
I have to say that in the past I have had Dogs from Breeders.
My parents kept Basset Hounds for years,it was their breed of choice.
But over the years and seeing so many badly treated and so many in need of loving homes,my opinions changed.
Can I ask you,as a Breeder,what happens to the ones that arent so perfect?
The ones that arent the perfect specimen?

I am by no means attacking Breeders and I know there are a lot of dedicated breeders out there who do a great job and are very genuine.

Puppy farms are far to common and are run by heartless people who just want to make money fast with no concern for the health and well being of the puppies that they sell. Then there are those so called breeders inbetween who seem to be genuine but are not and are just as bad in my eyes as puppy farms

I have 2 ped labradors, not for breeding or as working dogs but because of their nature and size ( I didn't want a small or massive dog) Having children I wanted to know I was getting a 'true' labrador so to speak which is why we went to a breeder(s)

However I would like it to become harder to purchase a dog. People need to be more educated, dogs take alot of caring for and lots of attention it's far too easy to purchase a dog and then dispose of it when it has served it's purpose or when things go wrong.

as the animal shelters are mostly full of cross breed dogs and cats i think that should tell us something it might be that's where the problems lay if the government made it compulsory to have all cross breeds neutered that would go a long way to solving the problems of unwanted pets most pedigree breeders seem to be responsible to me with the odd exception it might be the answer to educate pet owners more as to the responsibility of owning a pet in the first place
but puppy farming should be outlawed
just my opinion

I disagree with breeding. Once they have served their purpose, they're surplus to requirements. Very unfair for the females to keep going through pregnancies as it is a health risk. Also think that people should be finding their pets at rehoming centres.

Krystyna

*self opinionated* Roxanne? I hold my hand up very high to that one as well! Would never argue with that... we have the right to our opinions, too, as I have repeatedly said.

I certainly do not take issue with that.

I also am not missing your point at all, Roxanne... I just don't happen to agree with you.. and will never be persuaded otherwise. I feel that our opinions are diametrically opposed.

That certainly does not make me feel that your point of view is not valid, nor firmly held by you.

Also, yes, I did make an issue.. your thread invited the opinions of others. I gave mine. They are different to yours... that in itself is an *issue*

As this is a subject that I, like you, have strong beliefs about, it will always be a point of issue, wouldn't you think? Life is like that! People agreeing to disagree, even about subjects they feel great passion for.

Well, that is my last word on your thread, Roxanne, I am sure you will be pleased to hear!

I wish you well, and no hard feelings.. I certainly don't harbour any.

Regards

Daff

But There not! there are a very mixed lot in Animal shelters.
In the one I help out at there are Alsatians, Greyhounds, but the majority are Huskies,Why I dont know! and cross breeds.
So saying that the majority are cross breeds is 100% untrue!

well in the shelters i have been to i have found it to be so like i said its just my opinion and my husky will never see the inside of an animal shelter i can assure you

Anyway,It will happen,the law will change and make it far more difficult to breed these Animals,thats for sure!!;-))

Roxann

All my puppys are classed as pet quality, as its impossible to say a puppy will make show quality

If you mean what happens to a puppy that does not make show quality at 6 months

some are keep't for their bloodlines but not shown

the others are found nice family homes in my case because the puppy has lived with my children i always try and find a nice family with children to place the puppy with.

but in all cases the dog comes first

Sxx

good i will welcome that to roxanne

Thanks Steve:-))
Thats good to hear.

there is not just rescue centre for cross dogs there are rescue centre for ped breeds as well they are run by people with experience of that dog lilymoon

Poison acorns *as the animal shelters are mostly full of cross breed dogs * - unfortunatly that is a common misconception - Animal shelters are taking in thousands of ped dogs every year - please google 'Many tears rescue' - their rescued dogs are 99% ped!!!!! - We currently only have around 7 non ped dogs in our kennels - the RSPCA in Bradford had 50% ped and dogs trust has many many more unwanted ped dogs....

In my opinion unwanted ped dogs are dominant in the stray and rehoming centers around here, and most of UK too....

Steve - you know i love you...but.....(Sorry, lol)
We have to disagree on this one - the reason there were so many health issues with a particular breed is because of the way humans have bred them going back and some - i do agree now though that these problems (created by humans) are being bred out.......

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Thats true Lilymoon

all breeds have there own breed rescue and do a fine job as well, and all the funds are raised my thr breed club members ae they get no other finacial help

before i bought my husky i went round the local shelters and contacted the husky rescue and they had nothing suitable for children so as it was my choice and my money i bought one from a good breeder recommended by my vet at my mothers recommendation

lmao Lou i know babe we will always disagree on this one lol

but we can disagree and still be friends and have an itelligent chat about the subject

Sxx

Ps wubs you toooooooo xxxxxxxxxxx

Oh yes - not to mention the ped breed rescues!!!!

Which in my calculations would mean there are more Ped than not in rescue centers!!!!

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