Genealogy Chat

Welcome back Derek,hope you had a good time.

Hi Derek

Sorry I don't know the exact area, only that it's Chesterfield Reg.district, but have got some Tattersalls born in Brampton, Alfreton, Riddings, Baslow and Dronfield, believe her husband was Robert Tattersall, does this help? Also looking for George Tattersall who probably died between 1829 and 1844, could be Brampton.

Thank you
Kathleen

Nice to have you back Derek...

Welcome back Derek, Hope you had a good rest from us lot. :-)

Hi Joan..Gill..Gooner.......nice to feel welcome..thanks a lot.....give me some work to do!! I'm refreshed and raring to go.

Derek xx

Hi kathleen........just a couple of possiblities........early days and i'll follow this through.......
I have a GEORGE TATTERSALL born 28.12.1793 Chesterfield son of Robert and Elizabeth.......

and..

GEORGE TATTERSALL married MARY HUTCHINSON 10.07.1821 at Dronfield.

just for your information with no suggestion that they are what you're looking for....

I don't have the Chesterfiled or Dronfield records, but as you may know i do have access to thme on my visits to matlock from time to time.

I can tell you that George did not die at brampton, becasue i do have those records........

I do have the baslow redords........

Derek

Hi Derek

Thank you for replying, I believe George and Mary are the parents of my GGGrandfather Robert b 1822 and married in 1844, on his marriage cert, his Father George is stated as being deceased. I got some info from IGI on George Tattersall and Mary Hutchinson and also George's Father being Robert and his Mother being Elizabeth but have never been able to find Elizabeth's surname or where they married. I've just checked again on the 1841 census and see that Mary Tattersall nee Hutchinson was in fact living in Nottingham so it's highly likely that George died there so you won't be able to check his death. So it just leaves finding the BMD details for Elizabeth if possible.

Many thanks

Kathleen

Hello Kathleen..I'm still trying to find an answer for you..will probably need as trip to matlock...but in passing, you mention that you have Tattersalls in Baslow.. i has a look, becasue i do have the full records, and it is interesting that they had all died or moved on by 1800...The last Tattersall to be born in Baslow was actually the son of a George 1792..the last burial was 1800.

Derek

Hi Derek :-)

I just caught sight of this post as I had sought help earlier in the day for a seperate query.

But I am not sure if you are able to help me regarding a marriage??

My 3 times Great Grandparents were William Longden & Sarah Mather they moved to Yorkshire for a short time - then moved onto and settled in Manchester. William was from Winster & Sarah was from Chesterfield - no record of there marriage has been located and I was wondering if you may be able to help?? I am guessing they married in Chesterfield being where Sarah was born. William was born in 1804 & Sarah in 1806 - I have put there marriage to have been anywhere between c1828 & 1832. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in Advance - Steve Campbell.

Hi Steve..interesting one is this!!
I have the full Winster Parish Records...and have found almost all there is to know about WILLIAM LONGDEN baptised Winster 20.03.1804...son of William Longden and ANN BURTON possibly Ann Buxton (1780-1842)

SARAH MATHER was born Chesterfield 14.04.1806 (baptised 25.04.1806) daughte of James mather and Sarah (nee Walker??)
I believe that sarah died in manchester 1865 and William in 1880

Would be handy if you can confirm this.

At this moment I haven't found a marriage for Sarah Mather in any of the three counties: Derbyshire Lancashire or Yorkshire....

Perhaps you can also confirm (or not!!) that William and Sarah had at least SEVEN children..the eldest of which appears to have been born in Sheffield..and the reat at Hulme manchester......

James Longden (if I'm right) was born 1832 in Sheffield, which means Willam could have married Sarah any time up to then.

I'm still looking.......would be intersting to know what you have got if i am to help you further.

Derek

Hi Derek :-)

Firstly B I G apologies for the great delay in my reply. It was getting late when I wrote the posting that I forgot to mention I live in Australia and difference in time would delay my reply.

Indeed the family you write about are mine. My research from a few years ago has been used by various branches of the wider family tree out there and added to various Ancestry postings out there in Cyberspace. I am finally making my way back to several of my fathers maternal branches - the Longdens have missing elements and I would be ever so grateful to find there marriage details - Thankyou for looking for me....sounds like you have a number of wonderful resources and great knowledge of the area ;-)

William Longden b:1804-1880 & Sarah Mather b:1806-d:1865 had at least 6 children
James Longden b:1832 [Sheffield Yorkshire]-d:1902
Sarah Longden b:c1835-d:1873 *My Ancestor.
Ellen Longden b:c1838
William Longden b:1841-d:1922
Ann Longden b:1844
Mary Jane Longden b:1850
[*From Sarah down - All Manchester Born].

From IGI FAMILYSEARCH I found the following entry.
Joseph Longden chr: 12th October 1828 in Youlgrave Winster Derbyshire - Parents as William & Sarah - No Maiden name given for Sarah - [Not fully sure it is my William & Sarah though] but it could very well be for a child who died before they went onto Sheffield and then settled in Manchester??

It was the above IGI entry that made me think [if it is them] there marriage may have fallen between the years c1828-1832 when James was born in Sheffield Yorkshire.

What do you think Derek??

Cheers - Steve Campbell.

