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CAROLINE & LIZ I have got to go out shopping promised my daughter I wont be long then I will do your look ups as soon as I am back Hope you dont mind Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley I wonder if you could solve another mystery for me, I have a family group from the 1851 and 61 census as follows: 1851 samuel guyler 1815 basford bleacher elizabeth wife 1818 beverlee notts george son 1839 basford mary ann dau 1841 beverlee frederick son 1847 mansfield william son 1849 ' emma dau 1851 10weeks basford living academy place basford, Notts 1861 samuel gayler 1815 - note wrong spelling elizabeth frederick william emma john son 1853 samuel son 1855 henry son 1860 what I would like to know is where samuel and elizabeth are in 1871 - are there 2 additional children - Camelia Beatrice and Mary E. If Camelia does not belong here, who is her father and mother Thank you Jan

GOOD MORNING I am so sorry I didnt come back on yesterday my daughter downloaded something new on PC and sent everything Mad including me lol I Think It is sorted now but If I suddenly go without saying im logging off then its gone daft again.. Lesley :~)

HI Right it is fixed again lol I am lucky to still have this pc it nearly went through the window a few times.... Right im on for an hour then my daughter wants her pc back.... Lesley :~)

CAROLINE *************** Sorry its been so long since replying but pc broke... This is the closest to birth yr for William Scrivens in 1851 ADDRESS: Church Lane. Forthampton Gloucestershire John Scrivens abt 1813 Corse, Gloucestershire, England Head OCC: Ag Lab. Martha Scrivens abt 1825 Chaceley, Worcestershire, England Wife Alfred Scrivens abt 1847 Eldersfield, Worcestershire, England Son Charlott Scrivens abt 1848 Forthampton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter >>>William Scrivens abt 1850 Forthampton, Gloucestershire, England Son Source information: HO107/1974 Registration district: Tewkesbury Sub-registration district: Deerhurst ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 112 Page: 17 Household schedule number: 63 GSU Number: 87375 **************************************************************************** 1861 for Same Family ADDRESS: Bishops Walk. Forthampton Gloucestershire John Scrivens abt 1821 Eldersfield, Worcestershire, England Head OCC: Ag Lab. Martha Scrivens abt 1826 Chaceley, Worcestershire, England Wife >>>William Scrivens abt 1850 Forthampton, Gloucestershire, England Son OCC: Ag Lab. Henry Scrivens abt 1852 Forthampton, Gloucestershire, England Son Sarah Anne Scrivens abt 1858 Forthampton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Thomas Edward Scrivens abt 1860 Forthampton, Gloucestershire, England Son Source information: RG9/1804 Registration district: Tewkesbury Sub-registration district: Deerhurst ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 39 Page: 9 Household schedule number: 50 GSU Number: 542871 ************************************************************************* Will go and look for His Wife Martha Now Lesley :~)

CAROLINE ************** 1861 for Martha ADDRESS: Rock Cottages. Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire Joseph Gough abt 1827 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Head OCC: BlackSmith. Mary A Gough abt 1825 Gloucestershire, England Wife Sarah A Gough abt 1849 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Henry Gough abt 1851 Gloucestershire, England Son Harriet Gough abt 1853 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Daughter >>>Martha Gough abt 1855 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Alice Gough abt 1858 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Kate E Gough abt 1860 age 5 Months. Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Source information: RG9/1757 Registration district: Westbury On Severn Sub-registration district: Huntley ED, institution, or vessel: 3c Folio: 35 Page: 3 Household schedule number: 19 GSU Number: 542863 ************************************************************************** Martha's Parents in 1871 ADDRESS:No street Given. Churcham Gloucestershire Joseph Gough abt 1827 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Head OCC: BlackSmith Mary Ann Gough abt 1825 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Wife Alice Gough abt 1859 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Kate E Gough abt 1861 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Alfred Gough abt 1864 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Son Source information: RG10/2605 Registration district: Westbury On Severn Sub-registration district: Huntley ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 61 Page: 1 Household schedule number: 1 GSU Number: 835279 *************************************************************************** Hope these help And Again I am sorry it took a couple of days.... Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley Please could you look on the 1901 for Crosby/Crosbie White born 1864 Liverpool Thanks in advance Pam

LIZ ********* I am so sorry it took me so long to reply but as I said on previous Messages I have had MAJOR probs with Pc and not able to get on anything I have found Henry in 1851..all Different info from 1861 as usual lol ADDRESS: Upper Holland Street. Kensington Middlesex >>>Henry Rouse abt 1823 Farnham, Buckinghamshire, England Head OCC: Corn Dealer. Harriet Rouse abt 1824 Hammersmith Wife Jesse Rouse abt 1850 age 6 Months. Kensington Daughter Source information: HO107/1468 Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Kensington Town ED, institution, or vessel: 6a Folio: 297 Page: 18 Household schedule number: 97 GSU Number: 87790-87791 *************************************************************************** Here is one of the daughters Birth info for Mothers Maiden name if you get the cert Name: Mary Ann Rouse Year of Registration: 1853 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Kensington County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1a Page: 47 **************************************************************************** Hope this helps Lesley :~)

