Genealogy Chat

Sorry, Austin, I'd better start reading threads more thoroughly before I post.

No problem Margaret! Sorry if it sounded a bit abrupt

:-)

Sorry havent had a chance to have a proper read through yet.. im cheekily have a quick scan through at work!
I had Charles Williams father down as John Ephraim and mother as Martha Try..


Thank you everyone for looking and replying.. i will have a proper read tonight!

Think that's incorrect Nadine- I suspect that Charles (son of John & Martha) is the one that married Emma Skidmore. When you get time take a look at the information posted, I'm sure you'll see.

This is from page one that Margaret posted:

Name: Charles William Cain
Spouse: Emma Skitmore
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1875
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Cain
Spouse Father: William Skitmore
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses were Martha Cain and Harry Skidmore
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Interestingly that Charles & Emma also had a son, Charles William, born 10th July 1877.

Name: Charles William Cane
Record Type: Baptism
Born 10 July 1877
Baptism Date: 6 Jan 1879
Father's name: Charles William Cane
Mother's name: Emma Cane
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

(There is a possible death which would have been shortly after this baptism in first quarter 1879)

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It seems a lot of trees on Ancestry have made the same mistakes- confusing the two Charles William Cain.

Charles W, the son of John E & Martha was born in 1853. He possibly died in 1878, which could be why there is so much confusion.

Yours was born in 1855

As posted on previous page:
CAIN, CHARLES WILLIAM
GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in HAMPSTEAD Volume 01A Page 433

After Solomon Heady dies (1874), Rebecca (mother of your Charles William), marries George Bonny in 1877:

Name: Rebecca Cain
Spouse: George Bonny
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 5 Aug 1877
Parish: St John, Hampstead
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Charles Cain
Spouse Father: Samuel Bonny
Register Type: Parish Register
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This is her in 1891- note Grandaughter, Lilly- Lilly was the daughter of your Charles William Cain and Elizabeth (nee Hosier):

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Willow Terrace, Hampstead, London, England

George Bonney Head Married Male 53 1838 General Labourer Sudbury, Suffolk,
Rebecca Bonney Wife Married Female 54 1837 - Hampstead, Middlesex,
Emily E Bonney Daughter Single Female 13 1878 Scholar Hampstead, Middlesex,
Samuel Bonney Son Single Male 11 1880 Scholar Hampstead, Middlesex,
William Stringer Boarder Widower Male 73 1818 General Labourer Hampstead, Middlesex,
Lilly Cane Granddaughter Single Female 43 1848 - Hampstead, Middlesex,

Also note 'William Stringer'- he was the partner of Rebecca's Mum, Ann.

Thanks so much guys! Im slowly putting it into the tree and amending everything!

Im guessing she had a couple of kids out of wedlock (tut tut!) and then hooked up with Soloman (cant find a marriage certificate so im not sure if they married?) but how come their children had her surname not his?? i would have thought she would want them to have his name?

Burial Register summary

Cain Charles William
Burial date 10 February 1879
Location Camden

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

(probably more on Surnames above)

(London Burials, Ancestry sometimes have also, one below if relating)

Solomon Cain
abt 1875 28 Apr 1876 St John, Hampstead Camden Burial

Chris :)

(without confusing!, who was below,as stated on page 1)

(as charles died in 1903)

Ive done lots of trees for friends but this side of the tree is the most confusing! lol

Nadine, I doubt Rebecca ever married Soloman as she later marries George Bonny under the surname Cain.

I believe all these children are Rebecca's-. As an unmarried woman, regardless of the father, they would have all been registered under surname Cain (although many woman did lie about marital status)

Charles Henry Cain b1855 Hampstead

Henry Cain b1862 Hampstead (Died 1865 Hampstead)

Albert George Cain b1867 Hampstead

Sarah Ann Cain b 1869 Hampstead (Died 1872 Hampstead)

Soloman Cain b1874 Hampstead (Died 1876 Hampstead)
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I was hoping once you'd started inputting the information into a tree, that it might make it all easier to understand.

If there's anything that you're not sure of just ask.