Genealogy Chat

We shouldn't be having this trouble. None of the surnames are that common. Baldam, Mitchinson, Liddle, Applegarth, Gustard. Not exactly Smith are they?

Isabella is also not that common.

Catherine seems to have had a sister Ann, but not a Mary.

Christine, what was Catherine's mum's maiden name?

Do you have any more info on the family you can share with us?

1871 England Census
about George Gustard
Name: George Gustard
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Newbottle, Durham, England
Civil parish: Framwellgate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert
Town: Framwellgate Moor
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members: Name Age
George Gustard 32
Elizabeth Gustard 31
Mary Halliday 12
Isabella Halliday 10
Joseph Halliday 3
John Halliday 3

No, no help either. George is the right age and there is an Isabella.

What about the 2nd marriage?

Rose

22 in the June quarter of 1934 means she was born 1911/1912.

Rose

Got to clock off for tonight - OH wants the computer.

Will come back tomorrow to check on any progress. You'll all have it sorted by then, won't you?

Sue

Hi,
Isabella age 22..Father George Pearson Baldam

Hi..
Gosh How I wish I could do what you do???
From what i know the Mitchinsons go right back to coming from Edingbrough..Although Catherines Mum was married in Stockton..
So interesting though that the ones you have seen come from Houghton..thats where some of my Dads family are from...
My Isabella is a mystery...

What is listed for Isabella's age in 1934 when she marries?

Rose

Just tracing back Mary Mitchinson to see if she is related to Catherine, I found this, but I'm not sure how it helps at all:


1891 England Census
about Mary Mitchinson
Name: Mary Mitchinson
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's Name: Isabella
Gender: Female
Where born: Easington Lane, Durham, England

Civil parish: Hetton Le Hole
Ecclesiastical parish: Lyons
Town: Easington Lane
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Houghton Le Spring
Sub-registration district: Hetton le Hole
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Gustard 52
Isabella Gustard 43
Mary Mitchinson 12 >>>>>>>>step daughter
Jane Gustard 6
John H Gustard 3
Dora A Adams 15

There's an Isabella here but not sure how it helps!

Hi,
I have been trying for ages to view what you found Blossom in Essex its going so slow and then saying very busy !!!!!

Hi,
Yes the marriges are the right ones..
Its a pickle isent it...
I remember James Applegarth.he was a lovely man.

Blossom, apparently Isabella is an alternative for Elizabeth. So the Stewart birth could be worth considering.

Marriage of Robert William Stewart to Mary Mitchinson, Sedgfield Sep 1899, 10a/193. But they also have Jennie in 1916. I was wondering if the parents died and Elizabeth/Isabella was taken in by George and Catherine if she was a relative.

Christine, am I right in assuming your grandmother married Thomas G Liddle June 1934, and then James E Applegarth Mar 1955? Is that something you know to be right from family knowledge? In which case the death of Isabel (la) Applegarth in Jan 1968 age 55 would seem to be the right person, even if we don't believe the age.

We ain't getting anywhere are we?

Hi Blossom in Essex..
Just popping up the school ..But Enough time to say..
I have marriage cert ..First marrige
The date of birth someone gave me from her death reg.
I am intrigued about the info you have put..
Will look morewhen I get back
Thankyou so much

Been having a little poke around...

Can't find any Isabellas at all for that area in 1912, so tried all births with mother's maiden name of Mitchinson for 1912. The only one for the right district is this one:

Stewart Elizabeth Mitchinson Sedgefield 10a 376 Scan available - click to view

which doesn't really help at it is outside the census range. What I'm thinking is...OK her first name may not have been Isabella, but perhaps her surname wasn't Baldam at the ime of registration for some reason. Just a thought...

Christine,
I was wondering about the date of birth. How do you know that she was born in November 1912? Do you have the marriage certs? What was her age on these? I am just wondering whether she was born earlier than this.

Gosh thankyou so much...
Rose that is so interesting....
..I will phone my Mum later up north and try once more for any info..but after all this time of trying??????
Thankyou again
Christine

Just a thought, I havn't looked at the records,but Isabella actually be Arabella??

You know, I wonder if the Nov 1912 birthdate you have is correct?


The Charles here:

Births Sep 1913
Balddam Charles Mitchinson Sedgefield 10a 404

was born 20 Jul 1913.

He'd be VERY premature if Isabella were born in Nov. 1912. This makes me think she was born before that.

Rose

Jillian,

So did you look on family search?

I don't think you should add your family to Christine's thread, it will only confuse things. Start your own.

Jillian

Definitely look on family search. You won't be able to order parish records without a batch number anyway.

Christine's situation is that other births in the family were all registered, so it is a bit odd that one wasn't. Does the same apply to your James Rothe?

Margaret