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30 Oct 2020 21:21 |
Hi, I am trying to find ancestors of my father in laws grandmother Alice Maud Sanders nee Styles, all I know is she was born in Portsea Island, Hampshire. her family disowned her when she was older. She was born in 1876. Any information would be received with thanks.
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30 Oct 2020 22:07 |
Mother was a White:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: STYLES, ALICE MAUD WHITE GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 464
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30 Oct 2020 22:09 |
Marriages Dec 1867 STYLES George Portsea 2b 836 White Elizabeth Portsea 2b 836
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30 Oct 2020 22:10 |
Name: Alice Maud Styles Event Type: Census Event Date: 1881 Event Place: Portsea, Hampshire, England Registration District: Portsea Island Gender: Female Age: 4 Marital Status: Single Marital Status (Original): Single Occupation: Gunners Daughter Birth Year (Estimated): 1877 Birthplace: Southsea, Hampshire, England Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Page Number: 10 Registration Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 1162/140 Affiliate Record Type: Household Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1881/4307346/00285&parentid=GBC/1881/0005610752
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace George Styles Head M 37 Merrow, Surrey, England Gunner R M Artillery Elizabeth Styles Wife F 33 New Forest, Hampshire, England George James Styles Son M 13 Southsea, Hampshire, England Charles Styles Son M 10 Southsea, Hampshire, England Alice Maud Styles Daughter F 4 Southsea, Hampshire, England Emily Jane Styles Daughter F 0 Southsea, Hampshire, England
Line Number: 12 GS Film Number: 101774537 Digital Folder Number: 101774537 Image Number: 00285
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30 Oct 2020 22:12 |
Name: George Styles Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Event Place: Portsea, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Portsea, Hampshire, England Sub-District: Landport Enumeration District: 53 Gender: Male Age: 27 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Gunner R M A Birth Year (Estimated): 1844 Birthplace: Merrow, Surrey Relationship to Head of Household: Head Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1871/1148/0109
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace George Styles Head M 27 Merrow, Surrey Elizabeth Styles Wife F 23 Lyndhurst, Hampshire George J Styles Son M 2 Southsea, Hampshire Charles Styles Son M 0 Southsea, Hampshire
Household ID: 329 Entry Number: 9 GS Film Number: 000827789 Digital Folder Number: 004318163 Image Number: 00318 Indexing Project (Batch) Number: N04176-6
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30 Oct 2020 22:13 |
George with parents:
Name: George Styles Event Type: Census Event Date: 1851 Event Place: Holy Trinity Guild., Surrey, England Registration District: Guildford Residence Note: Lyons Gateway Gender: Male Age: 7 Occupation: Scholar Birth Year (Estimated): 1844 Birthplace: Merrow, Surry Relationship to Head of Household: Son Page Number: 42 Registration Number: HO107 Piece/Folio: 1594 / 559 Affiliate Record Type: Household Affiliate Image Identifier: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1851/4294913/01094&parentid=GBC/1851/0005322802
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace James Styles Head M 36 Clandon, Surry Eliza Styles Wife F 31 Kinkford, Sussex George Styles Son M 7 Merrow, Surry James Styles Son M 3 Stoke, Surry Henry Styles Son M 1 Stoke, Surry
Household ID: 1094444 Line Number: 3 GS Film Number: 101795879 Digital Folder Number: 101795879 Image Number: 01094
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30 Oct 2020 22:19 |
Elizabeth?
