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So the woman's name was never Hickling.........................

Harriett Hickling married Thomas Hatton who where my Great Grandparents Im trying to find out more about Harriett

theresa
now i am confused
if nathan was your relative his mmn was scott
why do you think it was hickling ?

Nathan's parents' marriage - no doubt already posted, but worth reiterating

Marriages Mar 1886 (>99%)
HATTON Thomas Chesterfield 7b 785
SCOTT Harriet Chesterfield 7b 785

here is harriett hicking
Harriet
Last name Hickling
Name note -
Age 46 ------------------ born c 1835
Marriage year 1881
Marriage date 01 Feb 1881
Marriage place Derby
Father's first name(s) Charles
Father's last name Chinery -----------------------------
Spouse's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's last name Hatton
Spouse's age 57
Spouse's birth year 1824
Spouse's birth date 1824
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's father's last name Hatton
County Derbyshire
Country England

so certainly nothing to do with nathan

EDIT: Now I see already posted by Maddie.]


The Scott/Hatton marriage again -

Thomas Hatton
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Thomas Hatton
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Birth Date: 1863
Marriage Date: 8 Mar 1886
Marriage Place: North Wingfield,Derby,England
Father: William Hatton
Spouse: Harriet Scott [ father: Thomas Scott ]
FHL Film Number: 1041095

On the Banns record, Thomas Scott was a painter & glazier.

Witnesses to the marriage were Henry & Eliza Jarvis

i posted her death in bashford

Apologies if already posted.

Harriett Scott
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Harriett Scott
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 7 Corporation Oaks
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Genl Servant Domestic
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub registration district: St Ann
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors:
Piece: 3354
Folio: 123
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
George B. Irwin 31
Eliza Irwin 30
Harriett Scott 17

I expect Theresa has found the same death as you Malyon, but as you put that it showed her birth year as 1885 then that has confused her.

so the one i posted marriage 1881 was a widow and must be the one born 1835

1881 posted at the same time as your last post, Erika.

The woman named Hickling is a total red herring and has no connection whatsoever to the family being researched

deleted my post, in view of yours, AG

Malyon, I posted a census for the 1881 marriage, showing it was not the couple that Theresa was looking for.

???

SCOTT, HARRIET mms BARKER
GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 518


EDIT:

I think the birth above is the right one, but the couple below are NOT her parents, i my opinion
- see later posts. Her mother was Sarah Barker, then Trueman, then Scott (unmarried).



Marriages Mar 1856 (>99%)
Barken Jane Basford 7b 152
Barker Jane Basford 7b 152
Scott Thomas Basford 7b 152


EDIT:

Hmmm - maybe not, unless Thomas had radically changed his occupation by the time Harriet married. He's a collier in 1856:

Thomas Scott
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Thomas Scott (collier)
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1830
Marriage Date: 23 Mar 1856
Marriage Place: Heanor, Derbyshire, England
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Father: George Scott (collier)
Spouse: Jane Barker ( Father: Joseph Barker, collier)

????
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, Claylane or Claycross, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Scott Head Married Male 59 1832 Coal Miner Somercotes, Derbyshire, England
Sarah Scott Wife Married Female 54 1837 - Somercotes, Derbyshire, England
Peter Scott Son Single Male 20 1871 Coal Miner Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England
William Scott Son Single Male 16 1875 Coal Miner Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England
Myra Scott Daughter Single Female 14 1877 - Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
SCOTT, MYRA TRUEMAN
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 609

BUT ??

SCOTT, PETER BALL BARKER
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in CHESTERFIELD IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 541

???

Sarah said to be a wIdow on original

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hays Yard, Clay Cross, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Sarah Trueman Head - Female 35 1836 - Derbyshire, England
Mary Trueman Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Derbyshire, England
Harriett Trueman Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Derbyshire, England
Peter Trueman Son - Male 0 1871 - Derbyshire, England

FMP have messed up the transcript -

Thomas born Somercotes, Derbys and Sarah born Green Hill Lane, Derbys

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Black Horse YD, Eyre Street, Claylane Aka Claycross, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Scott Head Married Male 49 1832 General Labourer Disley, Cheshire, England
Sarah Scott Wife Married Female 44 1837 - Disley, Cheshire, England
Peter Scott Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England
William Scott Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England
Myra Scott Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England

Re the Peter Scott birth in 1870 -

???

TRUMAN, MARY mms BARKER
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in BELPER Volume 07B Page 468

And Harriet Scott (mms Barker) already posted.


???
Marriages Dec 1858 (>99%)
Barker Sarah Belper 7b 764
Truman John Belper 7b 764


Sarah Barker
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Sarah Barker
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Birth Date: 1837
Marriage Date: 1 Dec 1858
Marriage Place: Belper, Derbyshire, England
Father: John Barker
Spouse: John Truman [ Father: Truman Truman ]
FHL Film Number: 2082647
Reference ID: item 7 p 20


but another version:

Sarah Barker
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Sarah Barker
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1837
Marriage Date: 1 Dec 1858
Marriage Place: Belper, Christ Church, Derbyshire, England
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Father: John Barker, miner
Spouse: John Truman, miner [ Father: RICHARD Truman , nail maker ]

1861 mistranscribed on Ancestry:

John Furman
in the 1861 England Census
Name: John Furman
[John Truman]
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: 1838
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Sophia Furman
Gender: Male
Where born: South Wingfield, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: South Wingfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Belper
Sub-registration district: Ripley
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 152
Piece: 2513
Folio: 93
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Sophia Furman 55
John Furman 23
Sarah Furman 23 - daughter-in-law, Green Hill Lane