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Trying to find maiden name for Evelyn Hood, who married Joseph Gower in 1915 (Godstone Surrey England) She was a widow, and had son Reuben Hood in 1903. When he married in 1922 he gave his father as Reuben Hood deceased.
When Evelyn died in 1944, she was buried in Redstone Cemetery, Surrey, along with her second husband Joseph Gower (died 1937). Also interred with them is Kathleen Matilda Joan House (1919 - 1965) whose parents were Harry James House and Ivy Dorothy nee Hood.
Can anyone help please with Evelyn's maiden name, and the connection with Kathleen Matilda Joan House?
Many thanks Maureen

From the gro website, there are these 2 births.


Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HOOD, REUBEN ALEXANDER ATTWELL Order
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 257 Order

HOOD, REUBEN ALFRED BALLS Order
GRO Reference: 1903 J Quarter in LODDON Volume 04B Page 215

So if the 1903 birth is YOUR Reuben, the mother's maiden name is Balls..

EDIT Looks like his parents were actually Alfred and Ellen so not him.

Evelyn in 1939.


1 Warwick Road , Reigate M.B., Surrey, England

Evelyn Gower 21 Jul 1868 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 1 3
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Leonard E Paine 28 Sep 1915 Male General Store Floor Wal Single 1 2
Joseph A Hart 11 Sep 1913 Male Boiler Construction Erector Heavy Work Single 1 4
Hubert Brown 11 Feb 1895 Male Boiler & Power House Erect Heavy Work Married 1 5

Is this them in 1911?


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
17 Bournemouth Park Road Southend, Prittlewell, Essex, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Edward James Smith Head Widower Male 53 1858 Stepney London Engine Driver
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Ada Lily Smith Daughter Single Female 20 1891 Stratford Essex Laundry Packer
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Kate Smith Daughter - Female 15 1896 Stratford Essex Clerk
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Annie Smith Daughter Single Female 18 1893 Stratford Essex Domestic
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Frederick Holt Nephew - Male 6 1905 Stratford Essex -
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>>Evelyn Hood Visitor Widow Female 38 1873 Sheffield -
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>>Reuben Hood Son - Male 8 1903 Reading -

Ivy Dorothy in 1939.

House Household (7 People) 29 Colesmead Road , Reigate M.B., Surrey, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Ivy D House 23 Jan 1893 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 132 2
Harry J House 18 Jan 1886 Male Postman Married 132 1
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Kenneth C House 16 Jun 1926 Male At School Single 132 4
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Maureen R House 09 Nov 1933 Female At School Single 132 6
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This appears to be Ivy in 1901.



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
35, Norfolk Road, Reading, Reading St Mary, Berkshire, England

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Joseph Sims Head Married Male 40 1861 Timsbury, Somerset, England Tin Solderer Biscuit Factory
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Elizabeth Sims Wife Married Female 34 1867 Burghfield, Berkshire, England -
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May Sims Daughter Single Female 6 1895 Reading, Berkshire, England -
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Kathleen Sims Daughter Single Female 1 1900 Reading, Berkshire, England -
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Emily Sewell Visitor Married Female 61 1840 Dalston, Middlesex, England -
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Thomas Hy Sewell Visitor Married Male 62 1839 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Horse Collar Maker
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>>Ivy D Hood Visitor Single Female 8 1893 Dalston, Middlesex, England

and 1911


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Oak Villa 22 Trewsbury Road, Lewisham, London & Kent, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Richard Pentreath Head Married Male 56 1855 Kent Lee Bank Clerk
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Jane Pentreath Wife - Female 50 1861 Kent Lewisham -
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Mary Joyce Pentreath Daughter Single Female 18 1893 Kent Beckenham Student
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Ivy Dorothy Hood Servant Single Female 19 1892 Msex Enfield Domestic Servant

Reuben's marriage for info.

First name(s) Reuben
Last name Hood
Name note -
Age 19
Marriage year 1922
Marriage date 01 Jul 1922
Marriage place Redhill
Father's first name(s) Reuben
Father's last name Hood (dec) engineer
Spouse's first name(s) Winnfred Daisy Ada Minnie
Spouse's last name Collins
Spouse's birth year 1904
Spouse's birth date 1904
Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph
Spouse's father's last name Collins
Residence Redhill, Surrey, England

Lillian Collins and Walter Coomber were witnesses.



and in 1939

Hood Household (9 People) 19 Ridge Cottages , Godstone R.D., Surrey, England


First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Winifred D A M Hood 19 Sep 1903 Female Housewife Married 62 2
Reuben Hood 28 Dec 1902 Male Railway Clerk Married 62 1
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Donald P Hood 25 Jan 1929 Male At School Single 62 7
Roy K Hood 24 Jan 1930 Male At School Single 62 8
Jillian Gibbs (Hood) 06 Mar 1938 Female Under School Age Single 62 9

Can't see Ivy's birth .

