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John Trueman
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Trueman
Registration Year: 1862
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Belper
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 266


John's burial:

John Truman
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1991
Name: John Truman
Age: 24
Birth Year: 1838
Burial Date: 30 Apr 1862
Burial Place: South Wingfield, Derbyshire, England



Possibly the same man with some mistranscription of dates??

John Trueman
in the Web: UK, Coal Mining Accidents and Deaths Index, 1878-1935
Name: John Trueman
Death Age: 24
Event Type: Death
Birth Year: abt 1838
Death Date: 1 May 1862
Death Place: Belper, Derby, England
Occupation: Miner
Colliery: Whitemoor
Owner: John Knowles
Notes: Falling part way down the shaft

???

BARKER, SARAH mms HICKINBOTTOM
GRO Reference: 1838 M Quarter in BELPER UNION Volume 19 Page 318

Harriet Scott
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1916

Name: Harriet Scott
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 20 Feb 1867
Baptism Place: Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England
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Father: Thomas Scott
Mother: Sarah Scott

From image - d/o Thomas and Sarah Scott who lived at Clay Cross. Thomas a Collier

FMP version of the 1861 posted by AG

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
South Wingfield, Belper, Derbyshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Sophia Human Head Widow Female 55 1806 Framework Knitter Cotton -
John Human Son Unmarried Male 23 1838 Coal Miner -
Sarah Human Daughter Unmarried Female 23 1838 Domestic Servant Derby, England
Sophia Human's Census Details

Sophia and John b South Wingfield, Sarah - Green Hill Lane
Details taken from the original census record.

What can I say to all you kind people trying to help me besides sorry I jumped to the wrong conclusion when I saw that a Harriett Hickling married a Thomas Hatton near to where my grandfather was born I really do appreciate being pointed in the right direction. Regards Theresa

You're welcome, Theresa.


Sarah's parents' marriage :

John Barker
England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1537-1918
Name: John Barker
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 01 May 1837
Event Place: Alfreton, Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Mary Higginbottom
Spouse's Gender: Female



Sarah with father and siblings in 1851:

Sarah Barker
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Barker
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Claycross, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Ashover
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County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
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Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Ashover
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 40
Piece: 2147
Folio: 29
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Arin Brockson 80
Mary Brockson 57
John Barker 43 - widower, lodger, "cole miner", Summer Coats
Sarah Barker 13
Joseph Barker 10
Elizabeth Barker 8


Her mother's death ????

BARKER, MARY 30
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 19 Page 307



Mary Barker
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1991
Name: Mary Barker
Age: 31
Birth Year: 1814
Burial Date: 8 Dec 1845
Burial Place: North Wingfield, Derbyshire, England
Abode: Woodthorpe



Sarah's sister's marriage:

Elizabeth Barker
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Elizabeth Barker
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 19
Birth Date: 1843
Marriage Date: 14 Sep 1862
Marriage Place: North Wingfield, Derbyshire, England
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Father: John Barker
Spouse: Thomas Spencer , miner

sorry I'm getting confused i thought that her maiden name was Scott

Harriet's maiden name was Scott.

Her mother was Sarah Barker, who married John Trueman, then was later with Thomas Scott, but apparently not married to him.

Posting Harriet's birth again:

SCOTT, HARRIET mms BARKER
GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 518

It's slightly confusing because Thomas and Sarah's children William and Myra Scott have been listed with mms Trueman, rather than Barker.

Myra's birth posted by GG on 16 July at 16:12.

William's birth:

SCOTT, WILL mms TRUEMAN
GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in CHESTERFIELD IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 602

ok thanks