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There a few William Triggs and so it can be difficult saorting out which one is yours.
As you said, he was in and out of prison!
The following do look as if they are your William ............
England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Piece number 10
Series HO140
Source A Calendar Of Prisoners For Trial At The Shirehall Hereford For The Year 1870
First name(s) William
Last name Trigg
Year 1870
Birth year 1856
Occupation Labourer
County Hereford
Place -
Court Hereford
Age 14
Date 03 Jan 1870
Victim's first name(s) Lord
Victim's last name Littelton
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from United Kingdom
Offence:- Larceny of 9 wires from Lord Littleton, Sollershope
Sentence:- Imprisonment with 1 month hard labour
England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 Transcription
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Piece number 14
Series HO140
Source A Calendar Of Prisoners For Trial Spring Assizes For The Year 1871
First name(s) William
Last name Trigg
Year 1871
Birth year 1854
Occupation Labourer
County Hereford
Place -
Court Hereford
Age 17
Date 23 Mar 1871
Victim's first name(s) Edward
Victim's last name Paine
Victim 2 first name(s) William
Victim 2 last name Stallard
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from United Kingdom
Charge:- stealing counterpane from Edward Paine, Sollershope, on 18 March 1871.
Sentence:- Acquitted of Larceny
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Charged with Richard Trigg, age 20. Richard found guilty of Larceny (after a previous offence). Sentenced to 3 months Hard Labour
William and Richard also detained and charged with stealing a quantity of wheat, property of William Stallard, at Brockhampton, 18 March 1871. Bill not found.
England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 Transcription
First name(s) William
Last name Trigg
Age 21
Birth year 1852
Occupation Labourer
Year 1873
Date 17 Mar 1873
Court Hereford
Place Herefordshire
Victim's first name(s) John
Victim's last name Jarvis
Source A Calendar of Prisoners Tried at Assizes & Quarter Sessions - Hereford
Series HO140
Piece number 22
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from United Kingdom
Charge:- Breaking and entering house of John Jarvis, stealing 2 loaves of bread, Sollershope, 18 March 1873
Bill not found
England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 Transcription
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Piece number 650
Series PCOM3
Source Home Office And Prison Commission: Male Licences
First name(s) William
Last name Trigg
Year 1876
Birth year 1854
Place -
Age 22
Date ? ? 1876
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from United Kingdom
Single, Labourer
Crime:- Receiving stolen property from a person who had committed a Burglary. And previous conviction for Felony
Conviction March 29 1876 Hereford Assizes. 10 years Penal Servitude
Previous convictions:- 29 June 1874 Stealing Eggs, and six times summarily convicted of petty larceny, poaching and vagrancy
Next of Kin:- His sister Mary Ann Oakley residing at Lower Buckwell, Parish of Woolhope, Herefordshire <<<<<<<<???????
Apparently learnt to read and write while in Prison
Description:- dark complexion; hair black; eyes grey; 5' 9"; strong build; low forehead overhanging eyes f forbidding countenance
Licensed 24 March 1884
Note at head of sheet:- Dec 16 1875 -- Attempted to escape from his cell by breaking down a portion of the partition wall. Signed Governor of Hereford Gaol
several more, and then
England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 Transcription
First name(s) William
Last name Trigg
Age 42
Birth year 1853
Occupation Labourer
Year 1895
Date 27 Jul 1895
Court Liverpool
Place Lancashire
Source A Calendar of Prisoners Tried at Assizes & Quarter Sessions
Series HO140
Piece number 161
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from United Kingdom
6 previous convictions listed, last one in 1890 (stealing 232 lbs brass. 12 months Hard Labour)
Charge:- Stealing 175 lbs brass metal, on 3rd August 1895, Property of Saugar Sugar Company
Conviction:- Guilty of simple larceny, after a previous conviction of felony
Sentence:- 12 calendar months Hard Labour
England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 Transcription
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Piece number 8
Series MEPO6
Source Convicts List 1896
First name(s) William
Last name Trigg
Year 1895
Birth year 1853
Occupation Labourer
Place Liverpool
Birth date ? ? 1853
Date ? ? 1895
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from United Kingdom
List of Persons coming within the provisions of Sections 5, 7 and 8 of the Prevention of Crimes Act, 1871
William Trigg, Liverpool Prison. Birth year 1858 (think this is wrong!) Woolhope, Hereford
Description:- height 5' 7¾"; Hair brown; eyes Black, sunken; Low forehead; lost left little finger at second joint
Sentenced to 12 months for Larceny, Liverpool Assizes, 27-8-95
Date of Liberation, Intended Address and Occupation:- 26-8-96; Earlestown, Lancashire; Labourer
Note (handwritten in red):- Presumed dead 12-11-1936
England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 Transcription
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Piece number 23
Series MEPO6
Source Habitual Criminals Register 1912
First name(s) William
Last name Trigg
Year 1911
Birth year 1853
Occupation Stoker
Place Liverpool
Birth date ? ? 1853
Date ? ? 1911
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from United Kingdom
Born 1853, Hereford
Description:- lost 4th left finger
Charge:- Shop breaking, Liverpool Assizes (Warrington)
Sentence: 12 months 12-12-1911
Date of Liberation, Intended Address, Occupation:- 12-12-1912; Earlestown; Stoker
Presumed dead 12-11-1936
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OMG we had no idea he was so prolific.