You may have to buy a copy of her marriage cert to see who she named as her father.

There is a tree on ancestry that has Edward James Smith (from the above 1911 census) as Reuben's father, no marriage shown. It also suggests that Ivy is the daughter of William Hood and Evelyn Hood. There is nothing to back any of this up though.

This is the only death for a Reuben Hood I can see.

Deaths Mar 1914 (>99%)
Hood Reuben 63 Chesterton 3b 576

Could Ivy be his daughter ?

Thankyou everyone! Lots of new info. The 1911 Census with Smith family is right Evelyn and Reuben. 1939 for Reuben and also 1939 for Ivy and Harry also correct. Still hoping to find Evelyn’s maiden name
Regards Maureen

If Evelyn knew her father, his name will be on her marriage cert.

That would give you her maiden name

However, as well as there being no trace of a birth for Ivy Dorothy, there isn't one for Evelyn's son Reuben, bearing in mind that he is supposed to have been born in Reading

Looking at the birth years for Evelyn and Ivy, it isn't inconceivable that they were mother and daughter

It's also potentially significant that Ivy was in Reading in 1901

The death Carole posted is this man

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
School Lane Haslingfield Cambridge, Haslingfield, Cambridgeshire, England

Reuben Hood Head Married Male 60 1851 Haslingfield Cambs Postman Transcription
Emma Hood Wife Married Female 63 1848 Haslingfield Cambs - Transcription
Arthur Goode Cousin - Male 11 1900 Leytonstone Essex School

Reuben's stated father Reuben Hood, engineer, deceased, sounds like an invented father to cover illegitimacy.

I can't see any likely Reuben Hood in 1901.
The one who died in 1914 was a rural postman (in 1911), not an engineer.

Can't see any marriage of a Hood and an Evelyn.

Does Evelyn give her father's name on her marriage cert (to Joseph Gower) ?


The tree owner who has Reuben junior listed as son of Edward James Smith may have been confused by the fact that Reuben is listed as "son" on the 1911 census - but it means he's Evelyn's son, not Edward's.
On the other hand, Edward's wife Marion/Annie (nee Ilott) had died between 1901 and 1911 - so who knows ?!

Name: Ivy Dorothy Hood
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 22 Apr 1894
Baptism Place: Stamford Hill St John, Vartry Road, Haringey, England
Father: William Hood Occ: Carpenter
Mother: Emma Hood
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address: 80, Templeton Road


Name: Ivy D House
Death Age: 76
Birth Date: abt 1892
Registration Date: Jun 1968
Registration district: Surrey South eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 260

Thanks again - please keep info coming. I took it that Reuben b 1903 was Evelyn Hoods son. On her marriage cert for Joseph Gower in 1915 she gives her father as Thomas Hood which doesn’t ring right as she is Dow as widow!!! Wondered if Edward James smith (1911 Census) could have been her father - he was widower and she widowed so may have gone home?
Regards
Maureen

Maybe she wasn't a widow, but just said she was for respectability, because she had a son.

A tree on Ancestry suggest that Edward Smith fathered her son Reuben

If Evelyn was his daughter, it would have said so on the census.

I doubt very much that she was married at any time before the marriage to Gower

Have you looked for her in ealier censuses?

That's an interesting baptism of Ivy, Erika.
I wonder why there's no birth record?

This William Hood is a carpenter, in roughly the right area of London - but this Emma's too old to be Ivy's mother:

William Hood
in the 1891 England Census
Name: William Hood
Gender: Male
Age: 60
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1831
Spouse: Emma Hood
Child: Edward Hood
Birth Place: Poulshot, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Twickenham
Residence Place: Twickenham, Middlesex, England
Sub registration district: Twickenham
ED, Institution or Vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 1026
Folio: 163
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hood 60
Emma Hood 63
Edward Hood 23

Evelyn wasn't born in Sheffield, anyway.

There are two Evelyns born in Sheffield within a year or two of 1873, but neither is named Hood, and both are in established families with married parents, and appear on later censuses.

On marriage cert Evelyn Hood to Joseph Gower she says father Tom Hood Saddler
Regards Maureen