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ANGUS ************ Once again you are very welcome :~)) Anytime :~) Lesley :~)

Lesley you are fantastic - thank you will sort through this lot now! - calls for another cup of coffee! Jan

JAN ******** You are very welcome anytime :~))) Im going to make a coffee for myself aswell now lol Lesley :~)

If anybody needs somebody looking up just SHOUT I am BORED lol Lesley :~)

Thank you so much Lesley for the help you have given me just one question do you know if Eliza is the same name for Elinor? once again thank you Barbara.

BARBARA *************** You are very welcome :~) Sorry I dont know about names.... It might be worth putting a thread up in tips too find out there are lots of people on here that have lots of Name knowledge... Sorry I cant help with that one :~( Lesley :~)

Im logging off now Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley - for when you next get bored! I have my direct family as such in 1851 samuel guyler 1815 basford bleacher elizabeth wife 1818 beverlee notts george son 1839 basford mary ann dau 1841 beverlee frederick son 1847 mansfield william son 1849 ' emma dau 1851 10weeks basford living academy place basford and1861 samuel gayler 1815 elizabeth frederick william emma john son 1853 samuel son 1855 henry son 1860 I'm trying to work out which 1841 family they belong to -there are 3 Samuel's about 1811,1814 and 1815. I've listed them below. I know my Samuel is a bleacher in 1851 and the children don't match the first lot. However I reckon there should be a Samuel(1815), Elizabeth(1818), George (1839) and possibly Mary Ann (1840/1). THe 2nd and 3rd family seem to be a mixture with a Samuel, Elizabeth and Mary in the 2nd( George missing), and a Samuel and George( Elizabeth missing) in the 3rd. Could you possibly trace these in 1851/61 to see if it helps to sort them out. I did think that perhaps they were all one family - ie parents at one address and grandparents at the other, but that doesn't make sense with a Samuel 1814 at one and Samuel 1815 at the other - am I right in thinking they don't list the relationships in 1841? 1841 all 3 samuel guyler 1811 warper pheobe 1811 matilda 1831 sarah 1834 mary 1839 william 1836 john brandreth lodger 1786 living chaffe st basford __ john 1791 f w k sarah 1781 samuel 1814 elizabeth 1819 ann 1820 mary 1840 living beggailee creasley ------ samuel 1770 ag lab ann 1765 samuel 1815 bleacher thomas 1821 george 1839 living back lane basford Thanks v much Jan

Me again Lesley your not loopy i am i am so sorry but i gave you the wrong wifes name for Robert Stephenson B1773 Snaith her name was Elinor not ann would you mind looking again for me please Elinor was b 1779 Scotland.i was thinking of my gg gran. Thank you again loopy Barbara.

Hi loopy Lesley, Could you please check the 1841 census for a Philip Barnard br 1800c in Essex?, I Know he had a son William br 1826, but don't know his wifes name. William went on to marry Hannah Goodwin in 1854, Feb 5th, and Philip is mentioned as father to William, that wedding took place at All Saints, West Ham. Any details ref Philip Barnard and family in the 1841 census would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks Ben. Forgot to mention that William was born in Writtle Essex. B.

Hi Im open for look ups now Lesley :~)

JAN ******** I will do yours when I have a spare hour or two lol Yes you are right they didn't list relationship in 1841 which is such a shame and makes it harder now researching :~( Lesley :~)

BARBARA *************** I have looked again in 1841 for Elinor and nothing showing... I left first name blank and just put Stephenson..... Female....b:1779 +/- 5yrs Scotland and the only one showing is Hellen that I gave you yesterday... I looked on Image and it does look like Hellen. Lesley :~)

BANANA BEN ******************* This is off 1841 I dont know if this lady is his mother or Grandmother as in 1841 it does not state the relationship...if it is his mother then she would have been 55 when she gave birth to him...possible I suppose... ADDRESS: Just says Green . Writtle Essex Elizabeth Barnard abt 1771 Essex, England >>>William Barnard abt 1826 Essex, England OCC: Groom. Source information: HO107/326/13 Registration district: Chelmsford Sub-registration district: Writtle ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 11 Page: 16 Line number: 18 GSU Number: 241365 No sign of Philip anywhere in 1841 Sorry :~( Lesley :~)

