General Chat

look that bad spelling ment down lol

Oh, I can't do fish!

I put my foot in it when I went to see a friend.

Her children had just got a new HUGE goldfish and as I stared into the bowl, with my mouth watering, I accidentally said,

"Gosh, it's almost big enough to eat!"

My son's friend (aged 9) was NOT impressed.

The same thing happens to me with rabbits.

Must be how i was dragged up!

Yes,The Animal should suit it environment,I agree.
But This does not happen in lots of cases,does it?
Daff,If I have misunderstood,I apologise,Perhaps I interpreted your post wrongly(The first One)

Lilymoon, Im glad you enjoyed the thread.

can i just say i havent added to this thread

but i didnt find daff coments as agressive just honest open and from the heart

i agree with u daff 100%

i had me kitten spayed soon as she was old enough!

yes it was nice to have an opinion with out being afraid it was a thread that people posted on had a say and was excepted for their opinion abigail even me goldfish are buried in the garden lilymoon

I had my kitten spayed as soon as she was old enough to........I have four cats all have been "done".
I have a new neighbour ( since April 07)
They have had three litters of kittens born since then......more mateing been going on the past couple of weeks.......I think they have 12 cats ( and three dogs ) !!
I have mentioned getting them done and that Cat Protection or RSPCA will help...........
It's driving me round the bend and my cats are scared to leave my garden now.
Amanda

We have two (ex) Tom cats.

They were "improved" as soon as they were old enough!

But the older one had one of his "impediments" inside his body so they had to go looking for it.

I think he might have got a third one somewhere as he still tries to roger his little brother!

cant you phone rspca and talk about it with them maybe they will go and see your neighbour and they never say who phoned lilymoon

He is just showing his little brother who is boss......hopefully he will grow out of it
Abigail.
Our Toby ( cat) trys it on with cudderly toys and he was "done"as a youngster......he is 17 soon.......lol
Amanda x

when i bred my Devon' Rexs

all but one of the kittens i bred

were neutered it was our agreement

and that was over about 14 years

i never bred them for the money

it was to improve the breed

and for the pleasure it gave me

and the new owners

i stayed in touch

with every owner of the kittens

until they died all of old age

and was happy

with the homes each went to

I'm thinking about it Lilymoon.
The woman is very nice to talk to but I suspect behind closed doors she says"no one is going to tell me what to do".
Other folk in the area are beginning to complain about the amount of cats and I tell them all its "that house".

i agree with daff,lots of common sense.well said hunxxx

Joy,You said you bred them to Improve the breed,Personally I find that very odd!

nature works far better at that,In My opinion!

Steve,I really don't think that stopping the breeding of these domestic animals will in any way mean they will become extinct! you only have to look at animal shelters and the amount of animals that are thrown out on the streets!
it would take hundreds of years for that to happen.

Abigail,
Mongrels have been proven to make the best possible companions.
If people went to the R.S.P.C.A or some other well established sanctuary,they would be advised on the right Companion for that particular family.

No!!!Breeding needs to be stopped,If you cant see the reasons,the Im afraid you never will!

Ignorance is bliss,isnt it:-))

I'm not ignorant........ but I still disagree with you :0)

I think you all know where i stand on this one.....






But, just incase there is ANY doubt....

I disagree with breeding domestic animals for proffit/fun/ whatever tickles your fancy....
All owners of dogs should have to hold a licence for that animal, wether it is a ped breed or not. All cats should be neutered or spayed.
If - in the next million years it looks like a breed of dog/cat is to become extinct i agree that a proffesional organisation should be in charge of a breeding programme - not the general public!!!!

I personally think it is a disgrace that 'loving owners' would USE their pet to make them proffit - and the recent increase in peds in animal shelters can only support the theory that animals are being over bread by money hungary humans....
Puppy farms are an abomination - i hope one day the humans feel as much pain and suffering...
Also a rescued animal may have more baggage - it usually consist of more love and affection - it's about choosing the right dog/cat for your circumstances..There are hundereds of thousands of puppies and kittens in rescues (some peds too) that have no more baggage than any other animal...

*Gasps for air*

LOU XXXXXXxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Roxanne, apology accepted, thank you.

I must also say that I am not ignorant either.... I, too, disagree with you... organisations such as the RSPCA and others do a wonderful job often under extremely difficult circumstances, and they have my full support, physically in the past… financially now, as do the Dogs Trust, and a couple of other animal charities, where I sponsor animals unsuitable for rehoming….. but even they don't get the matching of animal and family right quite a lot of the time.. only a few weeks ago one of our members had an uncomfortable experience... I do agree that there are *bad* and *diabolical*breeders out there....

That is a fact....

That ALL breeders are therefore also bad is a rather broad generalisation and based on assumptions you have made from your own experiences... my experiences tell me otherwise, so I make my own assumptions, too, based on these!!

I feel that all people who wish to breed a domestic animal of any description should have to get a licence, and be able to prove their knowledge and expertise in this area… above and beyond the licence that all pet owners should have before even bringing their new animal into their home.

Puppy farms should be razed to the ground... but only after the owners and *breeders* have been locked inside.

Any debate subject in my experience, is usually put forward from a neutral viewpoint as a proposal to be discussed and maybe even new opinions formed as a result.....

My comments were based purely on your statement in your opening post.... and this was clearly not a debateable issue as far as you were concerned.. it was a clear and concise statement of your beliefs in this case. That is absolutely fine... you are certainly entitled to them, as I am to my own.

My comments were also not given from debateable stance, as I believe in them implicitly, and they are not likely to be changed., Just as you do in your own beliefs. Again... that is absolutely fine!

I believe that existing legislation should not only be enforced, but actually tightened up, and every breeder inspected whenever a litter is on the way.

But I still believe that people have the right to choose a pet with a known and well established personality/needs base… and that there is still a place for breeding healthy and well adjusted pedigrees… and that includes breeding out the problems that occur with many of them, such as you get with the dachsund and the Bulldog, for instance.

And I have the absolute right to hold and air those beliefs, as you do yours.

I think that although we might have some principles in common, we must agree to disagree on some of the fundamental points of our individual beliefs.

I do not *protest too much*, you know little or nothing of me or my background, just as I know little or nothing of yours. I would never dream of doing you the discourtesy of assuming that you *protest too much*, I could make that statement only with a true and extensive knowledge of your personal experiences and background.

With regard

Daff

They also need to be a lot tougher with cruelty cases of any form.

My cat was from a shelter paid £30 for her.She was dumped in a garden with 4 bro's ans sister's. Very timid and spat a fair bit.
I knew I could work with her, now she is a spoilt loving little thing, but still a bit jumpy at times.

They breed ragdoll and another type of cat. They are not sold at top prices whatever that is,but the money is used to help keep the shelter.

Marion

I think there should be limits on breeding domestic pets, unfortunately animals end up in the shelters all too quickly - it is vert tempting to want a new puppy or kitten just because next door breeds them but how quick people tire of the animal.

I am against all and sundry breeding the pets just for the sake of making money.

Gill

With respect, Daff,I think you are missing my point!
What reason,apart from the obvious,which is Dogs for the blind,And dogs for certain jobs e.g Security,police dogs is there for breeding animals in this way?
Only one,and that is the vanity of humans,It does not do any good for the animals!
Even as Non-Profit breeding.

Oh !and Daff,It was you that made an Issue,not me,

Quote from Daff

"How very presumptuous and self opinionated!!"
Yes,I am!