Name: Elizabeth White Event Type: Census Event Date: 1861 Event Place: Alverstoke, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): St Johns Forton, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England County: Hampshire Parish: Alverstoke Ecclesiastical Parish: St Johns Forton Registration District: Alverstoke Residence Note: Pound Lane Gender: Female Age: 13 Marital Status: Single Birth Year (Estimated): 1848 Birthplace: Lyndhurst, Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Daughter Page Number: 14 Registration Number: RG09 Piece/Folio: 646 / 67 Affiliate Record Type: Household Affiliate Image Identifier: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1861/0646/00796A&parentid=GBC/1861/0004153564
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace George White Head M 32 Lyndhurst, Jane White Wife F 35 Lyndhurst, Charles White Son M 16 Lyndhurst, Elizabeth White Daughter F 13 Lyndhurst, Mary W W White Daughter F 9 Guernsey, Jane White Daughter F 6 Southampton, George White Son M 4 South Stoneham, Alice C J C J White Daughter F 1 Twyford,
Household ID: 902670 Line Number: 9 GS Film Number: 101816411 Digital Folder Number: 101816411 Image Number: 00234
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30 Oct 2020 22:48 |
Hampshire, Portsmouth Baptisms
First name(s) Alice Maud Last name Styles Birth year - Baptism year 1885 Baptism date 24 May 1885 Baptism place Milton Dedication St James Denomination Anglican Residence 21 Exmouter Road Father's first name(s) George Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth County Hampshire Country England Register type Baptisms Register year range 1871-1886 Archive reference CHU 47/1A/3 Page 84 Archive Portsmouth History Centre
Image - 21 Exmouth Road. Father a Labourer
Also baptised same day - Emily Jane Styles
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30 Oct 2020 22:56 |
Hampshire, Portsmouth Marriages
First name(s) George Last name Styles Age 24 Birth year 1843 Denomination Anglican Marital status Bachelor Occupation Gunner Residence H M S Warrier Marriage year 1867 Marriage date 25 Dec 1867 Marriage place Portsea, St Mary Dedication St Mary Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Spouse's last name White Spouse's age 19 Spouse's birth year 1848 Spouse's marital status Spinster Spouse's residence Oxford St Father's first name(s) James Father's last name Styles Father's occupation Baker Spouse's father's first name(s) George Spouse's father's last name White Spouse's father's occupation Laborer Witness 1 Jane White Witness 2 George White County Hampshire Country England Register type Marriages Register year range 1867-1868 Archive reference CHU 3/1D/67 Archive Portsmouth History Centre
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30 Oct 2020 23:40 |
Wait a minute! Alice Maud Styles born in 1876 married Edward Cooke and died as Alice M Cooke.
Name: Alice Maud Cooke Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 Event Place: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom County: Hampshire Parish: Portsmouth Sub-District: Kingston And East Southsea Sub-District Number: 2 District Number: 90 Enumeration District: 10 Registration District: Portsmouth Gender: Female Age: 34 Marital Status: Married Marital Status (Original): MARRIED Number in Family: 6 Birth Year (Estimated): 1877 Birthplace: Eastney Portsmouth Relationship to Head of Household: Wife Schedule Type: 291 Page Number: 1 Registration Number: RG14 Piece/Folio: 581 Affiliate Record Identifier: GBC/1911/RG14/05531/0581/2
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Edward Cooke Head M 38 Dalston London, London Alice Maud Cooke Wife F 34 Eastney Portsmouth Edward George Cooke Son M 14 Southsea Portsmouth Walter Charles Cooke Son M 12 Southsea Portsmouth Ernest Frederick Cooke Son M 10 Southsea Portsmouth Gladys Maud Cooke Daughter F 8 Southsea Portsmouth Lilian May Cooke Daughter F 5 Southsea Portsmouth
Record Type: Household Line Number: 2
Deaths Mar 1953 COOKE Alice M 76 Portsmouth 6b 572
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31 Oct 2020 06:05 |
She was still with Edward in 1939
31 Rochester Road, Portsmouth, Portsmouth C.B., Hampshire, England
Edward Cooke 04 Jan 1873 Male Pensioner Railway ? Married 70 1 Alice M Cooke 26 Sep 1876 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 70 2 Ieren B Booth (Cooke) 16 Sep 1915 Female Shorthand Typist ? Single 70 3 Ref: RG101/2274B/004/26 Letter Code: EBJZ © Findmypast Ltd
Births Dec 1915 Cooke Irene B Styles Portsmouth 2b 671
No ref to sanders
Death sept 1949 Cooke Edward 76 Portsmouth 6b 365
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31 Oct 2020 07:20 |
If I'm correct, this is your father in law's mother:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: SANDERS, BESSIE HILLS GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 382
MMN is Hills.
