Genealogy Chat

Please could someone advise me on this...
If there is no birth record for a person
But there is 2 marriages and a death...
What would be the next step to take ?
Many thanks....there must be a record somewhere of the birth
Christine

Try putting all the details on here and I'm sure someone will be kind enough to help.

I would say the next step is to post the name here and we can all look for it.
Snap! Nina.

Hi ,Thanks for repling..
But I have tried before a long while ago now..
And I did not want to told off..
I have done what I can..even phoned the reg office...and they have no record of the birth.
I just wondered really do many of you come accross this...

Oh Christine, we won't tell you off.!
Maybe the person was registered with another name, or more than one name and didn't like it.
Put details on here if you like and we will see what we turn up.
Joan

Christine,
I understand your frustration.
I have someone in 1891 census and 1901....that's it... No birth, marriage or death....supposedly born c. 1882

Try posting the name.
It's amazing what a different set of people can find sometimes.


Gwyn

I have the same problem with my paternal grandfather born 1884.

And his 5 siblings.

BMDs - nah.

Baptisms - one sister - must have been by then aged about 7, one unknown brother (at least my father never mentioned him) again no Birth reg, no death reg (and I am assuming he died young as my father never mentioned him!)

I think they may have been registered in their mother's name as I do not know if the parents ever married as I have never found the death reg of my gr grandfather's first wife. BUT, without at least one birth cert - I have no idea who gr grandma might be so no idea what name the children might be registered in!

So, you have my complete sympathy - I understand exactly what you are going through and I hope that you have better luck than me!!!

Jill

Thankyou everyone..
My Grandmother
Isabella Baldam born nov 1912 Durham died jan 1968 aged 55 in Durham
I have phoned Bishop Auckland reg office...and nothing..
All her brothers and sisters were registered..

Dear Christine

Do you know your great grandmother's maiden name from one of the other children's birth registrations?

What was your grandmother's position in the family; eldest, youngest etc.?

I ask as I can see some others with the name but I am not sure if I have the right ones.

If you are sure that you have a registration of one of her siblings you could send for that birth certificate and so find your great grandmother.

Janet

Thankyou Janet..
Isabella must have been the second Youngest..
The last born child was Edith 1917 (sedgeield)
Maiden name of GGrandmother was Mitchinson..
Many thanks

I am beginning to wonder if Isabella was registered under a different first name than the one she was known as (as was my grandmother).

I've had a good search round and I have to admit your grandmother has me beaten at the moment.

At least, though, you are able to go one step further as you know the name of your great grandmother. My maternal grandfather was illegitimate and my great grandmother took the secret of his father's name to the grave with her!

Janet

I don't know if this is right:
From FreeBMD
September Quarter 1898 Middlesborough District
George Pearson Baldham to Catherine Mitchinson 9d 924

In 1901 and 1911 the family lived in the Middlesboro area Yorkshire

is this it ?

Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Baldam George Pearson Middlesborough 9d 924
Mitchinson Catherine Middlesbro' 9d 924

1911

HOUSEHOLD BALDAM AGNES LEAH F 1900 11 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD BALDAM ELIZABETH F 1909 2 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD BALDAM GEORGE PEARSON M 1873 38 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD BALDAM GEORGE PEARSON M 1902 9 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD BALDAM JOHN WILLIAM M 1903 8 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD BALDAM PRUDENCE F 1905 6 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD BALDAM CATHRINE F 1875 36 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Baldam George Pearson Middlesborough 9d 924
Mitchinson Catherine Middlesbro' 9d 924

Ah, the marriage looks more likely, then.

Maybe Isabella's birth just wasn't registered. Just one of those things.

Maybe her mother was unwell and father was busy looking after the others and worried about his wife and new baby. Grandparents/relatives filling the house and he just forgot until it was just too late.

At least it looks as though you can get back further with the marriage and births of the others.

Good luck

Janet

I wonder if the Sedgefield marriage is correct?

Births Dec 1917
Baldam Edith Mitchinson Sedgefield 10a 292

1901
Name: Geo Pearson Baldam
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: No Ormesby, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Ormesby
Ecclesiastical parish: Ormesby Holy Trinity
Town: North Ormesby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 235
Household Members: Name Age
Geo Pearson Baldam 27
Catherine Baldam 25
Agnes Baldam 2
Violet Baldam 8 months

Christine
If you get a copy of Edith's birth certificate you will know if her mother was called Catherine.