On the London Electoral roll for 1920, on Ancestry, at 76b Villas Road, Woolwich, there's Thomas John WINCELO.
He doesn't come up when I search for him by name on the ER.
This will be the death record:
Deaths Dec 1920 (>99%) WINCLES Thomas J 60 Greenwich 1d 993
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Following on from that possibility -
??? Births Dec 1863 (>99%) WINCLES Thomas John Eastry 2a 721
Doesn't seem to come up on GRO site.
??? Thomas John Wincles in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Thomas John Wincles Gender: Male Baptism Date: 22 Nov 1863 Baptism Place: Knowlton, Kent, England Father: Thomas Wincles Mother: Emma FHL Film Number: 1786622 Reference ID: item 6 p 11
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Eastry would be the right registration district for a birth in Sandwich, looking very good.
EDIT, think you've probably cracked it as I was typing the sentence above, AG!
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Hmmm - different birthplace ??
John Windes [ Wincles on image ] in the 1871 England Census Name: John Windes Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: 1864 Relation: Son Gender: Male Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 158 Piece: 554 Folio: 119 Page number: 26 Household Members Age Relationship Thomas Windes 44 Head - Custom House Officer Emma Windes 34 Wife - Birchington, Kent John Windes 7 Son Maria Windes 5 Daughter - Stepney
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???
Freebmd has a possible marriage for
Thomas Claringbold Windes Emma Maria Holttum
Marriages Jun 1861 Eastry 2a 1037
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Thank you. I also think the death in 1920 looks promising. Regarding Doris Vernon I have her Birth Marriage and Death certificate.
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WINCLES, SELINA MARY mmn HOLTTUM GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 207
Selina M. Winsell in the 1881 England Census Name: Selina M. Winsell Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relationship to Head: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where Born: Hackney, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Nonington County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address: Easole St Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Domestic House Work Registration District: Eastry ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: Piece: 996 Folio: 22 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age John Holttum 71 Myra M. Holttum 73 Selina M. Winsell 18 Sarah A. Holton 76
Selina is also with the Holttum grandparents in 1871.
Selma M Knowles in the 1891 England Census Name: Selma M Knowles Gender: Female Age: 25 Relationship: Wife Birth Year: 1866 Spouse: Harry Knowles Child: Doris N Knowles Birth Place: Hackney, London, England Civil parish: Battersea Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Residence Place: Battersea, London, England Registration district: Wandsworth Sub registration district: East Battersea ED, Institution or Vessel: 37 Neighbors: Piece: 427 Folio: 62 Household Members Age Relationship Harry Knowles 28 Head Selma M Knowles 25 Wife Doris N Knowles 12 Months Daughter Emma M Knowles 50 Mother [Mother-in-law on image ]
Selina M Knowles in the 1901 England Census Name: Selina M Knowles [Selina M Winkle] Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: Harry Knowles Mother: Emma M Winkle Birth Place: Hackney, London, England Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine County/Island: London Country: England Registration District: Lambeth Sub-registration District: Brixton ED, institution, or vessel: 44 Neighbors: Piece: 431 Folio: 58 Page Number: 46 Household Schedule Number: 349 Household Members: Name Age Harry Knowles 38 Selina M Knowles 37 Dorie N Knowles 11 Henry G Knowles 9 Alice M Knowles 7 George E Knowles 4 Edith M Knowles 2 Emma M Winkle 60 - mother-in-law, Margate (just beside Birchington, her POB on other censuses)
Selina Winsell in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936 Name: Selina Winsell Gender: Female Marriage Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1865 Marriage Date: 12 Dec 1886 Marriage Place: St Mary Magdalene, Southwark, Southwark, England Father: Thomas Winsell Spouse: Harry Knowles Register Type: Parish Register
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Birth of John's sister Maria in the 1871 census posted earlier:
WINCLES, MYRA MARIA mmn HOLTTUM GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 567
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Following on from AG,
Freereg has baptism of Emma Maria Holtum at Birchington All Saints on 8th May 1836.
Parents are John Holtum, a tailor, and wife with forenames Moira Matilda.
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Thank you I will take a look at these Pam
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To round it off -
Thomas John Wincels in the Web: UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014 Name: Thomas John Wincels Register Type: Burial Death Date: 10 Nov 1920 Burial or Cremation Date: 15 Nov 1920 Burial or Cremation Place: Greenwich, London, England
ER for 1918:
Thomas John Wincelo in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Thomas John Wincelo Electoral Date: 1918 Street Address: 76b Yard [ 76b Villas Road on image ] Ward or Division/Constituency: Stoke Newington and Woolwich County or Borough: Hackney, England
And 1920 (don't know why it didn't come up before, when searching by his name earlier)
Thomas John Wincelo in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Thomas John Wincelo Electoral Date: 1920 Street Address: 76b I2 [ 76b Villas Road on image ] Ward or Division/Constituency: Woolwich County or Borough: Newham, England
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