This looks to be her in 1911:
Name: Bessie Sanders Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 Event Place: East Buckland, Devon, England, United Kingdom County: Devonshire Parish: East Buckland Sub-District: South Molton Sub-District Number: 2 District Number: 283 Enumeration District: 7 Registration District: South Molton Gender: Female Age: 4 Number in Family: 4 Birth Year (Estimated): 1907 Birthplace: Charles, Devonshire Relationship to Head of Household: Niece Schedule Type: 16 Page Number: 1 Registration Number: RG14
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace George Hill Head M 36 North Molton, Devonshire Ellen Hill Wife F 44 Charles, Devonshire Lucy Hill Sister F 17 South Molton, Devonshire Bessie Sanders Niece F 4 Charles, Devonshire
George appears to have married Ellen Crocker Sanders. It's unclear whether Bessie is from his side of the family or Ellens.
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31 Oct 2020 09:35 |
There's this but it's not clear how this related to Bessie:
Name: George Henry Sanders Event Type: Marriage Notice Event Date: 25 Sep 1896 Event Place: Exeter, Devon, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Exeter, Devon, England Event Place Note: 113-9133 Gender: Male Spouse's Name: Alice Maud Mary Stiles Spouse's Gender: Female Newspaper: Western Times Page Number: 5 Publication Date: 25 Sep 1896 Affiliate Record Type: Marriage
Other information in the record of George Henry Sanders Name: George Henry Sanders Event Type: Marriage Notice Event Date: 25 Sep 1896 Event Place: Exeter, Devon, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Exeter, Devon, England Event Place Note: 113-9133 Gender: Male Spouse's Name: Alice Maud Mary Stiles Spouse's Gender: Female Newspaper: Western Times Page Number: 5 Publication Date: 25 Sep 1896 Affiliate Record Type: Marriage
Digital Folder Number: 102117898 Image Number: 00228
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31 Oct 2020 10:13 |
Edward
Which of your father-in-law’s parents had Alice for a mother?
When and where was that person born?
When and where did Alice die?
What research have you done yourself?
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31 Oct 2020 10:22 |
Arthur R Gill, MMN Sanders
Mansell Gill m. Bessie Sanders. JFM 1929
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31 Oct 2020 11:03 |
Someone has compiled a WikiTree, but there are no certificates for Bessie.
Edward needs to get her marriage certificate and work back from there. There are several Hill/Sanders marriages in South Molton.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Sanders-15205
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31 Oct 2020 11:41 |
Mansell Gill is in the poster’s GR tree
1939
Tossells Barton, South Molton, South Molton R.D., Devon, England Mansell Gill 28 Nov 1898 Male Farmer Married 13 1 Bessie Gill 23 Dec 1906 Female Household Duties Married 13 2 The record for this person is officially closed. Wilfred J Gill 25 Oct 1931 Male At School Single 13 4
First name(s) BESSIE Last name GILL Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1907 Age 56 Death quarter 4 Death year 1963 District Barnstaple
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31 Oct 2020 13:42 |
Name: George Hill Death Date: 8 Mar 1940 Death Place: Devon, England Probate Date: 23 May 1940 Probate Registry: London, England
Probate to Bessie (wife of Mansell Gill)
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31 Oct 2020 13:46 |
Edward has Alice in his GR tree - it would be interesting to see who he has as her husband
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31 Oct 2020 13:54 |
Ellen Crocker (Hill) before her marriage to George 1871 Name: George Saunders Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: 1835 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Selworthy Devon England Civil Parish: Charles County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration District: South Molton Sub-registration District: South Molton ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household Schedule Number: 11 Piece: 2181 Folio: 65 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age George Saunders 36 Maria Saunders 35 Maria Saunders 7 Ellen C Saunders 6 George H Saunders 1
Name: Maria Crocker Registration Year: 1856 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: South Molton Inferred County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 787 Maria Crocker George Sanders
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