JAN ********* This is the first on the list from 1841 you have 1851 ADDRESS:Pepper street. Basford Nottinghamshire Samuel Guyler abt 1807 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Head OCC: Warper. Phebe Guyler abt 1808 Kimberley, Nottinghamshire, England Wife OCC:Lace Mender. Sarah Guyler abt 1833 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter OCC:Lace Mender. William Guyler abt 1836 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Son OCC:Lace Maker. Mary Guyler abt 1839 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter OCC:Lace Drawer. Source information: HO107/2127 Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Basford ED, institution, or vessel: 3g Folio: 292 Page: 42 Household schedule number: 165 GSU Number: 87757 *************************************************************************** Same family in 1861 ADDRESS: Pepper street. Basford Nottinghamshire Samuel Guyler abt 1810 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Head OCC; Warper. Pheobe Guyler abt 1809 Kimberley, Nottinghamshire, England Wife OCC;Lace Mender. Sarah Guyler abt 1834 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter OCC:Lace Mender. William Guyler abt 1836 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Son OCC:Lace Maker. Mary Guyler abt 1839 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter OCC:Lace Maker. Wallace Guyler abt 1852 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Son Scholar. Source information: RG9/2439 Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Basford ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 68 Page: 16 Household schedule number: 83 GSU Number: 542971 *************************************************************************** Lesley :~)

JAN ******** I think This is the second family on your list Not your Samuel though as Wife is different and Children dont tally.. 1851 ADDRESS:Beggalee Village. .Greasley Nottinghamshire >>>John Guilor (Mar) abt 1787 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Head Sarah Guilor (Mar) abt 1779 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Sarah Guilor abt 1842 Granddaughter >>>Samuel Guilor (Mar) abt 1814 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Son Luizer Guilor (Mar) abt 1821 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Sarah Guilor abt 1841 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Mary Guilor abt 1843 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter John Guilor abt 1845 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Son Ann Guilor abt 1847 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter William Guilor abt 1850 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Son Source information: HO107/2125 Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Greasley ED, institution, or vessel: 5f Folio: 277 Page: 29 Household schedule number: 113 GSU Number: 87755 *************************************************************************** 1861 ADDRESS:Newthorpe. Greasley Nottinghamshire >>>John Guyler (Wid) abt 1786 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Head OCC; ...? Frameworker ...? >>>Samuel Guyler abt 1814 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Son OCC: Coal Miner. Lucy Guyler abt 1821 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Sons Wife Mary Guyler abt 1843 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Granddaughter OCC:Seamer of Hose. John Guyler abt 1845 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Grandson OCC: Coal Miner. Ann Guyler abt 1848 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Granddaughter OCC: Cotton Hose seamer. William Guyler abt 1850 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Grandson OCC: Coal Miner. Joseph Guyler abt 1853 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Grandson Scholar. Elizabeth Guyler abt 1856 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Granddaughter Scholar. George Guyler abt 1860 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Grandson Source information: RG9/2433 Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Greasley ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 16 Page: 26 Household schedule number: 152 GSU Number: 542970 *************************************************************************** I cant find the last family you have.... Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley, Many thanks for checking the 1841 census for me, bit of a mystery that one. Ben.

ANNE ********* I cant find Seth with a William in 41 or 51 I did open search on surname for different spellin of Holden and cant find them together. I can't find William Snr in any census's either...under Holden / Holding / Holder etc I am still looking for you but it doesnt look hopeful :~( Lesley :~)

Thank you very much Lesley - I know you like a challenge. Just to clarify, is the family in 1851 with all the Sarah's one family living in the same place? there seem to be two Sarah grandchildren- not sure what the arrow marks mean Thanks Jan

JAN ******* Yes each census I give is everybody in the household..I put them in Age order to make it easier for people to understand. I then seperate each house by doing this as below ************************************************************************ I put the >>> to highlight people refered to in message.... So John & Samuel are the same ones you gave in 1841 together If you look at the order I have put them in that is how they are on the image so I am Assuming that Sarah (No2) is John & Sarah's Grandaughter from a different child not one of Samuels children as they are all under Samuel and his Wife.... Hope this makes sence if not let me know :~) Lesley :~)