It seems l was right assuming he was in Prison.
No wonder he was so old starting a family.
Thank you so much.
I have recmmended you to a friend who will hopefully be in touch soon.
( once her new roof has been fitted).
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Although l was shocked to see William imprisoned so many times.he appears to have been extremely poor. Hopefully l can look into more of his circumstances.
His presumed date of death is wrong. He is down as deceased on my in laws
Marriage certificate in 1931.
Thank you
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That "presumed date of death" was a guess ............ I presume because the authorities had not been able to trace either him or a member of his family (if they did in fact try to contact family members).
One of the public family trees has his death in the late 1920s.
BUT, you should also be aware that not everything on a marriage certificate is the truth!
Fathers are declared dead when they are alive, and not declared deceased when they are!
It often depends on how the vicar asks the question
For example
"What is your father's name?"
may or may not elicit the added information ".... and he is dead"
OR, father may have left the family, they lost touch with him, and so assume he is dead.
No documents had to be shown to the vicar to prove any fact given to him ................. so ages can be wrong, someone may be marrying bigamously, they may be using the wrong name, etc etc etc
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There are 2 possible deaths for William
1. If he went back to the Ledbury area. 61 = born ca 1855
Deaths Jun 1916 (>99%)
Trigg William 61 Ledbury 6a 550
2. If he stayed in Lancashire 74 = born ca 1854. This is the death that at least one of the Public Family trees on ancestry has accepted, but without citing the actual certificate
Deaths Mar 1928 (>99%)
Trigg William 74 Warrington 8c 160
You would have to buy the death certificate to determine which one is yours ............. hopefully the informant would be a member of his family!
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Oh Thank you. Yes the Warrington one is correct.
The Family lived in Newton- le-Willows which comes under
Warrington.
And it ties in with my in laws marriage certificate in 1931.
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Mollydolly....
Re Joe Mullen.
You will find he is buried in Thanbyuzayat War Cemetery..... Google the name of the Cemetery and it brings you to the CWG site for the Far East
MULLEN, JOSEPH
Rank:TrooperService No:3857387
Date of Death:23/11/1943
Age:24
Regiment/Service:Reconnaissance
Corps 18th (5th Bn. The Loyal Regt.) Regt.
Grave Reference:B3. S. 14.
Cemetery:THANBYUZAYAT WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of John Thomas Mullen and Mary Mullen; husband of Doris Mary Mullen, of Parr, St. Helen's, Lancashire.
He is also commemorated on the Thai Burma Railway Roll of Honour Site
http://www.roll-of-honour.org.uk/
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Thats great Thank you.
Joe can go on our Family tree now.
So sad he was a lovely young man.
Mum used to have lots of letters from him.
I would read them and admire the beautiful writing.
But l couldn't fathom out who could be calling mum Darling when she was married to my dad.
The letters disappeared years ago . Shame.
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That is so saddening to read. It appears that Joe got a short straw.
My mum gave my husband a recce badge to put in the Army museum when he was in the TA in Warrington. Wives pinned the army bedges to their handbags.
Once again. Thank you
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