Genealogy Chat

in the 1871 census I have a Jesse Kemp without his wife and kids yet he is listed as Head ,can someone please look at image and tell me if thats right or have I missed something R.G 10/440

yes he would still be called head even on own need to put page and folio number to look properly. or tell us age and birth place some times ancestry do cut off families if they are bottem of page Jeanette

That is quite normal, often seen, but IF THE ENTRY IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE CLICK ON NEXT PAGE AS THE REST WILL BE THERE> Maurice

That's what the image says. Perhaps his wife and any kids they may have were visiting relatives at the time of the census. He is definitely on his own as he is in the middle of the page. Kath. x

Quite possibly because his wife and children, if any, were absent from the house on the evening the census was taken. He is shown as married, as opposed to a widower or single, so I think thats your best bet. Ian

thanks for looking I wasnt sure as I couldnt understand which address was his either thanks

i don't any of us have as we need age and place of birth or page and folio number next to where you got the RG number if on own there will be 2// lines by name top and below this tells you family have finished if / line means they share house. Jeanette

there doesnt seem to be any strokes its 1871 Jesse Kemp age 42 Middlesex Tottenham R.G10/440 he is a Fur Skin Dyer thanks, he should be with his wife Mary and at least 2 children Alfred and Emily I cannot find them anywhere else

What are the approx ages of the children and wife? There are a lot to choose from! Ian

There are single strokes before and after his name, indicating that he is on his own. The address is 23 White X Place. Not sure why the X is there. Kath. x

thanks very much Kathleen I will have to have another look for the family then, I did get told that someone in the family thought they had seperated and his wife went off with someone else,

hi Ian its Mary his wife born 1834 Somerset, Emily his daughter born 1857 St Pancras Middlesex ,Alfred William his son born 1859 Ramsgate Kent I must go to bed now dont worry if you are busy I will have another look tomorrow, but thanks if you do get time to look

looks like he is on own sharing with quite a few 23 White X place but does say married Jessie Kemp Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Tottenham, Middlesex, England Civil Parish or Township: St Leonard Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: St James County/Island: London Country: England Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Source information: RG10/440 Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Holywell ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 79 <---- and page are the other numbers you have to say if you want some one to look at image and RG number Page: 46 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 270a GSU Number: 823357 i will have quick look to see if i can see wife Jeanette

View Record Jessie Kemp abt 1829 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Head St Leonard Shoreditch London

1861 View Record Alfred Kemp abt 1861 Div Ii, Kent, England Son St Pancras Middlesex View Record Emily Kemp abt 1857 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Daughter St Pancras Middlesex View Record Jessie Kemp abt 1828 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Head St Pancras Middlesex View Record Mary Kemp abt 1834 Somerset, England Wife St Pancras Middlesex

Problem 1861 View Record Jessie Kemp abt 1828 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Head St Pancras Middlesex View Record Jessie Kemp abt 1828 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Servant St Pancras Middlesex

here they are in 1861 Alfred Kemp abt 1861 Div Ii, Kent, England Son St Pancras Middlesex View Record Emily Kemp abt 1857 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Daughter St Pancras Middlesex View Record Jessie Kemp abt 1828 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Head St Pancras Middlesex View Record Mary Kemp abt 1834 Somerset, England Wife St Pancras Middlesex have you got them in 1881 as i can't seem to see them but have seen some death dates that could be Mary and Emily Kemp, Emily Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 23 Quarter: September Year: 1879 District: Chelsea (1841-1981) County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 1a Page: 183 (click to see others on page) Kemp, Mary Ann Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 43 Quarter: June Year: 1876 District: Shoreditch County: London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 62 (click to see others on page) i had a few rellies saying they married when they where widows Jeanette

1891 Kemp, Jesse abt 1829 Middlesex, England Inmate Hendon Middlesex

Death of Jesse Kemp: Deaths Jun 1898 Kemp Jesse 72 Hendon 3a 126

I take it you have the 1861 census info. Do you know Marys maiden name? She may have reverted to it if she left her hubby. If she remarried, there are 3 Mary kemps in family rels married between 1866 - 1871. It would also be worth checking to see if she remarried under her maiden name. As she doesn't appear on the 1871 under Kemp, with the children with her, it is probable that she is using another surname. Free BMD: 1857 Hedges Sarah Anne St Giles 1b 417 Hodges Sarah Anne St Giles 1b 417 Kemp Jefse St. Giles 1b 417 Snewin Frederick Peter St. Giles 1b 417 **Sperring Mary St Giles 1b 417** (my emphasis) I am too tired to try the possible permmutations, but it might be worth considering this. Ian