Nudge
Julia in Derbyshire

ClayCross area
Hi Chris I know this may sound a bit vague but do you have anything on Jepson family, George Jepson born 6/5/1916 East Tunnel Row clay cross his dad Thomas I think was born 1864 and his dad Issac born 1844, Issac married a lady called percilla and Thomas married Elizabeth Bedford We think Thomas was born around clay cross and Issac in the Heanage area of chesterfield I have then placed in the 1891 cenus 1881 cenus and poss1871 cenus . Any help would be gratefully recieved Thanking you in advance Thanks so much Hazel

ClayCross area
Hi Derek I know this may sound a bit vague but do you have anything on Jepson family, George Jepson born 6/5/1916 East Tunnel Row clay cross his dad Thomas I think was born 1864 and his dad Issac born 1844, Issac married a lady called percilla and Thomas married Elizabeth Bedford We think Thomas was born around clay cross and Issac in the Heanage area of chesterfield I have then placed in the 1891 cenus 1881 cenus and poss1871 cenus . Any help would be gratefully recieved Thanking you in advance Thanks so much Hazel

Hi Derek, Have you records for Glossop please. I am trying to find parents,birth and death of Francis Richardson born 1786. Also trying to find any siblings many thanks.

Hi Steve.i have the Winster and Youlgreave records......and pretty wellall the Longdens and their forebears, marraiages and children..up to the time William left to marry Sarah............anything you want to know, just ask.

Derek

Hi Derek :-)

Oooh Ah - thats most generous - Thats like a carrot in front of a rabbit - *Naughty Wink ;-)
Um - Now where do I begin - m?

I do have all sorts of bits and bobs sourced from all over - and in time would love to have a read of any of the original documents [michrofiched - L.D.S] - but if you are able to expand on any of the below information would be terrific and a massive bonus.

The following is I believe my line to be.

William Longden b:c1740 [No parents regarding this William have been located I am led to believe] he married
1st: Ann Clayton c:1767 [no record of there marriage by the looks] there children are as follows.
Joseph Longden b:1768
Job Longden b:1769.
Ann Clayton died c:1771 [no death record].
William Longden remarried on the 2nd June 1771 [St John's Winster] to Elizabeth Moorehouse b:1742 - daughter of William Moorehouse & Mary [Unknown] .
William & Elizabeth had the following children.
Mary Longden b:1772.
Hannah Longden b:1777.
Ann Longden b:1781 - d:1787.
Elizabeth Longden b:1784.
and William Longden b:1775 - d: Feb 1863 who married Ann Burton b:1780 - d:1842 - daughter of Anthony Burton & Hannah [Unknown] - they married 30th December 1799 at St John's Winster.
There children are as follows.
John Longden b:1800.
Hannah Longden b:1802.
William Longden b:1804 * My line.
Mary Longden b:1806.
Samuel Longden b:1807.
Anthony Longden b:1811.
James Longden b:1814.
Joseph Longden b:1816.
George Longden b:1819.
Ellen Longden b:1821.
[ Obviously no television in those days;-) ]

Thats more than enough me thinks - Big ta for anything D :-)

Cheers - Steve Campbell.

Ok Steve.............I can confirm what you have sent me..with the additional bonus of baptism and burial dates where applicable...plus some maiden names....

There appear to be TWO families that include WILLIAN LONGDEN lines......one is yours..and the other i include in case there is a link..

I have to tell you that William Longden 1740 was not baptised at Winster.

There were FOUR Williams b.Winster:-

William son of William and Hannah (nee Staley) 28.10.1725
William son of William and Ellen 25.06.1758
William son of William and Elizabeth(nee Moorehouse) 05.02.1775
William son of William and Ann (nee Burton) 20.03.1804

There was also a William son of John and Ann 09.07.1783


Ok...Marriages...William m Hannah Staley 20.03.1725
William m Ann Clayton 17.08.1767
William m Elizabeth Moorehouse 02.06.1771
William m Ann Burton 30.12.1799

ANN BURTON was one of four children of ANTHONY BURTON who marries Hannah Gamble 31.03.1777

The other three were:Thomas Burton 28.06.1778
Anthony Burton 11.01.1784
John 22.04.1787
Ann Burton bapt. 29.10.1780..buried 26.01.1842
Elizabeth moorhouse buried 08.04.1810
Enough for now.......I have the exact baptisms of all the children you mention, along with a couple of early deaths..more later.its late!!

Derek

Steve..one quick addition to accomoany message below:

William Longden married Ann Clayton 17.08.1767.

Their children:

Joseph baptised 21.01.1768
Job baptised 12.01.1770

All data direct from original Winster Parish records.
No submitted IGI nonsense!!

Derek

Hi Derek – FANTASTIC – BIG THANK YOU :-)

I’m not surprised that there is no bapt record re: William Longden b: c1740 – This explains the full stop that I have found when seeking him out –> sigh….a well.

Derek I did some googling today and found on the Winster site a wonderful photograph of William Longden & Ann Burton’s gravestone [not sure who posted it??]. William Longden died 11th February 1863 & Ann Burton died: 23rd January 1842 Ann aged 62 years – It has written that William was aged 84 – but as we know exact ages are not always known even by close family members – he would have been closer to 88 years of age at death.

The maiden surname of Gamble for Hannah has been a mystery by what I can see when reading bits and bobs of other trees – I love knowing the maiden surnames of my female ancestors…very frustrating that in many instances in years gone by it was more than not overlooked – HUGE thank you for this.

Speaking of maiden surnames can I be a very cheeky monkey and ask about - Elizabeth Moorhouse bapt in 1742 has parents written as William Moorehouse & mother as Mary [Unknown maiden surname] on IGI – any likely suspects amongst your OPR resources for mothers maiden name and a possible marriage date for her parents??

More cheekiness – Ann Burton’s bapt 1780 father Anthony Burton on [IGI - though not sure of accuracy naturally] I believe he may have been born around the year 1747 – again any likely suspects??

Again Thank you D - Any bapt - burial - marriage records with thoughts in general -> all eagerly recieved.

Cheers - Steve Campbell.