DAVID ********** I am sorry I not replied earlier had Major probs with pc and unable to get on anything for couple of days Here is 1871 ADDRESS:Greasley Nottinghamshire >>>Elizabeth Gaylor (Widow) abt 1820 Beaminster, Nottinghamshire, England Head HouseKeeper. John Gaylor abt 1853 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Son OCC: Colier. Samuel Gaylor abt 1855 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Son OCC;Colier. Henry Gaylor abt 1860 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Son OCC:Colier. Augustus Gaylor abt 1864 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Son Scholar. Elizabetha Tomlinson abt 1871 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Granddaughter Source information: RG10/3478 Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Greasley ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 40 Page: 49 Household schedule number: 305 GSU Number: 839428 *************************************************************************** Sorry I cant find Samuels Death :~( ************************************************************************** Sorry But I cant find any sign of Camelia Beatrice anywhere.... Lesley :~)

DAVID *********** 1881 Elizabeth (Samuels Widow) has Re-Married.. ADDRESS: Newthorpe Main Road Side. Greasley Nottinghamshire Mussonl Gordon abt 1830 Ketton, Rutland, England Head OCC:Tailor >>>Elizabeth Gordon abt 1820 Newthorpe, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Angustus W. Guyler (Un-Mar) abt 1864 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Step Son OCC:Coal Miner. Elizabeth A. Tomlinson abt 1871 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Granddaughter Source information: RG11/3322 Registration district: Basford Sub registration district: Greasley ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 26 Page: 20 GSU Number: 1341792 *************************************************************************** Hope this helps :~) Lesley :~)

Thanks Lesley Did you have to go through all the differerent name spellings? - well done! It's meant to be Guyler, they spelt it Gayler in 1861 and now Gaylor!!! But the wife and children are right - didn't know about Augustus! This really is fantastic. I'm just trying to decide along with another lady on GR if the Mary, who is an older sibling of this lot, is her Mary who married Thomas Tomlinson - we had just about decided everything fitted - when you come along and confirm it for us with Elizabetha Tomlinson granddaughter (who is the right age too) - Wow I'll have to go and have a cup of coffee!!! Thanks very much Jan

PAM ********* Hi This is the only Crosbie / Crosby in 1901 Liverpool ADDRESS: 48 Claudia Street. Walton on the Hill Lancashire James Kelly abt 1850 Ireland Head OCC:Marine FireMan.(Seas) Elizabeth Kelly abt 1851 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Richard Kelly (Single)abt 1873 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son OCC:Marine FireMan.(Seas) Sarah A Kelly (Single) abt 1880 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Elizabeth Kelly (Single) abt 1882 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter OCC;Diamond Watch Works. Mary A Kelly abt 1891 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Granddaughter James Kelly abt 1893 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Grandson >>>Crosbie White (Single) abt 1872 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Cousin OCC:Labourer ...? Works Source information: RG13/3454 Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Walton ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Folio: 129 Page: 25 Household schedule number: 139 *************************************************************************** Hope this Helps Lesley :~)

DAVID & JAN ***************** Sorry Jan I didnt read your Name at the bottom :~( Im glad to be able to confirm things for you.... you regularly find surnames and first names mis-spelt you have to be careful with it.... Have a coffee and have one for me aswell please... :~) If you ever need anything else you only have to ask and I will do my best to help.. Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley Thanks that must be him with a first name like Crosbie. Typical he's unmarried. Oh well maybe l can find a marriage. Thanks for your help it's most appreciated Kind regards pam

IGGY ********* yes I am glad to be back aswell I had withdrawal syptoms for 3 days it wasnt funny :~((( lol I cant find James or Harriett in 1861 But I THINK? this might be John there are only 2 John's in 1861 other one still at home got different Parents so this must be yours. ADDRESS: No.58 Wood Street. Tipton Staffordshire Maris Parker abt 1826 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Head OCC: ?? Cant read it sorry. Eliza Parker abt 1827 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Wife Martha Parker abt 1852 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Daughter >>>John Brown abt 1859 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Visitor Source information: RG9/2042 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Tipton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 99 Page: 38 Household schedule number: 194 GSU Number: 542908 ************************************************************************** Sorry Couldnt help any more :~( Lesley :~)

Hello Lesley Could you please check on the 1901 census for Margaret born Shrewsbury c1869 and Ann Brown c 1876 they were living in Pickins Court, Shrewsbury in 1891 with their father Thomas born c1830 in Ireland. Sorry Lesley it should be Mary c1878 not Margaret. Thank you Jackie

JACKIE *********** I have just tried searching for your Browns But I cant even find them togethert on 1891 as you said.... I cant find a Thoms B:c1830 Ireland in Shropshire 1891 ?? Can you give me the reference numbers off 1891 just so i can have a look and check..... Ok I will try again I have just seen your update re:Margaret. Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley Will find the 1891 and come back to you have written one ref but think its the 1881 RG11/2649/59 17 will have a look for 91 one. Thank you Jackie

JACKIE ************* Its ok you dont need to find the 1891 I will look on 1881 :~) Thanxs anyway Lesley :~)

JACKIE *********** Im sorry I have looked all over for Thomas Mary and Ann and I cant find any of them in 1901.... I am assuming Mary & Ann Married but with a Surname so Common (No offence Intended) I will never be able to find them.... If you have any other info It might help.... Sorry :~((( Lesley :~)